[MOVED FROM ETHICS & MORALITY] Can/should Christians be pro-(sinful behavior)?

[Steeno7]

R W Glenn - The Doctrine of Propitiation - Kinetic Typography

Truth!!

 

[Water Cross]

It seems like many Christians tend to be for some sinful behaviors but against others. Is this okay or should it be an all or nothing kind of thing?

Do you know that in all the Bible there are 667 sins noted? But there are only 613 laws of God.

If you take that into account you might realize that the proposition of living a sin free life is impossible. While the idea of Jesus dying so as to take the sins of the world upon himself insures that doesn't matter.

 

[DiligentlySeekingGod]

Do you know that in all the Bible there are 667 sins noted? But there are only 613 laws of God.

If you take that into account you might realize that the proposition of living a sin free life is impossible. While the idea of Jesus dying so as to take the sins of the world upon himself insures that doesn't matter.

I must misunderstand you, what do you mean that Jesus dying to take the sins of the world upon Himself doesn't matter?

 

[DiligentlySeekingGod]

No comment from Water Cross?!

 

[ErnestoPoet]

It is not always the case, but dwelling on just this attribute of God may lead one into a state of compromise and comfortableness in their sin.



That He does, yet one must first accept Jesus as their Lord and Saviour. If they do not feel the need of a Saviour, they will not be moved to accept Him as the one for them. There is no other way to the Father except through Jesus--therefore one must believe upon Him for forgiveness of sins. The possible problem which might arise if one were to go about proclaiming just the love of God and that is it, is that one may then get the impression that God loves everyone just the way they are, which is completely unbiblical.

God does not exist with sin, it is what separates us from Him. When He comes again, it will be to bring His wrath upon the world--something which is not a pleasant thing to talk about and may make people feel uncomfortable. Yet we must not fall into the Satanic trap of only bringing up things which are pleasant and sound agreeable to people. We must not be ashamed of the Gospel message, and the Gospel of Jesus Christ is that He shed His blood for sinners by His sacrifice on the cross so that those who believe upon Him will have eternal communion with God. Yet if one is not grafted into Christ, their eternal communion with God will be an eternal consuming fire, for that is what God is to those who are not dead to sin and alive only in Him.

The Gospel may sound harsh to some people, it may not be something they want to hear (though once God has given them sight, they will realize it is the best message in the world, the only good news). Yet it is not our job to talk to people of only what they want to hear, but to proclaim the Biblical truth--and to proclaim all of it, not just the nice sounding parts. It is not of our own work anyway which brings people to God, but God that does the work. We don't have to make up a contrived gospel message because we think it might bring more people to God. We must preach what is written in the Bible because that is the only thing which will bring people to God and it is done only by power of God.

I would disagree, but only me, so does St Paul. Roms 13.8. We are called to love God and others. The reality is that most don't understand the nature of love (Christ being with us) vs the cultural definition of love (unconditional acceptance). When we ignore love, we warp (sin). By the way, science is finding this very truth. Kids ignored and unloved become monsters. When we follow God, Father, son and Holy Spirit, we are fundamentally changed by the process.

Second, sin is something that we can be pro, but as we continue following, more of our sin is revealed to us. Sanctification is the process by which more our sin becomes reveal to us and the power of Jesus continues to work on us. On God's wrath, that is what the cross is for. It has been taken care of. God is with us and we must be aware of the presence of the Holy Spirit.

 

[RDKirk]

There is a saying: "Christ takes you as you are, but He does not leave you as you are."