Loss of Salvation Question

[FreeGrace2]

I said this:
"Nope. Salvation is the gift. Just as Rom 6:23 teaches that eternal life is the gift of God."

Sorry, but the Greek does not back you up. Keep your head in the sand if you want.

Can you back up your own claim?

If Rom 6:23 doesn't teach that eternal life is a gift of God, then what does the Greek actually say?

Don't just throw out opinions. If there is evidence to support your view, it helps the discussion by sharing it.

 

[FreeGrace2]

Sorry, but only God is eternal. If one becomes cut-off from God...

Then it's clear that the phrase "eternal life" doesn't mean what it says to you. OK.

If only God is eternal, just how long do you assume you'll exist in eternity? A few years, or a few millennia?

 

[FreeGrace2]

Funny. I simply quote what the apostle John says and then you quote John alleging that John contradicts John.

I asked a question. Then I quoted what John wrote about those who SAY they have no sin; they are liars and the truth is not in them.

As to what he wrote in 3:9 and 5:18, doesn't contradict what he wrote in 1:8.

Your argument is not with me but with the apostle John.

I have no argument with John. I do take issue with anyone who misunderstands 1 John 3:9 and 5:18.

 

[EmSw]

Unlike the Neo-Circumcision, those who are born of God are not subject to fear of condemnation. Those who are sons of God have eternal security.

Why do you keep using the term 'Neo-Circumcision'? Have you not read the following -

Deuteronomy 10:16
Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.

Deuteronomy 30:6
And the Lord thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.

Jeremiah 4:4
Circumcise yourselves to the Lord, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings.

Circumcision of the heart is nothing new! In fact, it is a part of the law of Moses!

 

[FreeGrace2]

Everything is a gift from God.

That's a nice sentiment, but is there any Scripture that actually backs that up?

The question is, how to we attain eternal life?

The answer is throughout the gospel of John.
3:15,16, 5:24, 6:40, 47, 10:28 (with 10:9 being the context for who His sheep are), 1 Tim 1:16

Phil 3
. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ 9and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith— 10that I may know him and the power of his resurrection, and may share his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, 11that by any means possible I may attain the resurrection from the dead. 12Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect, but I press on to make it my own, because Christ Jesus has made me his own. 13Brothers, I do not consider that I have made it my own. But one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead, 14I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. 15Let those of us who are mature think this way, and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal that also to you.16Only let us hold true to what we have attained.

Great passage, but since the term "eternal life" doesn't occur anywhere here, how does it answer your question?

The verses I provided DO have the term "eternal life" in them.

 

[EmSw]

That's a nice sentiment, but is there any Scripture that actually backs that up?


The answer is throughout the gospel of John.
3:15,16, 5:24, 6:40, 47, 10:28 (with 10:9 being the context for who His sheep are), 1 Tim 1:16


Great passage, but since the term "eternal life" doesn't occur anywhere here, how does it answer your question?

The verses I provided DO have the term "eternal life" in them.

Do you consider the air you breathe as a gift from God? Do you consider your sight, hearing, and speech as a gift from God? Did you have to do anything to receive these things from God? What did you pay to receive your sight?

 

[FaithfulPilgrim]

This is an issue where true believers can be found on both sides.

I'm Southern Baptist, so I affirm eternal security. However, I acknowledge verse that seem to teach one can lose their salvation and I plan to read an exegetical Bible study on this area.

There are Christians who believe in conditional security. That is, your salvation is eternally secure as long as you believe. However, they believe a person can willing surrender their salvation as well.

The only real issue I have with this view is that the Scriptures seem to teach that if you fall away, there is no coming back.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

This is an issue where true believers can be found on both sides.

I'm Southern Baptist, so I affirm eternal security. However, I acknowledge verse that seem to teach one can lose their salvation and I plan to read an exegetical Bible study on this area.

There are Christians who believe in conditional security. That is, your salvation is eternally secure as long as you believe. However, they believe a person can willing surrender their salvation as well.

