luke the gentile

[cyberlizard]

I have seen in a number of threads the assertion that Luke, the author of Luke/Acts was a gentile, however I have never seen anyone provide a biblical basis for their claim...

anyone fancy sunstantiating their dogma from the scripture.



Steve

 

[judechild]

It certainly is not a dogma that Luke was a gentile; that is, it's not a part of Divine Revelation. But there has always be the belief that he was one. For example, one could look at the "Church History" of Eucibius which states "Loukas de to men genos on ton ap Antiocheias" (III.4.6). One can support that he was from Antioch because of his familiarity with the area in (Acts 11:19-27; 13:1; 14:18-21, 14:25, 15:22, 23, 30, 35; 18:22). He was also separated by St. Paul from the ones of "the circumcision" in Colossians 4:14.

 

[Frogster]

I read somewhere that Luke was the brother of Titus.

 

[cyberlizard]

any concrete proof....


if the argument he shows familiarity with antioch is proof then that would make paul a gentile for being born in tarsus.

the colossians 4 argument is tenuous at best.

is there any concrete proof or is it just a case of scriptural gymnastics coupled to church tradition?


Steve

 

[Frogster]

any concrete proof....


if the argument he shows familiarity with antioch is proof then that would make paul a gentile for being born in tarsus.

the colossians 4 argument is tenuous at best.

is there any concrete proof or is it just a case of scriptural gymnastics coupled to church tradition?


Steve

Just out of curiousity.Could you post scripture to show he was Jewish?Thanks.

 

[judechild]

any concrete proof....

What would you like sir? Something to the effect of "My dear gentile friend, Luke, whom we all know wrote a Book on our Lord."?

I point again to Colossians 4:10, where Paul lists "Aristarchus, who is here in prison with me, sends his greetings, and so does Mark, the cousin of Barnabas... and Jesus Justus... of those who have come over from the Circumcision, these are the only ones actually working with me for the kingdom of God". However, later, Paul goes on to say "Greetings from my dear friend Luke, the doctor, and also from Demas" (v. 14).

Please explain why you believe these are "Scriptural gymnastics", sir.

I'd like to reiterate, though, that it is not a a matter of docrine whether Luke was a gentile or not; it's just an interesting conversation, in my opinion.

 

[christianmomof3]

Actually, I think that it is questionable whether Luke is actually the author of Luke and Acts.

 

[LiturgyInDMinor]

It's all in the name: Loukas sounds darn Greek to me.


http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/1/Loukas

 

[judechild]

Christianmom,

any particular reason for that?

 

[LiturgyInDMinor]

Actually, I think that it is questionable whether Luke is actually the author of Luke and Acts.

How is this questionable now-a-days after all of the theological proof that he well is the author of both books?

 

[marlowe007]

It's all in the name: Loukas sounds darn Greek to me.


Loukas - meaning of Loukas name

There was never a man named Loukas in Greek any more than there are men named 'Californian' or 'Texan.' But as the title suggests, the guy was from Luca - which pretty much settles the question.

 

[LiturgyInDMinor]

There was never a man named Loukas in Greek any more than there are men named 'Californian' or 'Texan.' But as the title suggests, the guy was from Luca - which pretty much settles the question.

Prove it please.

 

[marlowe007]

Prove it please.

Well, I'd read one source claiming that the capital of Lucania was a place named Luca (modern day Lucca). But having just given myself a geography lesson, it's apparent that Lucania was located in southern Italy.

 

[mont974x4]

The passage in Col is pretty clear and there is n o reason to reject it. Luke was not a Jew.

 

[cyberlizard]

It's all in the name: Loukas sounds darn Greek to me.


Loukas - meaning of Loukas name

saulus and paulus sound greek to me as well (in fact both names are).



Steve

 

[cyberlizard]

i will cite this article to buttress my opinion.... and it is only that.

I've cited it rather cut and pasted as that would be theft.



Grace Points: Was Luke a Gentile?



Steve

 

[Standing Up]

Aren't there gentiles in the line of Jesus back to Abraham?

Wasn't Ruth a gentile?

Why does it matter whether Luke was or was not a gentile?

 

[Frogster]

Aren't there gentiles in the line of Jesus back to Abraham?

Wasn't Ruth a gentile?

Why does it matter whether Luke was or was not a gentile?

I agree,we should not care,nor should we try to have separatism.That is why there is no more Jew or Greek.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I agree,we should not care,nor should we try to have separatism.That is why there is no more Jew or Greek.

Luke's Gospel seems to have more in common with the Jewish Hebrew book of Revelation than either Matt, Mark or John.
Did anyone notice Luke is the only Gospel to mention the word "lake" outside of Revelation

Luke 5:1 It became yet, in the of the throng to be nearing to Him to be hearing the word of the God, and He was standing beside the Lake/limnhn <3041> Gennesaret/gennh-saret <1082>, [Matt 14:34, Mark 6:53]

Lake mentioned 11 times. 5 times in Luke [Luke 5:1,2 8:22,23,33] 6 times in Revelation

 

[Standing Up]

I agree,we should not care,nor should we try to have separatism.That is why there is no more Jew or Greek.

No, my question is sincere. I'm wondering why it matters?

As to Ruth, she was a Moabitess. Gentile.

... And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse; And Jesse begat David the king ...

The Hebrew word for generation is once again spelled as it was back in Genesis (per Perry Stone).