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If it was created there must have been a creator, so it wasn´t created ex nihilo. Ex nihilo creation is an oxymoron.

Whatever - since the premise of your question is that you were right there is no way to prove that you would be wrong.

Your point being?
If I'm right, you're right.

Creatio ex nihilo does not generate evidence.
 
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So, because there is no evidence for your claims, then you must be right. Correct?
Right about what? that creatio ex nihilo occurred?

I'd be right if I believed it, whether there was evidence or not.

And for the record, the more evidence against it, the greater my faith.

Isn't faith described as 'believing something, even when all evidence says otherwise'?

You may not respect my science, but surely you respect my faith?
What if there is contradictory evidence?
The more the better.

Let's see it, so I can handwave it away on principle.
 
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I'd be right if I believed it, whether there was evidence or not.

And for the record, the more evidence against it, the greater my faith.

Isn't faith described as 'believing something, even when all evidence says otherwise'?

Isn't that very close to the definition of insanity?



The more the better.

Let's see it, so I can handwave it away on principle.
I have nothing to add to this statement. :thumbsup:
 
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Are you finally admitting that we do not have "faith" in evolution?
I'm out to lunch on that.

Some like to say it takes more faith to believe in evolution (or that God doesn't exist), than it does not to believe.

Personally, I think that's a cheap shot that doesn't warrant reducing to a mantra.

I think [most of] you guys really see things and believe it, but in my opinion, you're all brainwashed by higher academia.

And that's just my opinion.
 
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I wouldn't doubt it -- 588
Ah yes, the Rorschach test story. I knew what you were referencing before I saw it. But seriously, what is the difference between your definition of "faith," and the common definition of insanity?

I'm out to lunch on that.

Some like to say it takes more faith to believe in evolution (or that God doesn't exist), than it does not to believe.

Personally, I think that's a cheap shot that doesn't warrant reducing to a mantra.

I think [most of] you guys really see things and believe it, but in my opinion, you're all brainwashed by higher academia.

And that's just my opinion.

Well, OK. Maybe we are making some progress here then? Except for the brainwashing part, LOL.
 
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But seriously, what is the difference between your definition of "faith," and the common definition of insanity?
Who knows?

Even Jesus' friends thought He was 'insane'.

Mark 3:21 And when his friends heard of it, they went out to lay hold on him: for they said, He is beside himself.

This included even His mother and His step-brothers:

Mark 3:31 ¶ There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.

Unbelievers today make the same mistake.
 
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If you wanted to bump the thread, you could have at least addressed my question.

However, I've become used to the fact that whenever you are faced with something that you can't deal with, you pretend it doesn't exist rather than face the prospect that you are simply mistaken.
 
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This may be the most worthless thread I've ever read, and I've read some Chan threads. Wow.

Now thank me for my contribution.
Thank you for your contribution.

(Not really. :))
 
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