The only real issue I have with this view is that the Scriptures seem to teach that if you fall away, there is no coming back.

If a believer backslides into sin only, they can be forgiven. This is evident by both the "Parable of the Prodigal Son" and by James 5:19-20
(cf. 1 John 2:1, 1 John 1:9).

However, if a believer denies Jesus as their Savior after having the Holy Spirit and the gifts thereof, there is no coming back to the faith
(See Hebrews 6).


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[FaithfulPilgrim]

If a believer backslides into sin only, they can be forgiven. This is evident by both the "Parable of the Prodigal Son" and by James 5:19-20
(cf. 1 John 2:1, 1 John 1:9).

However, if a believer denies Jesus as their Savior after having the Holy Spirit and the gifts thereof, there is no coming back to the faith
(See Hebrews 6).


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Now what if someone doesn't explicitly deny Jesus, but decides they want to keep an open mind and believe that Jesus may be God, but don't affirm or deny it?

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Now what if someone doesn't explicitly deny Jesus, but decides they want to keep an open mind and believe that Jesus may be God, but don't affirm or deny it?

Not sure what you are talking about. Jesus Christ is God (i.e. Second person of the Godhead) (John 1:1-2) (1 John 5:7).

He that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come into the flesh is anti-Christ (1 John 4:3).

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[FaithfulPilgrim]

Not sure what you are talking about. Jesus Christ is God (i.e. Second person of the Godhead) (John 1:1-2) (1 John 5:7).

He that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come into the flesh is anti-Christ (1 John 4:3).

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I went through a Deist phase but I did not want to reject Jesus, so I just told myself that He could be God.

It didn't last long at all before I felt guilty and repented.

 

[FreeGrace2]

Do you consider the air you breathe as a gift from God? Do you consider your sight, hearing, and speech as a gift from God? Did you have to do anything to receive these things from God? What did you pay to receive your sight?

What I asked, and you failed to provide, is ANY evidence from Scripture of what is described as gifts of God other than:
1. salvation Eph 2:8
2. eternal life Rom 6:23
3. indwelling Holy Spirit Acts 10:45
4. spiritual gifts Rom 1:11

 

[FreeGrace2]

This is an issue where true believers can be found on both sides.

And one side is completely wrong.

I'm Southern Baptist, so I affirm eternal security. However, I acknowledge verse that seem to teach one can lose their salvation and I plan to read an exegetical Bible study on this area.

Yep. Keep studying because we must acknowledge that the Bible is not internally contradicted.

There are Christians who believe in conditional security. That is, your salvation is eternally secure as long as you believe. However, they believe a person can willing surrender their salvation as well.

But they have zero support from Scripture for such a belief.

 

[EmSw]

What I asked, and you failed to provide, is ANY evidence from Scripture of what is described as gifts of God other than:
1. salvation Eph 2:8
2. eternal life Rom 6:23
3. indwelling Holy Spirit Acts 10:45
4. spiritual gifts Rom 1:11

Is your sight a gift from God? It's an easy question. Why do you fail to answer?

 

[FreeGrace2]

Is your sight a gift from God? It's an easy question. Why do you fail to answer?

I told you clearly what the Bible describes as gifts of God. Why do you ignore that?

And why can't you provide any Scriptural evidence for your question?

btw, I personally know believers who have lost their sight. I guess you'd use that example of God's gifts that are not irrevocable. Which would be total nonsense.

The Bible does NOT describe physical sight as being a gift of God. I suggest it would be more productive to study Scripture about what are God's gifts, ALL of which are irrevocable.

Unless one can provide a verse that straight up SAYS that any gift of God can be revoked.

Paul SAID that God's gifts are irrevocable. Where is the exception? No where to be found.

So, if there were any gifts of God that are revocable, it would be incumbent upon Paul to clearly state that when he wrote 11:29.

 

[Thursday]

That's a nice sentiment, but is there any Scripture that actually backs that up?


