Led Zeppelin Stairway to Heaven satanic?!?!?!?!?

[TAFKAP]

I'm a huge fan of Led Zeppelin and I'm a Christian.

 

[smooze]

me 2 . The whole thing i think about Stairway is we can't BUY our way into heaven. Thats my ananlogy short and sweet.

 

[Buho]

A point of information for the curious:

I'm hooked into a group that likes to study the paranormal. It's common practice to find spoken words from demons (they call them ghosts) in recordings taken on-site when played backwards, albeit rare. They're called EVPs, or electronic voice phenominon.

Additionally, the group found the research findings of a secular, non-paranormal study that noticed regular human speach, when played backwards, the human listener can sometimes (often?) identify short phrases of recognizable speach that is in context with the subject spoken the normal direction. The researcher's don't know why, but speculate the brain is so complex it thinks on several levels and the short phrases are echos of that -- speach overlayed backwards on normal speach. I speculate it's just the human's amazing ability to find patterns where none exist (like pictures in the clouds). Here's a quick Google search. Might not be the best article.

Thought I'd put that out there

 

[ALABALE]

All I know is that:

STRESSED spelled backwards is DESSERTS!

I think I'm going to turn my stress backwards and have a sundae!

 

[TheNewAge]

me 2 . The whole thing i think about Stairway is we can't BUY our way into heaven. Thats my ananlogy short and sweet.

The song wasn't about buying our way into heaven. I am surprised you thought so-- Christians seem to think they are the masters of determining when something is supposed to be interpreted literally or symbolically.

Stairway to Heaven was about a woman with lots of money who thought she could buy anything, even her path to heaven, as if it were real estate. The song was about human greed and materialism. It portryed that there is much more to life than money (something the Christian church could stand to learn from).
AS to playing the record backwards, you need to find some new hobbies; instead of sifting through your music collection looking for signs of the devil. Adding backwards messages to records was a fad that doesn't denote Satanism anymore than today's ****** looking pop stars outfits do. The musician was simply following a fad.

 

[TealTuesday]

What a waste of time,playing songs backwards.I imagine you can hear whatever you want to.Like white noise and ghosts,this is too far fetched for me.
Zeppelin had so many greater songs than this one anyways, the focus on Stairway To Heaven amazes me.Over the Hills and Faraway,Going To California,Black Dog,etc.Can we applaud them here?

cool.

 

[SpankyW2]

Yeah they have played Led Zep backwards and the Beatles, Black Sabbath, you name it. Talking about hidden messages, and a lot of other stuff.

 

[DavidBomin]

I used to like ledzeppelin until I became a christian no person can believe in GOd and like this type of music they're wasting their talents that they could use to glorify God and if they don't their just glorifying satan. A man can't serve two masters at once.

 

[Alejandro]

As someone who was playing clubs and recording during the 60's & 70's and who was immersed in the music and culture of the time, I can tell you that the satanic nature of Led Zepplin is not only easy to prove, they never tried to hide it.

I can also say from being on the inside in the secular music biz, that you will not find God anywhere in it. I was thankfully saved by the Lord and left an opportunity to "make the big time" and I never regretted it or looked back.

If you fill your mind with Praise and Worship you will have a mind that is focused on God. Anything else will fill your mind with at best useless tunes that keep your mind too busy to focus on God, or more likely, music that while it sounds great is purposefully designed to focus your mind on the devil.

Don't be deceived, most secular musicians are knowingly serving the devil in order to gain fame and fortune. Led Zepplin is no exception to the rule, in fact, they are the rule exposed.

I agree 100%

Jimmy Page bought the previous house of Aleister Crowleyan English Occultist/Magician. Don't get me wrong.. it is a good song... nothing wrong with that.. but I believe my purpose is to worship God... not satan.. We belong to God as Jesus paid a high price for our sins.

If you feel happy with listening to this music while knowing this is for satan.. then I highly suggest you to reat 1st Corithians 10 : 18-22

Idol Feasts and the Lord's Supper

18Consider the people of Israel: Do not those who eat the sacrifices participate in the altar? 19Do I mean then that a sacrifice offered to an idol is anything, or that an idol is anything? 20No, but the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons. 21You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; you cannot have a part in both the Lord's table and the table of demons. 22Are we trying to arouse the Lord's jealousy? Are we stronger than he?

