My "Embedded Age" Challenge

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You're seeing shadows, is what you're seeing.

You would probably look at Adam and conclude he was about 20 or 30 years old.

Then, having done so, conclude "logically" that the earth is at least 20 or 30 years old as well.

After all, if Adam is 20 or 30, then the earth has to be at least that old as well; else where did he live all those years?

And, of course, your "logic" would be leading you to the wrong conclusion.
Adam can take a hike, I'm talking about the embedded age explained in the OP.
 
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Adam can take a hike, I'm talking about the embedded age explained in the OP.
Adam is the best example I can come up with to explain maturity without history.

If you can think of a better one, I'll listen.
 
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But you say it is 6,000 years old. How is that not a young earth advocate?
You left a word out, didn't you?

And unless my memory evades me, I've called you on it before, haven't I?

The earth is 6000 years old existentially.

I'd tell you to stick to science and leave the theology to the big boys, but that would be like telling you to stick to the wolves.
 
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It's your confusion ... not mine.

The earth is as old as it is, but it has only been around for 6019 years.

If you think the Earth was created just a few thousand years ago, you are a YEC. The rest is obfuscation.
 
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Bottom line, a 6019 year old earth that shows to be 4.54 Ga and a full geological and biological history points to a deceiving God.
Then your 'full geological and biological history' is flawed.
 
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How many times have I said I'm not a YEC?
Each time you are lying about your position.

YEC -- Young Earth Creationist.
Let's start at the C: creationists believe the earth was created. Since you believe that the Earth was created the C fits.
E -- earth. Creationists emphasize earth creation, with all the fauna and flora. The rest of the Universe (99.9999999999% of all matter) is only mentioned as a footnote.
In this thread, and many others, earth creation, Adams' creation and all animals and plant creation are central to your position the E fits.
Y -- young. Creationists come in different flavours -- mainly OEC (Old Earth Creationists) and YEC (Young Earth Creationists). Yec's believe that the creation happened 6020 years ago. Since that is what you believe the Y fits.

So we see that the Y, the E and the C suit you. A YEC you are, a YEC you will be called.
 
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God still blesses this country, no matter what scientists think.
And he especially blesses the scientists, not just from our country but from all around the world. Why? Because it is they who examine and present the unchangeable evidence left by Gods creation.
 
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E -- earth. Creationists emphasize earth creation, with all the fauna and flora.
Not this creationist.

Many times I emphasize the earth only at the end of Day One of the creation week, before Day Two.

Especially if I'm dealing with someone trying to factor in plate tectonics, the sun and other things.

Even the land doesn't exist yet.

And for the record, I call it Terra Aqua to distinguish it from Terra Firma (which, as I said, doesn't exist yet).
 
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But you are. You are also an ape and a homo sapien.

Definitions mean something.
Watch one poster here, who gets irritated when someone puts A in lieu of I (except after C), not say a word about your post.
 
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