The answer is throughout the gospel of John.
3:15,16, 5:24, 6:40, 47, 10:28 (with 10:9 being the context for who His sheep are), 1 Tim 1:16


Great passage, but since the term "eternal life" doesn't occur anywhere here, how does it answer your question?

The verses I provided DO have the term "eternal life" in them.

What do you think is meant by attaining resurrection from death?

 

[Thursday]

I told you clearly what the Bible describes as gifts of God. Why do you ignore that?

And why can't you provide any Scriptural evidence for your question?

btw, I personally know believers who have lost their sight. I guess you'd use that example of God's gifts that are not irrevocable. Which would be total nonsense.

The Bible does NOT describe physical sight as being a gift of God. I suggest it would be more productive to study Scripture about what are God's gifts, ALL of which are irrevocable.

Unless one can provide a verse that straight up SAYS that any gift of God can be revoked.

Paul SAID that God's gifts are irrevocable. Where is the exception? No where to be found.

So, if there were any gifts of God that are revocable, it would be incumbent upon Paul to clearly state that when he wrote 11:29.

Everything we have is a gift from God. I can't believe you are truly denying this.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

I went through a Deist phase but I did not want to reject Jesus, so I just told myself that He could be God.

It didn't last long at all before I felt guilty and repented.

Well, I am sorry to inform you, but your repentance was false, my friend.

Jesus said,

"I said therefore unto you, that you shall die in your sins: for if you believe not that "I AM" [he], you shall die in your sins." (John 8:24).​

The English word "he" does not appear in the Greek. So Jesus was saying that if you do not believe not that He is the "I AM" you will die in your sins.

In fact, when Jesus was talking with the Pharisees, they wanted to know how he could have been old enough to see Abraham.

Jesus replied,

"Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, ..... "I AM." (John 8:58).​

Then when the Pharisees heard this, that is when they went ape crazy and wanted to kill him.

For the Pharisees considered this to be blasphemy and picked up stones to stone him. Why did they think it was blasphemy? Because in Exodus chapter 3, God declares Himself to be the great "I AM."

And God said unto Moses,
"I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you." (Exodus 3:14).​

Also, Jesus is "God Almighty" because the Scriptures declare that He is "God" and that He is the "Almighty."

Here is a list of verses (Taken from an article) that tell us this.
(See #108 --113 for Jesus being called "God").
(See #45 for Jesus being called the "Almighty").

160 Reasons Jesus Christ is Almighty God

By Thomas Golda

Only because Jesus Christ is Almighty God do we have reassurance that He can save His elect from eternal damnation and eternal torment.

