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Michael Rood and the Rood Awakening

Discussion in 'Messianic Judaism' started by Zeek, Jan 7, 2013.

  1. Zeek

    Zeek Follower of Messiah, Israel advocate and Zionist

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    Hi all,

    I have a friend who has fallen head over heels in love with this guys teachings and has shown me several videos which at first seem interesting and have some depth to the information and teaching.

    I am a bit pushed for time in looking into this so thought you might be able to fast-track a few help and hints....I have a slight uneasiness in my spirit, but don't want to be too hyper-critical.

    The 3 things that sort of stuck in my craw concerned:-

    1. Apparent translations of Matthew that were hidden in Russia and thrown new light onto some difficult passages as they are in original Hebrew...connected with Shem Tov in the 1400's.

    2. He seems to be a fan of the discredited Ron Wyatt

    3. Has invented his own time-scale and says even the Jewish calendar is not the true one, therefore working out prophetic sign-posts is inaccurate.

    My experience as a Believer sees warning lights flashing, and as I said, my spirit is uneasy....but I love my friends enthusiasm and am reluctant to express just yet why I am reluctant to embrace these teachings as a whole.

    Thanks for any help...apols if this has come up before.

    Zazal
     
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  2. visionary

    visionary Your God is my God... Ruth said, so say I. Supporter

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    Michael Rood promotes himself as a "messianic karaite rabbi"... "The Reverend Michael John Rood ", "Rabbi", "Rabbi Michael Rood" or "Messianic rabbi (teacher) Michael Rood", "Messianic Kairite Rabbi" (he and Judith joined the Kairite movement, which rejects the NT and Yeshua as the Messiah), "Messianic Jewish Rabbi, " “honorary mohel”, Torah Observant" Messianic or Jewish Messianic (he was not born Jewish), a "Levite" (he's not of the levitical priesthood), living as a levite, Baptist minister (he was not), a former Baptist minister , a rabbi, "I am a Jewish follower of the Jewish Messiah", Gentile, "Christian teacher", prophet...Bible teacher, marine sergeant, author, lecturer, and professional Bible instructor for more than thirty years... all the above names were over time....... as he shifted from position to position.. audience to audience..

    This is one case where I am going to let Easy give you more than enough reasons to have an uneasy spirit about his teachings... which are of the replacement Two House/Lost Tribes/Ephraim theology type.. depending upon audience...

    As to the aspect of refuting... you will just have to find out what your friend is hearing, so you know where to begin. May I suggest not refuting your friend's hero, but agree with what you can and lead in study more on the straight path and let him determine the off trail stuff himself... thus weaning himself from this convoluted material.
     
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  3. pat34lee

    pat34lee Messianic

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    One of the things you will find out on this board is that anything deemed 2 house is discredited in many eyes here before they hear anything else. They have a faulty notion that 2 house and replacement theology are the same, despite abundant proof to the contrary.

    Michael Rood has a lot of good information, and geared to teach those new to the messianic movement. My main problems with him today began with the Matthew book also. He became affiliated with Nehemiah Gordon and Keith Johnson, who now have written several books alone and together.

    Michael Rood has several teachings against the false doctrines of Judaism and the church. Nehemiah Gordon, an orthodox turned karaite rabbi, no longer follows rabbinic tradition, but does not believe in Yeshua (Jesus) and Keith Johnson is a Methodist minister with no plans to leave the church system.

    As for the Jewish calendar, we know it is off because it was written without means of updating it over the years, and the rabbis would not touch it. Whether Rood's is more accurate, only time will tell. As the biblical year was intended to begin with a visual sign (barley in abib) instead of a calculated date, his should be more accurate as to which month is the first if they differ.
     
  4. Steve Petersen

    Steve Petersen Senior Veteran

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  5. Qnts2

    Qnts2 New Member

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    Michael Rood like James Trimm were members of The Way international, and carry forward some of the false teachings of this cultic group.

    While I have mentioned Rood and Trimm, both claim to be Jewish but are not Jewish.

    Rood in particular, predicted that the 'day of the Lord' would begin in the year 2000. false.

    Rood again predicted 2001, since he said he recalculated and found the Hebrew calendar in error by 1 year. Again false.

    He then found that the New Year was not Rosh Hashanah but on Nissan 1, so he predicted the day of the Lord was actually 6 months later then his second prediction. Again false.

    And then he predicted the 'day of the Lord' to be in October of 2002.
    And then he predicted the 'day of the Lord' to be October 2003.

    Rood renounced Christianity as pagan and of the devil, and anyone who is a part of Christianity is in the house of satan.

    Two house is a grave error, but that is one of the lessor of Roods problems.
     
  6. Lulav

    Lulav Messianic Maven Supporter

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    Sounds like a man who presents himself to be " all things to all men"
     
  7. yedida

    yedida Ruth Messianic, joining Israel, Na'aseh v'nishma!

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    Best advice: Listen to your own spirit. And gently lead your friend to someone else to get as excited about. Feel free to PM and I'll be happy to pass along a few suggestions.
    I agree with your assessment of Rood. A bad meal that's gonna come back up eventually.
     
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  8. Zeek

    Zeek Follower of Messiah, Israel advocate and Zionist

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    Thanks for the replies...it confirms what I suspected, I appreciate your help 'chaverim'...and the bits of friendly advice.
     
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    Before listening to the negative things written here about Michael Rood I would take a little more time to listen to what he has to say. I think you will be blessed. You spirit feeling uneasy is not a true indicator of if something is right or wrong. The things Michael Rood teaches are life changing as they require a change. I went from Sunday worship to keeping Sabbath, etc but it has been such a gift to be able to follow Yehovah more closely. I just don't want you to miss out on the incredible blessings I have found and it started with a few videos from Michael Rood almost 15 years ago.
     
