My Bad Seed Challenge

[AV1611VET]

This classic scene is from a classic movie called The Bad Seed:

The explanation for her behavior is as follows:

In the midst of the revelations about Rhoda, Christine's vague suspicions about having been adopted are confirmed: she is the biological daughter of a notorious and infamous serial killer, Bessie Denker, and was adopted at two years of age by her foster father and his late wife. Christine now worries that Bessie (and therefore Christine herself) is the cause of Rhoda's sociopathy, and that her homicidal behavior is genetic, not subject to influence, let alone reversal, by parenting or a wholesome environment.

SOURCE

What kind of evolution is this?

 

[Gene2memE]

Its not any kind of evolution.

Its speculation within a work of fiction. That's not how heredity works.

 

[Nithavela]

Individuals don't evolve.

Come on, this is Gottservant class. You can do better.

 

[Hoghead1]

What on earth does this have to do with anything? Granted, there was and is considerable debate as to the origins of homicidal behavior and others as well. Are they genetic or learned? I believe that they are learned. But I don't see what that has to do with evolution. Suppose they are inherited. I am still puzzled how you would see this as related to the question of evolution. I am aware, however, that some have argued that the tendency to murder and also rape are inherited, as these are adaptive ways of keeping down the population. Also, Wikipedia is a good place to look for a quick read, but that's it. For example, if any of my students used Wikipedia for any other purpose, I would [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] off from their paper. No serious scholar accepts Wikipedia as a final word on anything.

 

[DogmaHunter]

What kind of evolution is this?

EBMS:

The Evolution of the Bad Movie Script.

 

[Loudmouth]

What kind of evolution is this?

What kind of creationism is it?

 

[AV1611VET]

What kind of creationism is it?

I would label that as the model of deistic creation, where God creates a primordial atom, then retreats into the background and lets nature do its thing.

I'm not sure what the evolution is in the video in the OP.

My guess is that it is what they call either "social Darwinism," or a form of "Lamarckism."

That's why I called this thread a "challenge."

You can't get an educatee to speak up and answer it.

Seven posts and it hasn't been answered yet.

 

[Loudmouth]

I would label that as the model of deistic creation, where God creates a primordial atom, then retreats into the background and lets nature do its thing.

But you believe in recent special creation, so how does that explain it?

 

[AV1611VET]

But you believe in recent special creation, so how does that explain it?

By the existence of something that resides in our flesh that evolutionists wouldn't understand.

Something I don't care to get into here.

 

[Loudmouth]

By the existence of something that resides in our flesh that evolutionists wouldn't understand.

Something I don't care to get into here.

So much for the challenge.

 

[AV1611VET]

So much for the challenge.

Like just about every other challenge, it won't get answered without putting it through a series of vents and ridicules first.

Even then, it probably won't get answered.

My guess is that it was a form of Lamarckism that got swept under the carpet and forgotten.

 

[Loudmouth]

Like just about every other challenge, it won't get answered without putting it through a series of vents and ridicules first.

Is that your plan? Ridicule a bunch of people before answering the challenge?

My guess is that it was a form of Lamarckism that got swept under the carpet and forgotten.

It wasn't because of creationism?

 

[AV1611VET]

It wasn't because of creationism?

Nope -- just found it.

It's called "heredity."

QV please:

For several decades, beginning in 1874, a family dubbed the Jukeses with more than its fair share of paupers, criminals and assorted rascals was extensively studied and photographed in an attempt to show that antisocial traits were genetic.

SOURCE

Today's science at its best.

 

[Loudmouth]

Nope -- just found it.

It's called "heredity."

Inheritance of what?

 

[Belk]

Nope -- just found it.

It's called "heredity."

QV please:

SOURCE

Today's science at its best.

You might of missed this but it is not the 19th century.

 

[Hieronymus]

I would label that as the model of deistic creation, where God creates a primordial atom, then retreats into the background and lets nature do its thing.

But nature doesn't have a "thing" to do, it just follows the laws of nature, which are dead unconscious things.
Life has to be given for something to live, and 'vessels' have to be made to facilitate / carry it in a physical reality.

 

[SkyWriting]

What on earth does this have to do with anything? Granted, there was and is considerable debate as to the origins of homicidal behavior and others as well. Are they genetic or learned? I believe that they are learned. But I don't see what that has to do with evolution. Suppose they are inherited. I am still puzzled how you would see this as related to the question of evolution. I am aware, however, that some have argued that the tendency to murder and also rape are inherited, as these are adaptive ways of keeping down the population.

No person has ever claimed such behaviors are a way of keeping down the population.
Ever.

The OP is a valid question.

 

[HitchSlap]

This classic scene is from a classic movie called The Bad Seed:

The explanation for her behavior is as follows:

SOURCE

What kind of evolution is this?

Natural/sexual selection by non-randoms means.

 

[SkyWriting]

Natural/sexual selection by non-randoms means.

I would certainly consider that homicidal traits might be passed on through genetics.
Insanity is rarely taught.

 

[AV1611VET]

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