1. Jesus IS the visible image of the Invisible God - Colossians 1:15, II Corinthians 4:4...to see Jesus is to see the Invisible God - Mankind was created IN the image of God - Genesis 1:26...Jesus IS the image of God. To see Jesus is to see the Invisible God in the flesh.
2. Jesus was conceived by God - Luke 1:35, Matthew 1:20. Since Mary was his earthy mother, that makes Jesus fully human..since God was His physical Father, since Jesus did not have an earthy father, that makes Jesus fully God. He was fully man and fully God. The Great Godman.
3. To see Jesus' face is to see the glory of God - II Corinthians 4:6
4. Jesus "being in the form of God" makes Him God - Philippians 2:6
5. Jesus being the brightness of the Father's glory - Hebrews 1:3
6. Jesus is the exact image of the Father's Person - Hebrews 1:3
7. That is why to "see Jesus" is to "see the Father" - John 14:9, John 12:45
8. That is why Jesus said He and His Father are one - John 10:30
9. Jesus is IN the bosom of the Father - John 1:18. Not "on" the bosom"..not "near" the bosom...IN the bosom...He is in the center of the
Father. They are "one"
10. He is called EVERLASTING Father - Isaiah 9:6
11. Jesus deserves the SAME honour as the Father - John 5:23
12.Jesus was WORSHIPPED - Matthew 2:11, Matthew 9:12, Matthew 14:33, Matthew 28:9, Luke 24:52..Since only God is to be
worshipped - Matthew 4:10..that means Jesus is God.
13. Even angels WORSHIP Jesus - Hebrews 1:6
14. Heaven falls down before the Lamb - Revelation 5:8
15. Jesus Created ALL things - Colossians 1:16, Hebrews 1:2, John 1:3, Ephesians 3:9 ....God created all things - Acts 14:15, Isaiah
45:18, Isaiah 44:24, Isaiah 42:5. Jesus is God
16. Jesus also made the world - John 1:10. Jesus is God - Isaiah 44:18
17. Jesus created all things for HIMSELF - Colossians 1:16, Proverbs 16:4(Jesus is God)
18. By Jesus all things consist - Colossians 1:17
19. Jesus upholds all things - Hebrews 1:3
20. Jesus is before all things - Colossians 1:17
21. Jesus rules heaven and earth - Matthew 28:18. Jesus is God - II Chronicles 29:11
22. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath - Mark 2:28, Luke 6:5
23. Jesus called Himself the Great "I AM" - John 8:58, John 8:24...a quote from Exodus 3:14
24. In the body of Jesus dwells the fullness of the Godhead - Colossians 2:9
25. The Father, Son and Holy Ghost are THREE and they are ONE - I John 5:7
26. And this is all why Jesus is EQUAL WITH GOD - Philippians 2:6
27. Jesus was "God manifest in the flesh" - I Timothy 3:16
28. God was in Christ - Galatians 3:17, II Corinthians 5:19
29. Jesus is the Power of God and the Wisdom of God - I Corinthians 1:24
30. Jesus "only" hath immortality - I Timothy 6:16
31. Jesus is Lord of the living and the dead - Romans 14:9
32. Jesus is called the Saviour - Luke 2:11, Titus 1:4, Titus 2:13, Titus 3:3, II Peter 1:1, II Peter 1:11, II Peter 2:20, II Peter 3:18, I John
4:14
33. Only Jehovah God alone is the Saviour - Isaiah 43:11, Isaiah 45:15 , Hosea 13:4, I Timothy 2:2, Jude 1:25...that means Jesus is God.
34. Jesus ALONE is the Great Judge - John 5:22. The Judge is God - Hebrews 12:23, Revelation 18:8, Hebrews 13:4, Romans 2:3,5
Jesus is God. All the verses in the Bible that talk about God being the Judge refer to Jesus, since He alone judges. The Father
judges no man - John 5:22.
35. Jesus has the keys of hell and of death - Revelation 1:18. The one that can cast into hell is to be FEARED - Matthew 10:28, Luke
12:5 Only God is to be feared - Rev 14:7
36. Jesus is from EVERLASTING - Micah 5:2, Isaiah 9:6
37. Jesus has NO BEGINNING of days - Hebrews 7:3