(New International Version)

 

[beazlebob]

I used to like ledzeppelin until I became a christian no person can believe in GOd and like this type of music they're wasting their talents that they could use to glorify God and if they don't their just glorifying satan. A man can't serve two masters at once.

I have one thing to say to you!!! You are a MORON!!!!
Being a christian has nothing to do with what kind of music you listen to!

 

[caitsey]

we did a thesis not too long ago on playing songs backwards and subliminal messages. according to a previous study, the group that didn't know about the subliminal messages, never picked them up. The ones that did know about them were the ones that "heard" the message. So, it doesn't seem to be consistent. it's really interesting, though!

 

[simwells]

if you listen here http://jeffmilner.com/backmasking.htm to all of the songs backwards, I'd be very surprised if you can understand any of the songs without the lyrics written down in front of you (except for the Floyd and Weird Al songs where they were put in on purpose)

 

[cewing]

I think that if you enjoy the music, and enjoy the sound of the singers voice, it doesnt mean u agree with what they are singing about. Going to extremities, I listen to black sabbath, and although he at times appears satanic, and at times warns listeners to stay away from the occult, i listen to it cause i love the music. I dont think u have to agree with the lyrics in order to listen to it.

 

[Abigailvolp]

man some people are just weird- some one sent me a britney spears song- opps i did it again- and you play it backwards and in the chorus it says- sleep with me im not to young.
my question is - why do people listen to songs backwards? they have to much time on their hands

 

[MillionPieces]

I don't know much about Led Zeppelin, but people criticize bands too much. If you like their music, get it, but if you don't, don't get it. If you don't like their music, you shouldn't be judging them, because it's about their music, not them. People are always starting clubs against Avril Lavigne and Hilary Duff and stuff, and it's very annoying, because they shouldn't be listening to the tabloids and making up reasons to hate them, because it's God's job to judge people. Besides, you're not doing any good by criticizing bands and their music.

 

[tanya88]

I'm not critizing Led Zeppelin or anything like that but I don't like his music. The Holy Spirit that lives in me doesn't like it eather. Music is food for the soul and I think we as Christians should really watch what we are listening to.

 

[soundchaser59]

This has gone waaaaaay too far overboard. Like most of the classic rock bands, Led Zeppelin wrote about topics that were prevalent and popular at the time. Many of Plant's and Page's lyrics are culled from references to tidbits in Lord Of The Rings. I listened to many songs backwards when I was younger and I have never heard anything that sounds like complete English sentences. It all sounds like gibberish, maybe....MAYBE.....with a few coincidences here and there, like the "666" you say is in the Stairway lyric. Sure, it kinda sounds like "six six six." But so what? To say it is deliberately engineered and produced to have intelligible English spoken messages about satan worship when played backwards is ridiculous. Except for obvious "plants" (no pun intended!) like the Pink Floyd message.

Of course, the Beatles started this craziness when they experimented with playing tape backwards in Revolution #9. I have no doubt at all that people like charlie manson and his herd taking enough LSD and pot and alcohol (which they most certainly were taking!) could convince themselves, if they wanted to, that Rev #9 backwards had Dorothy singing Pomp & Circumstance to the Wizard of Oz! They obviously had other ideas, but I guarantee you they had those ideas long before they ever heard Revolution #9 backwards!

"Don't be deceived, most secular musicians are knowingly serving the devil in order to gain fame and fortune."

I dont suppose you care to provide any hard evidence of that assertion? Like a photo of a contract, preferably signed by some famous rocker, with a clause at the bottom that says "You will be enslaved to Satan for the term of this contract." Did you actually intend for this claim to be taken literally? Or were you making a generalized stereotype based on observations of the demeanor, attitudes, immaturity, and life styles of those who have actually suffered thru fame and fortune?

This is my first time here. I'm sorry to say that the very first thread that catches my eye is somebody harping about some 30 year old "Led Zeppelin = Satan Worship" craze. Back in the 70's I heard Fundamentalists fill in that blank with a hundred different band names, but they never once produced any examples that sounded like intelligible English sentences. Do you guys honestly believe that the industry produces these albums with the sincere belief that people will actually buy them with the full intent of playing them backwards?

