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You'll have to ask them
Please tell me that you weren't just being snarky...
I think you should ask Jesus yourself. Don't accept a burning busom, ask for a sign from God.Please tell me that you weren't just being snarky...
Aren't you going to answer the OP?
I think you should ask Jesus yourself. Don't accept a burning busom, ask for a sign from God.
Can you tell us about this?
Read it again. Here is what Jesus says: " Truly, I say to you, among those born of women there has arisen no one greater than John the Baptist. Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he."
The key is that there is somebody who is LEAST in Heaven. There are ranks in heaven. The least in heaven is greater than the greatest on earth, but there are greater and lesser in heaven. That's what that text tells us.
Which means that everybody in heaven is not equal. There are the greater in heaven, and there are the lesser in heaven. Just as there are greater and lesser angels, there are (or will be) greater and lesser humans. Which means that everybody isn't equal in Heaven, and we know that for a fact because Jesus said so.
Discussion on your "saves" thread leads me to think Celestial Marraige was practiced during the time of the Saivor's mortal ministry.
Thank you for your keen observation; John's lesser status must be of his own choosing not to get married.
... In order to obtain the highest degree of the Celestial Kingdom, marriage must be in place first. And that marriage must happen in this life. Jesus taught us in Matt 22:30 (see also Mark 12:25)
“For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven”
This is expanded a bit in Luke 20:34-35
“And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage: But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:”
From these teachings we know that marriage is a work that must be accomplished in this life. Marriage will not be performed on resurrected beings.
However, we also know from latter-day teachings that those who are worthy and willing, but do not have the chance for marriage, will not be deprived of exaltation. ... http://askgramps.org/will-single-sisters-able-marry-celestial-kingdom/
John's assignment means Celestial Marriage was available during his lifetime and he choose to remain single. All, with rare exception, will ultimately enjoy a glorious eternal life!
Celestial Marriage was apparently being performed in the Temples during Christ's ministry. Thank you again for adding to my understanding.
The bolded is absolutely false. Consider Matthew 19:11-12 regarding eunuchs.
11 Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word [whether or not it is good to marry in verses 1-10], but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”
Eunuchs generally do/did not marry and cannot or choose not to reproduce. Yet Jesus said it is acceptable. So it is a false statement that marriage "must be accomplished in this life".
So eunuchs are denied the highest level of the celestial kingdom, even if they choose to live as a eunuch "for the sake of the kingdom of heaven" and they have Jesus' approval? That's weird.Eunuchs never marry,
so it doesn't apply to them.
No. I think the Holy Spirit wants you to start looking at what is the truth and getting away from that other stuff.So you're using Jesus to cover up for your behavior?
You're asking about something that you yourself should know the theology hasn't answered yet.
So eunuchs are denied the highest level of the celestial kingdom, even if they choose to live as a eunuch "for the sake of the kingdom of heaven" and they have Jesus' approval? That's weird.
Even more weird is the fact that, by your rules, Jesus isnt even eligible to be there either, since he was not married.
No. I think the Holy Spirit wants you to start looking at what is the truth and getting away from that other stuff.
So eunuchs are denied the highest level of the celestial kingdom, even if they choose to live as a eunuch "for the sake of the kingdom of heaven" and they have Jesus' approval? That's weird.
Even more weird is the fact that, by your rules, Jesus isnt even eligible to be there either, since he was not married.
You are correct and scripture does in fact prove mormon error because it plainly states that Jesus was called "invited" to the wedding as His mother and others......
John 2 :
1 And the third day, was there a marriage in Cana a town of Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there.
2 And Jesus was called also, and his disciples unto the marriage.
3 Now when the wine failed, the mother of Jesus said unto him, They have no wine.
Come on now, when he said Jesus wasn't married, that is not your true theology. You believe that Jesus had three wives.What he was trying to say was "Those who do not marry through no fault of their own will not have it counted against them."