38. Jesus is the SAME, yesterday, today and forever - Hebrews 13:8. A quote from Psalm 102:27. Jesus is God.
39. Jesus' is in the midst or the center of the throne of God - Rev 1:6
40. Jesus has the Greatest Name above every name ever named - Philippians 2:9
41. Jesus' name is the Greatest in the world to come as well - Ephesians 1:21
42. And it is before name of JESUS, not any other name including Jehovah, that the peoples of the earth and heaven and bowing before
- Philippians 2:10. Jesus is God - Isaiah 45:22-23
43. Only by the name JESUS can one be saved - Acts 4:10-12
44. Jesus is called the Alpha and Omega - Revelation 1:11
45. Jesus who is the Alpha and Omega is the ALMIGHTY - Revelation 1:7-8
46. Jesus is called the King of kings - I Timothy 6:15. Jesus is the King - Zechariah 9:9. The King is God - I Timothy 1:17. Jesus is God
47. Jesus is called Lord of lords - I Timothy 6:15. God is called Lord of lords - Deut 10:17. Jesus is God
48. Christ is called the ROCK - I Corinthians 10:4. That is who Israel followed. The ROCK who Israel followed was GOD - Deut 32:3-4.
God is the Rock - Psalm 18:2 and only God is the Rock - Psalm 18:31. Christ is God.
49. Jesus calls Himself the FIRST AND THE LAST - Revelation 1:11,17. Only GOD is the FIRST AND THE LAST - Isaiah 44:6, Isaiah
48:12. Jesus is God.
50. Jesus knows all things (OMNIPOTENT) - John 2:24-25, John 4:29, John 6:64, John 16:30
51. Jesus is OMNIPRESENT - Matthew 18:20, Matthew 28:20
52. Jesus' body fills all (is omnipresent) - Ephesians 1:23
53. Jesus knows the hearts of men - Revelation 2:23
54. Jesus dwells in the hearts - Ephesians 3:17
55. And "liveth" in the believers - Galatians 2:20
56. Jesus knows the thoughts of men - Matthew 9:4, Luke 6:8
57. And Jesus will judge the "secrets" of men - Romans 2:16
58. God shed His blood - Acts 20:28
59. The cross is the "power of God" - I Corinthians 1:17-18
60. Jesus called the Kingdom of God His Kingdom - John 18:36
61. Jesus is the "Deliverer" of the believers from the wrath of God - I Thessalonians 1:10, Romans 11:26. Only God is the Deliverer from
the wrath of God - II Corinthians 1:9-10
62. In Jesus' name we TRUST - Ephesians 1:12-13, Matthew 12:21, Philippians 2:19. Only in God do we trust - Psalm 4:5, 7:1, 31:1,
73:28, Isaiah 26:4. Jesus is God.
63. Jesus is the TRUTH - John 14:6. Jesus is God - Psalm 31:5
64. Jesus sent the prophets - Matthew 23:34...God sent the prophets - Jeremiah 7:25. Jesus is God who sent the prophets.
65. Jesus is the Stone of stumbling - I Peter 2:8. A prophesy from Isaiah 8:13-14. God is the stone of stumbling. Jesus is God.
66. God is the fountain of living waters - Jeremiah 17:13....Jesus is the fountain of living waters - John 4:10-14
67. Jesus brings reward to the wicked for their works - Matthew 16:27. Jesus is God - Psalm 54:4-5, II Samuel 3:39.
68. The reward of salvation is "with Jesus" - Revelation 22:12. Jesus is God - Isaiah 62:11, Isaiah 40:10
69. Jesus gave power to His people - Luke 9:1. Jesus is God - Psalm 68:35
70. Jesus is called the HOLY ONE - Acts 3:14. Jesus is God - Isaiah 30:15, Isaiah 40:25, Isaiah 41:14, Isaiah 43:15
71. Jesus is the light - John 8:12. Jesus is God - Psalm 27:1
72. Jesus is the Husband of believers - Revelation 19:7,9, 21:2, 21:9. Jesus is God - Isaiah 54:5
73. Jesus gives us rest - Matthew 11:28. Jesus is God - Exodus 33:14
74. Jesus gathers the sheep - John 10:16. Jesus is God - Ezekiel 34:11
75. Jesus seeks and saves that which is lost - Luke 19:10. Jesus is God - Ezekiel 34:16
76. Jesus is the Shepherd - John 10:11,14. Jesus is God - Psalm 23:1
