Makes me proud to be a Christian...

[LightHorseman]

Pastor Wiley Drake kicked off this Presidents' Day Weekend with an email blast to his supporters saying "Imprecatory Prayer is now our DUTY" and announcing a daily teleconference call to advance the cause. Drake has been an enthusiastic advocate of imprecatory prayer since he announced that God answered his call with the murder of Kansas abortion clinic doctor George Tiller in church last May. "George Tiller was far greater in his atrocities than Adolf Hitler," Drake said at the time, "so I am happy. I am glad that he is dead." This emboldened him to add "the usurper that is in the White House ... B. Hussein Obama" to the list said in his church on Sundays.Baptists Praying for Obama's Death. Again. : Dispatches from the Culture Wars ( language warning after link)

Yep, praying for God to kill people for us *clap. clap. clap* I'm so glad to have people like this on my side.

 

[Lovely Lane]

Is Drake still with the SBC ? If so, they should denounce this man and pull his credentials.

Drake is so wrong, has hate filled his heart? Guess I just don't get it.

 

[laconicstudent]

Well, I tried to find a tip form at the Secret Service's website and couldn't find one. Law enforcement should be aware of these kinds of lunatics.

 

[Yarddog]

Yep, praying for God to kill people for us *clap. clap. clap* I'm so glad to have people like this on my side.

I pray that God looks more kindly upon Mr. Drake than he does others.

 

[Lovely Lane]

Well, I tried to find a tip form at the Secret Service's website and couldn't find one. Law enforcement should be aware of these kinds of lunatics.

Not wanting to get political, this kind of speech from Drake reminds me of the 2008 elections where inflammatory speeches were used daily causing several knuckleheads to plan or actually attempt to assassinate Obama. It's crazy talk and it is dangerous.

 

[Apollo Celestio]

Culture.

 

[jellybean99]

Yep, praying for God to kill people for us *clap. clap. clap* I'm so glad to have people like this on my side.

This sounds like some kind of "Baptist Voodoo" to me. Does Pat Robertson know about this?

 

[Cabal]

You've gotta love that these people can breed.

And vote

 

[rcorlew]

UGGGGHHHHHHHH!

I find it unthinkable that anybody would fall for junk like this, sad thing is that not only can they reproduce and vote, but they hijack Christianity to promote hate.

Today we studied Ephesians 6, the Armor of God in which we are commanded to stand ready on the defensive, never on the offensive, NEVER! Undoubtedly the fight will come to us, but we should not go looking for one!

 

[Celticflower]

Maybe Mr. Drake should read "the War Prayer" by Mark Twain. It might open his eyes to the unspoken prayer that his vengeful prayers carry as well.

 

[pgp_protector]

Sounding an lot like incitement but IANAL

 

[ParanoidAndroid]

UGGGGHHHHHHHH!

I find it unthinkable that anybody would fall for junk like this, sad thing is that not only can they reproduce and vote, but they hijack Christianity to promote hate.

On another forum, someone asked me how I can in any good conscience give an opinion as to whether another person is following Christ correctly (ie, saying "they aren't real Christians"). I was told I was being judgemental for not allowing hate-filled people speak in the name of my God ("who are you to tell others they aren't practising their faith right").

This is a very good reason why I make such comments. The Bible commands that we first try to rebuke and correct someone in false teachings, but in a global society with worldwide information transmission, I'm not likely to ever get the chance to meet this guy to make such an attempt. In the absence of that ability to help correct their ways, Christians can only distance themselves from hate-speech and get the real message out there.

One day (and sadly for some, that day has already come) Christians such as CS Lewis are going to be mentioned in the same breath as people such as this guy as both equal representative of the Christian Faith - if Jesus had a grave, he'd be turning in it right now. As it is, he's twisting on his chair at the right hand of God.

 

[Macrina]

There are a lot of people out there who think of Christians as being hateful, judgmental, mean, and self-centered. Stuff like this is what perpetuates that idea, and it breaks my heart. What a disservice to the Gospel.

 

[seashale76]

Christians are supposed to pray for people and not for their destruction.

 

[jellybean99]

Would Christians here be willing to sign an online petition renouncing this Pastor's actions which would then be turned over to Homeland Security or the FBI?

 

[Lovely Lane]

Would Christians here be willing to sign an online petition renouncing this Pastor's actions which would then be turned over to Homeland Security or the FBI?

I don't believe we need to inform the FBI nor DHS, if they are doing their job, they already have a file on Drake and others. It's not just Muslim's they track, you know. Domestic terrorist of all brands are being eye-balled these day's.

Drake and others like him couldn't care less about a petition, The SBC needs to act, let's see what they do, probably nothing.

I would vote to have the NCCCusa take action in denouncing these foolish preacher's.
wwwdotncccusadotorg

 

[jellybean99]

Would Christians here be willing to sign an online petition renouncing this Pastor's actions which would then be turned over to Homeland Security or the FBI?

I don't believe we need to inform the FBI nor DHS, if they are doing their job, they already have a file on Drake and others. It's not just Muslim's they track, you know. Domestic terrorist of all brands are being eye-balled these day's.

Drake and others like him couldn't care less about a petition, The SBC needs to act, let's see what they do, probably nothing.

I would vote to have the NCCCusa take action in denouncing these foolish preacher's.
wwwdotncccusadotorg

I believe that you are correct that this church "fatwa" did not escape the notice of terrorist watchers. The primary purpose of compiling such a petition would be to declare that we as Christians renounce such actions and don't wish to be associated with this Southern Baptist brand of Christianity when Homeland Security or NATO troops starts rounding these radicals up.

Christianity is getting a bad name because no one speaks up when apostasy like this creeps in. We are called to pray for our leaders, not wish death upon them. To say nothing implies tolerance and support for domestic terrorism, which can result in an entire faith being demonized.

Remember 9/11 and Islam? "Those who fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat it." George Santayana

 

[leothelioness]

Oh, great. Another reason to be ashamed of being a Southern Baptist.

 

[Lovely Lane]

I believe that you are correct that this church "fatwa" did not escape the notice of terrorist watchers. The primary purpose of compiling such a petition would be to declare that we as Christians renounce such actions and don't wish to be associated with this Southern Baptist brand of Christianity when Homeland Security or NATO troops starts rounding these radicals up.

Christianity is getting a bad name because no one speaks up when apostasy like this creeps in. We are called to pray for our leaders, not wish death upon them. To say nothing implies tolerance and support for domestic terrorism, which can result in an entire faith being demonized.

Remember 9/11 and Islam? "Those who fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat it." George Santayana

ok,
I'm not sure what you mean about NATO troops rounding anyone up. Usually some folks speak about U.N. troops invading and setting up martial law of some sorts. But that is just Alex Jones prisonplanet speech.imo

The Christian faith has been 'demonized' for about two thousand years, and it still finds away of surviving through it's disciples.

I agree that something should be said, only that a major Christian faith body (interfaith) should speak up, as well as the SBC.

 

[Zoness]

Yeah stuff like this knocks my credibility from under my feet when talking religion with people. Good thing I am not SBC