  10. Steve Petersen

    Steve Petersen Senior Veteran

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    Welcome. Who don't you introduce yourself. Tell us about your journey.
     
  11. Gxg (G²)

    Gxg (G²) Pilgrim/Monastic on the Road to God (Psalm 84:1-7) CF Ambassador

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  12. Zeek

    Zeek Follower of Messiah, Israel advocate and Zionist

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    Hi, good to meet you.

    Don't worry, I never just look at the negative in anything, and I always check things over again and again, it is just a time factor thing and for a weekof two I don't have the time to root throught MR's teachings, but my friend is very persistant and lies to share what he is being blessed with, so putting it quickly before friends here really helps cut to the chase.

    I also realise what I refer to as 'my spirit feeling uneasy' is a very subjective indicator...but it is mixed in with some years experience, and things that have set off alarm bells in the past....one of the most difficult things in these days of the Church is the incredible mixture within a group or a persons teaching that often veils a pernicious doctrine or an out-right heresy...unfortunately there is often a lack of accountability that allows these things to slip in and do considerable damage.

    I will bear everything in mind and continue to investigate over the coming weeks...thanks for your input. :thumbsup:
     
  13. breezeproject

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    I am amazed at how much non accurate infomation that has been stated about Michael Rood. For me His teachings have been life changing. Now I agree he can come off a bit abrasive at times but all his information is well studied an strictly biblical in its base. He has constantly explained how certain contradictions throughout the bible have come through miss translations. Once the research is explained it is easy to better understand what the writer was truly trying convey. He is maybe not for everybody because not everyone will be ready to make changes when he brings things to light,
     
  14. anisavta

    anisavta Never Forget!

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    How come that sounded like a commercial? :confused:
     
  15. yedida

    yedida Ruth Messianic, joining Israel, Na'aseh v'nishma!

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    it did didn't?

    I must add though, that "his" answers for misinterpretations don't seem to be voiced by other Messianic Teachers. I wonder why that is?
     
  16. Steve Petersen

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    Hey, welcome to our forum. Take some time to tell us about yourself and your journey.

    Have you met sfarley? He made his first on posts on CF right here on our forum also! You guys have something in common!
     
  17. pat34lee

    pat34lee Messianic

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    They may be worried that the truth will offend some people.
     
  18. Gxg (G²)

    Gxg (G²) Pilgrim/Monastic on the Road to God (Psalm 84:1-7) CF Ambassador

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    Don't know if you are aware of it - but there was another thread on the issue that gave some good information on the matter - as seen in the thread entitled Why do so many Messianics criticize Michael Rood?. Some have even been shocked by the fact that he chose to have a sacrifice outdoors - yet I don wonder how off it really was (more here) - and on many things, many of the same people who may have complained against him have actually supported things he has taught at some point or another.

    He used to be with "The Way International" - well known for their cult status and other things they've done...and he still works with people from there. (more shared here , here, here and here). Much of what he does with his own fellowship is considered to be a Splinter Group dynamic of Way International. He has shared his own testimony of his background - although some of the things shared seemed to be a good bit out there when seeing current actions:


    There was one time years ago where he prophesied the End of the World on a specific date and got A LOT of people unsettled - and it didn't seem right at all. And many of his actions seemed no different than things I'd hear from some of the Hebrew Roots cults I unfortunately encountered/lost family and friends to back in 08 - as the man (not surprisingly) is very dogmatic and has made attempt to reinforce his teachings to his supporters with extremely strong warnings that to depart from them would be to "deny God" or such.


    For more, one can go online/investigate the article entitled What the Heck, Michael Rood? | Messianic Jewish Musings - and the others would be Learn to be a Prophet in Jerusalem! | - Rosh Pina Project and Haredim and the Bible | - Rosh Pina Project. Additionally:


    The videos/info I was able to find on him:
    When he made his prophecies of the world ending back in May of 2011, we discussed in service t the subject of deception and those who may fall into the errors of believing that the Messiah will come/telling others when.....and we prayed for Brother Michael on the issue since he has supported this. Some of what he offers is akin to what occurred with Y2K and many of the "End Times" teachers that were on T.V. (i.e Hal Lindsey, Jack Van Imp, etc) who would say that the Lord was coming back on certain dates---and then having to backtrack when it didn't happen. It's unfortunate to see since it comes off as if one's a conspiracy theorist that strings together things without seeing if they even should connect. For the people who may get into alarms/try to buy supplies and give up their jobs (as many did in the 70/s when thinking the Lord would return), it will be very unfortunate.

    Some of the things he does are a bit eccentric - such as his dress - and I think it's why many get thrown off by him, in addition to other things. But his dress would be the last thing I'd worry on him about. More shared on that before in previous discussion


     
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  19. Gxg (G²)

    Gxg (G²) Pilgrim/Monastic on the Road to God (Psalm 84:1-7) CF Ambassador

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    Very much the same thing as many do in addition to saying that in the name of being Messianic while also claiming that anyone who is a Christian is automatically "Anti-God's Law/Torah" and hateful of God's people. It's a shame to see what the man has done...for he is deeply decieved - despite the fact that he has many nice things to say - and I do hope he'll be able to come out of it.
     
  20. yedida

    yedida Ruth Messianic, joining Israel, Na'aseh v'nishma!

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    Never mind. I missed your response to Qnts.