77. Jesus feeds the people and causes them to sit down - Mark 8:5-10, Matthew 14:19-21. Jesus is God - Ezekiel 34:15
78. The blood of Jesus cleanses us from sin - I John 1:7. God cleanses from sin - Psalm 51:2, Ezekiel 36:25.. Jesus is God
79. Redemption is from Jesus Christ - Romans 3:24, Colossians 1:14. Redemption is from God - Psalm 130:7. Jesus is God
80. Christ is the Redeemer - Galatians 4:5, Galatians 3:13, Revelation 5:9, Titus 2:14. God is the Redeemer - Jeremiah 31:11, Isaiah
41:14, Isaiah 44:22, Isaiah 44:6, Isaiah 44:24. Jesus is God
81. Jesus wrote new commandments with His finger - John 8:5-9. This is to show that He is God who wrote the 10 commandments with
His finger - Exodus 31:18
82. The Bible declares God. That God is Jesus who is written in all the scriptures - Luke 24:27, Luke 24:44, John 5:39, John 5:46
83. ALL things are by Jesus - I Corinthians 8:6
84. John the Baptist, the voice in the wilderness prepared the coming of the Lord - Matthew 3:3. A quote from Isaiah 40:3...He prepared
the coming of Jehovah God!!!!
85. Jesus forgave sin - Matthew 9:2, Mark 2:5....and only GOD can forgive sins - Mark 2:7. Only God can forgive sin where they are
atoned for it. Jesus is God.
86. Jesus forgave sins and healed diseases - Matthew 9:6. Only God can do that - Psalm 103:3
87. Jesus calmed the storm - Matthew 8:26...Only God can - Psalm 107:25
88. God was pierced - Zechariah 12:10...quoted again in John 19:37. Jesus is God
89. God was priced at 30 pieces of silver - Zechariah 11:12-13...quoted again in Matthew 27:9....Jesus is God.
90. Jesus returns again with His saints - I Thess. 3:13. A fulfillment of Zechariah 14:5 that says GOD will come with His saints. Jesus is
God.
91. The Jews wanted Jesus killed for the crime of Blasphemy - Matthew 26:65. In their minds He claimed to be God - John 10:33, and
Equal with God - John 5:18 and forgave as only God can do - Mark 2:7, Luke 5:21...that was blasphemy is their eyes - Mark 2:7,
Luke 5:21. Jesus by His words and actions claimed to be God...and that is why He was found guilty by the Jews of blasphemy.
92. Jesus raised Himself from the dead - John 2:19-21. John 10:17-18
93. Jesus will raise all the dead - John 6:39-40,44. God raises the dead both physically and spiritually - Ezekiel 37:12-14. Jesus is God
94. The Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ are one and the same. Christ is God - Romans 8:9
95. Jesus quickens (which means to make alive) - John 5:21. Only God can make someone alive - Ezekiel 37:5-6,9. Only God can
quicken - Psalm 80:18. Jesus is God.
96. One cannot serve God and mammon - Matthew 6:24. Only God is to be served - Romans 1:9. The One we serve is Jesus Christ -
Colossians 3:24.
97. Jesus is the one who "justifies" - Galatians 2:17. ONLY GOD can justifieth - Romans 8:33. Jesus is God.
98. Jesus "reveals" truth - Luke 10:22, Matthew 11:27. Only GOD can reveal truth - Philippians 3:15, I Corinthians 2:10. Jesus is God.
99. God will not share His glory with another - Isaiah 42:8, 48:11. But the Father glorifies the Son - John 17:1,5, John 12:23, John 13:31-
32. Jesus is God and He is ONE with the Father.
100. ONLY in the name of JESUS is their salvation. There is salvation is NONE OTHER - Acts 4:10-12, II Timothy 2:10. And salvation
belongs to GOD - Psalm 3:8, Jonah 2:9, Lamentations 3:26, Isaiah 52:10, Psalm 51:14. Since only in the name of Jesus is there
salvation and salvation belongs to God, that simply means Jesus is God.
101. Jesus chooses the elect - John 15:16. Jesus is God - I Thess. 2:13, I Cor. 1:27
102. Men are Jesus' disciples - John 13:35, John 15:8. Jesus is God - Isaiah 8:16