Is that really all the farther Christians have come in 30 years?? Is that the best thing we have to talk about today? We could probably play Billy Graham sermons backwards and sooner or later we would hear some syllables that vaguely kinda sound like "Satan" or sorta like "six six six".....You can probably play Somewhere Over The Rainbow backwards and find satan and six six six in that too. Gimmmmeeee a break! No wonder Christians still are not being taken seriously yet!

Come on people......

 

[Buho]

Welcome, Sound Chaser!

We could probably play Billy Graham sermons backwards and sooner or later we would hear some syllables that vaguely kinda sound like "Satan" or sorta like "six six six".....You can probably play Somewhere Over The Rainbow backwards and find satan and six six six in that too. Gimmmmeeee a break!

Regarding this aspect.... Refer to page one of this thread where I talk about the human's strange ability to pick up patterns (read, words) in reverse speach. This is probably all we're hearing, baring Revolution #9 and other intentional inserts.

Do you guys honestly believe that the industry produces these albums with the sincere belief that people will actually buy them with the full intent of playing them backwards?

Actually, I believe the industry doesn't believe that, but I believe the musicians believe a few people will. I'm a computer programmer. Ever heard of "easter eggs" in computer programs? Here's an example: In Internet Explorer, hold down CTRL and select Help -> About Internet Explorer in the menu. Scroll to the bottom of the inserted text and then double-click the Windows flag on the bottom-left of the dialog. The flag will now change to a developer's face. Double-click again to go to the next one.

I just made that up, by the way, so don't try it. The point is: this little goofy code that developers (and myself) like to insert into their code is just for fun, and is an attempt to slide something past their no-humor bosses. Just because they can! Some easter eggs are so well hidden, nobody could possibly find them by accident. Months after the release of the product sometimes a developer will let slip a hint about an easter egg, and the word spreads across the Internet. Microsoft Excel 97 had an easter egg that was a built-in flight simulator, albeit crude. That's cool!

And so is putting backwards messages into songs. Of course, me being a Christian I'd put something like "Jesus loves you" in it That'd shut up the satanists looking for further instruction in their music! Hahaha! Another kind of easter egg might be arranging the first letter of each line of lyrics to spell something, like J-E-S-U-S. Rock and heavy metal musicians appeal to the anarchist-wannabe. Hailing to Satan is just one way to "buck the system".

 

[soundchaser59]

I used to like ledzeppelin until I became a christian no person can believe in GOd and like this type of music they're wasting their talents that they could use to glorify God and if they don't their just glorifying satan. A man can't serve two masters at once.

I believe in God, AND I like Led Zeppelin. They were gifted musicians, and that gift came from God. If Luke can find a tiny thread of good in Darth Vader, cant you believe for one minute that Jimmy Page has at least one shred of spiritual decency? Why would you rather condemn him than help him find his own God light inside?

Did you used to listen to Pink Floyd also? I wonder, because this attitude is so "us and them".......

This is exactly the kind of stuff my mom slapped me in the face with every day when I was little. She scared away a million times more people from Christ than she ever won over, including me. If being a Christian meant being like her, then No Thanks! People who are looking for reasons to believe just aren't that shallow or that unsophisticated.

I know you are only a teen ager right now, but this kind of superficial dogma is the very reason why non-believers cannot take Christians seriously. You cant just quote King James any more, condemning people to hell who you dont know anything about, and expect them to either fall to their knees or else burn with rage. The world desperately needs Christians who are more sophisticated than this now. Try studying philosophy and theology and sociology, then read Lee Strobel and CS Lewis, read what the atheists have to say so you can intelligently assess their positions, then use a more subtle and intellectual delivery. You will have far more positive influence over people that way than with the attitude in the quote.

And read a little history about the human beings in the band before you pre-judge them. If you grew up with my mom, you'd be just as curious about the other "belief systems" as you say Jimmy Page was. 99% of the time, youth are driven to what they believe by the way their parents and their families treat them when they are growing up. - SC

 

[tanya88]

Don't underestimate the power of music!