London's mayor has banned 'unrealistic body images' from transport advertising

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I just fail to see how censoring subway ads are going to do squat in improving people's self esteem. Especially with the rise of new media where hot bodies are able to be plastered around like never before. It's a losing battle. Especially considering how little the body positive movement focuses on male issues. You really think that is going to inspire us to be comrades in the movement?
Well, the OTHER option is that someone somewhere becomes a leader on this issue.
 
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Well, the OTHER option is that someone somewhere becomes a leader on this issue.

A leader and do what? Biologically we're hardwired to want to look good for potential mates. With modern technology its just easier for us to round up the best and show them off. I fail to see how we're going to fight this. Especially when feminist camps already fail so badly at it..
 
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Transport for London obviously has a policy for advertising on its premises, and arrangements for how those rules should be applied — just as a newspaper or a cinema or a television station or a billboard company has. TfL's policy seems mainstream and sensible, and it obviously has the right to formulate such a policy. What's the issue?

Again, let's stop pretending there is some sort of majority opinion here.

There were 37000 complaints. That is not 'mainstream'.
 
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Advertising works by means of making the consumer feel inadequate without their product. Almost by definition, they are trying to make "overweight" (not just fat....even people MILDLY overweight or self conscious) feel bad.

Sure...but why isn't that viewed in the same way for other scenarios?

For example...should commercials for BMW be banned because they might make people who can't afford one feel bad?

This idea that "we can't hurt anyone's feelings because they haven't achieved the same things we have" still seems backwards to me. You're punishing people for hard work and success at that point.
 
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Transport for London obviously has a policy for advertising on its premises, and arrangements for how those rules should be applied — just as a newspaper or a cinema or a television station or a billboard company has. TfL's policy seems mainstream and sensible, and it obviously has the right to formulate such a policy. What's the issue?

Because I think the whole thing is pointless, and is just another nudge to coddle society.

I'm not losing sleep over it or anything though.

Most of my anger is from the real worry that this isn't even going to be applied fairly between the genders.
 
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Again, let's stop pretending there is some sort of majority opinion here.

There were 37000 complaints. That is not 'mainstream'.
I think I once read that for every vocal complainer, there are 10-20 people who agree, but don't bother to complain.
 
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Was at a great talk in London last night (thrown by spiked news, great site, check them out) and someone made the point regarding this plan of Khan's - he said he didn't want his daughters to be harmed by this.

He is in effect treating us like his children.
 
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I think I once read that for every vocal complainer, there are 10-20 people who agree, but don't bother to complain.

That's still 740,000 people if we take the more liberal estimate - and again assuming unique complainants.

Greater London has 13.5m people.

Again, so what does it matter what the easiest-offended minority think?
 
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Sure...but why isn't that viewed in the same way for other scenarios?

For example...should commercials for BMW be banned because they might make people who can't afford one feel bad?

This idea that "we can't hurt anyone's feelings because they haven't achieved the same things we have" still seems backwards to me. You're punishing people for hard work and success at that point.


Hey, don't give the SJWs any ideas.. :p
 
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we shall rename the BMW the SJW!

sozial justische wagen

I wouldn't feel safe driving in something like that. The designers might have chosen not to install airbags because they felt like airbags were objectifying women's boobs, and I'll end up hitting a tree and splitting my head open because there were not airbags to deploy. Lol.
 
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I wouldn't feel safe driving in something like that. The designers might have chosen not to install airbags because they felt like airbags were objectifying women's boobs, and I'll end up hitting a tree and splitting my head open because there were not airbags to deploy. Lol.

Don't tell me to wear my seatbelt!

Teach dashboards not to go through my skull!
 
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I think the sozial justische wagen would make a good meme, lol.

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Pretty much!

Actually... there is an app out there that tells you a story about zombies and whatnot, the idea is you go out jogging, have your gps turned on, it plays music from your library, then breaks in with scripted news reports of zombies, then it'll do a "ZOMBIES ARE CHASING YOU RUN!" and depending how fast and how long you keep moving it'll tell you if you got away. I've never actually messed with it but I believe there is also a base building aspect to it.

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The kids who get perfect SAT scores set unrealistic standards for test scores. Let's off them next.
Give it time. We has a large part of our society that seems to worship at the altar of mediocrity.

http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...nfairly-disadvantaging-others-katherine-timpf

In an interview with ABC Radio last week, philosopher and professor Adam Swift said that since “bedtime stories activities . . . do indeed foster and produce . . . [desired] familial relationship goods,” he wouldn’t want to ban them, but that parents who “engage in bedtime-stories activities” should definitely at least feel kinda bad about it sometimes:
 
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