103. Jesus' voice is the sound of many waters - Revelation 1:15. Jesus is Almighty God - Ezekiel 43:2.
104. Jesus' feet are like fine brass - Revelation 1:15. Jesus is God - Ezekiel 1:7, Ezekiel 1:28
105. Jesus' name is the Word of God - Revelation 19:13
106. All grace comes from God - I Peter 5:10. Jesus is that God where all grace comes from - Rev 22:21, Romans 16:20, I Thess. 5:28,
II Thess. 3:18
107. Jesus comes with clouds - Rev 1:7, Matthew 24:30 - Jesus is God - Isaiah 19:1, Jeremiah 4:13, Numbers 11:25
108. Jesus is called God - John 1:1, Hebrews 1:8
109. Jesus is called The Great God - Titus 2:13
110. Jesus is called The Mighty God - Isaiah 9:6
111. Jesus is called The True God - I John 5:20
112. Jesus is "God with us" - Matthew 1:21
113. Jesus is called "My God" - John 20:28. Since there is "no other God" - Isaiah 45:5,21-22..that means Jesus is that God.
114. Jesus is called "our hope" - I Timothy 1:1. We hope in Jesus - I Cor. 15:19. We are to only hope in God - I Peter 1:21, Psalm 38:15.
Jesus is God.
115. Christ is our life - Colossians 3:4. Jesus is God - Psalm 42:8
116. Jesus is called Faithful - Revelation 19:11. Jesus is God - Deut 7:9
117. Jesus is called True - Revelation 19:11. Jesus is God - Romans 3:4
118. Israel temped Christ - I Corinthians 10:9. Jesus is God - Deut 6:16, Numbers 14:22.
119. Christ sent serpents and destroyed Israel - I Cor 10:9. Jesus is God - Numbers 21:6-7
120. Jesus rebukes and chastens - Revelation 3:19 - Jesus is God - Hebrews 12:5-7, Proverbs 3:11-12.
121. Jesus is the Author and Finisher of faith - Hebrews 12:2
122. God said "Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness" - Genesis 1:26. The plurality refers to the Trinity. This is not talking
about the angels or heavenly host. Angels cannot create life. Secondly, nowhere is it indicated that angels are made in the image of
God. Third, there is no indication that mankind is created in the image of angels.
123. The plurality of the Trinity is also referred to in Genesis 3:22 and Isaiah 6:8. Jesus is God.
124. Before Jesus became man, He had glory with the Father before the world was - John 17:5
125. All things are given into Jesus' hand - John 3:35
126. Jesus is described as "WHICH WAS" dead, and "IS" alive - Revelation 2:8. The one who "which was" and "which is" is Almighty
God - Revelation 4:8, Revelation 1:8. Jesus is God.
127. The "Great Day" of the Wrath of the Lamb - Revelation 6:16-17 is the "Great Day" of God Almighty - Revelation 16:14. Jesus is the
Lamb who is God Almighty.
128. Jesus is the King - I Timothy 6:15, John 18:37. Jesus is the King who is called the "only wise God" - I Timothy 1:17
129. Jesus is called the "Just One" - Acts 22:14. Jesus is God - Isaiah 45:21
130. Jesus "gives" repentance - Acts 5:31, Acts 3:26. Jesus is God - II Timothy 2:25
131. Jesus reconciled all things to Himself - Colossians 1:20. Jesus is God - Romans 5:18-19
132. Jesus brings Judgment on the churches in Revelation 2 and 3. Jesus is God - Hebrews 10:30, Deuteronomy 32:35-36
133. God has a Father - Revelation 1:6. That God is Jesus Christ.
134. Jesus stilled the waves and rules the sea- Matthew 8:26-27, Mark 4:39-41. Jesus is God - Psalm 89:8-9
135. Jesus has eyes that are sent forth into all the earth - Revelation 5:6 - Jesus is God - II Chronicles 16:9
136. To know the love of Christ is to be filled with the fulness of God - Ephesians 3:19
137. Christ strengthens the believers - Philippians 4:13. Christ is God - Isaiah 40:29, Isaiah 41:10
138. In Christ's presence is fullness of joy - John 15:11. Jesus is God - Psalm 16:11
