My Apple Challenge II

[AV1611VET]

I present to you an apple that was created ex nihilo.

How can you refuse to accept that --- without being wrong?

 

[Nitron]

I present to you an apple that was created ex nihilo.

How can you refuse to accept that --- without being wrong?

Any old fart can take an apple and say he magically poofed it. What makes yours different?

 

[arnoldedward]

What is the point of starting an arguement where anyone who answers either agrees with you or is wrong?

 

[trivista]

I present to you an apple that was created ex nihilo.

How can you refuse to accept that --- without being wrong?

The fact that Steve Jobs didn't sue is proof that Apple made it.

 

[Cabal]

If the apple flat-out WAS created ex nihilo, you would be wrong to reject it.

If you did, it would be out of lack of trust in / being unconvinced by the person who apparently created it.

 

[Lazuline]

I ask you a contrived question designed to support my opinions and disregard any response other than the one I expect to hear.

How can you answer my question without it being a complete waste of time?

 

[ReverendDG]

I present to you an apple that was created ex nihilo.

How can you refuse to accept that --- without being wrong?

i can refuse, you can't create an apple ex nihilo, so i wouldn't be wrong
god can but you are saying you can,but thats impossible so its a pointless question

 

[Tammisto]

If this hypothetical apple was in fact created ex nihilo, and it in no disernable way difers from an apple which grew on a tree, then people not accepting this claim would be wrong indeed, BUT anyone who would accept such a baseless claim would allso be a gullible fool. So basicaly its a loose/loose situation

 

[Nathan45]

I present to you an apple that was created ex nihilo.

How can you refuse to accept that --- without being wrong?

If the apple was created ex-nihilo, and i denied that it was created ex-nihilo, i would be wrong.

The question is pointless, because you do not actually possess an apple created ex-nihilo, and i do not believe that apples are ever created ex-nihilo.

Similarly, Jesus wasn't born from a virgin and never rose from the dead. But do you agree that I have about as much reason to believe this as i do to believe an assertion that you possess an ex-nihilo-created apple?

John 8:43-47

43Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot accept my word.

44You are from your father the devil, and you choose to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

45But because I tell the truth, you do not believe me.

46Which of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe me?

47Whoever is from God hears the words of God. The reason you do not hear them is that you are not from God.’

 

[Deadbolt]

No! Dear god no! Not again~!
This is just diseased. It's like trying to argue particle physics with a clown intent on delivering Costello-esque punchlines.

 

[Grizzly]

This is the famous apple challenge?

Yes, if you truly created an apple ex nihlio, and if I refused to believe it, I would be wrong.

But we can say this about anything. For example.

If I proved that God did not exist, how can you refuse to accept it without being wrong?

 

[Tomk80]

But would the apple show history, like I don't know, the earth and the universe?

 

[JGL53]

I present to you an apple that was created ex nihilo.

How can you refuse to accept that --- without being wrong?

This question assumes the presence of a "nihilo".

Prove it, i.e., give me an example of a "nihilo". And thought experiments in your head don't count.

 

[TheBear]

I present to you an apple that was created ex nihilo.

And I present to you, gold coins that were given to me by leprechauns.

How can you refuse to accept that --- without being wrong?

You first.

 

[[serious]]

I present to you an apple that was created ex nihilo.

How can you refuse to accept that --- without being wrong?

I take it examine it, and present it as an apple that came from a tree.

How can you refuse to accept that --- without being wrong?

 

[thaumaturgy]

I present to you an apple that was created ex nihilo.

How can you refuse to accept that --- without being wrong?

I take your apple, and assuming it's a Granny Smith (the only good type of apple) I eat it and while doing so ask you why you think it's been created ex nihilo.

I then take the core and jam it so hard into your computer keyboard (focusing on the "A", "C" and "M" keys) that you are rendered unable to generate more apple challenges.

 

[AV1611VET]

If the apple flat-out WAS created ex nihilo, you would be wrong to reject it.

If you did, it would be out of lack of trust in / being unconvinced by the person who apparently created it.

CORE - RECT! Netflix has over --- oh, wait --- sorry --- wrong commercial!

Good job, Cabal --- check ur reps ---

 

[AV1611VET]

No! Dear god no! Not again~!
This is just diseased. It's like trying to argue particle physics with a clown intent on delivering Costello-esque punchlines.

LOL ---

 

[AV1611VET]

This is the famous apple challenge?

No --- this is my [famous] Apple Challenge.

 

[TheBear]

No! Dear god no! Not again~!
This is just diseased. It's like trying to argue particle physics with a clown intent on delivering Costello-esque punchlines.

But AV wants to come out and play with us. Let him have his fun.