139. To see Jesus is to see the Father and to hate Jesus is to hate the Father as well - John 15:24, John 15:23
140. Jesus turns the water into wine - John 2:7-11. A creative act to show that Jesus is Creator God.
141. Jesus walks on water - John 6:19, Matthew 14:26, Mark 6:48 - Jesus is God - Psalm 93:4, Psalm 95:5, Psalm 72:8, Job 9:8
142. Jesus causes the blind to see - Matthew 9:27-30, Matthew 11:5, Mark 8:22-26, Mark 10:51-52. Jesus is God - Psalm 146:8, Isaiah
35:4-5
143. Jesus causes the deaf to hear - Matthew 11:5, Mark 7:32, Mark 7:37 - Jesus is God - Isaiah 35:4-5, Isaiah 43:7-8
144. Jesus causes the dumb to speak - Matthew 9:32-33, Matt 15:31, Mark 7:37, Luke 11:14. Jesus is God - Isaiah 36:6, Ezekiel 24:27,
Ezekiel 33:22
145. Jesus causes the lame to walk - Matthew 11:5, Mark 2:11, Luke 7:22 - Jesus is God - Isaiah 35:6
146. Jesus' face shines as the sun - Matthew 17:2. Jesus is God - Psalm 84:11, Malachi 4:2
147. Jesus will inherit all nations - Psalm 2:7-8. Jesus is God - Psalm 82:8
148. Jesus will rule all nations with a rod of iron - Revelation 12:5. Jesus is God - Isaiah 14:5-6
149. Jesus will smite all nations with a rod or iron. He is the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God - Revelation 19:15. He is Almighty
God who brings wrath.
150. Jesus and His Father established the ends of the earth - Proverbs 30:4
151. Jesus was without sin - II Corinthians 5:21, Hebrews 4:15, I Peter 2:22. Only God is without sin - Deuteronomy 32:4. Jesus is God
152. Jesus is ABOVE ALL - John 3:31
153. Jesus is GOD OVER ALL - Romans 9:5
154. Jesus is LORD OF ALL - Acts 10:36
155. The Lord God sent His angel to John - Rev 22:6. It is Jesus that sent His angel - Rev 22:16. Jesus is the Lord God.
156. Jesus is called the "Lord of Glory" - I Corinthians 2:8. Jesus is YHWH God - Psalm 24:8-10
157. Jesus gets glory now and forever - II Peter 3:18
158. The Father calls Jesus "LORD" who made heaven and earth - Hebrews 1:10
159. Heaven is God's throne and earth His FOOTSTOOL - Isaiah 66:1, Matthew 5:34-35. Jesus is God - Matthew 22:44, Hebrews 1:13
160. Every knee shall bow, and "every tongue" shall confess to GOD - Romans 14:11. The God "every tongue" is confessing to is
JESUS CHRIST - Philippians 2:11​

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What do you think is meant by attaining resurrection from death?

It refers to being resurrected with a new body. And I suppose you're going to take that verse from Paul to argue that he was only wishing or hoping for it.

 

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Everything we have is a gift from God. I can't believe you are truly denying this.

I've denied nothing, so stop with the dramatics.

The Bible is very specific about what are God's gifts. Paul noted 3 of them in Romans, and described another one in Ephesians. Acts 10 mentions another.

The problem for those who reject what Rom 11:29 clearly says is to find in that very same context a clear verse that indicates that eternal life wasn't included in 11:29.

And, so far, no one has done that. Because it can't be done.

When Paul wrote that the gifts and calling of God are irrevocable, he didn't indicate that only some are, or many are, or anything else.

Therefore, ALL of God's gifts, which we know from what Scripture specifically SAYS, are irrevocable.

It was Paul who specifically described justification and eternal life as gifts of God. So when he wrote 11:29, it should be obvious to everyone that he was including them.

It would have been reckless and irresponsible to not include those 2 specific gifts when he wrote 11:29 if that were true.