I just happened to drop by ISF (formerly JREF) for the first time in awhile to see what nonsense they are spewing at the moment, and I noticed a recent thread entitled "Electric Universe: has there ever been a scientific research program?"
In that thread, they seem to be insinuating that EU/PC ideas cannot or have not been "tested" in lab, or that the EU/PC community is not interested in real life experiments. The irony of course is that EU/PC theory began it's existence based upon a series of laboratory experiments by Birkeland, all of which produced many successful predictions which have since been confirmed by satellites in space. From his experiments in the lab, Birkeland successfully predicted the existence of Birkeland currents in aurora, both types of high speed charged particles flowing from the sun, discharges in the solar atmosphere, coronal loops, polar jets, etc. All of these predictions were directly related to a "research program", as were all the recent SAFIRE experiments. In fact, because EU/PC ideas are all based upon pure empirical physics, many if not all of the core tenets can (and already have) been tested in the lab, and they have produced successful results.
We would *love* to have the public financial resources to conduct additional experiments. I for one would love the scientific community to drop 10 million dollars to recreate Birkeland's experiments using modern equipment, but alas the mainstream keeps pouring all our public funds into big holes in the ground, only to simply ignore the outcome of their so called "research".
Lambda-CDM has been a *complete disaster* in the lab. Not only are they incapable of even empirically researching supernatural claims like "expanding space" in a lab, or "inflation" in a lab, their beloved dark matter of the gaps claims have been falsified in the lab in every single experiment they have conducted. The mainstream doesn't even care about the outcome of the "research" as it relates to their own belief systems. If they did, they would have abandoned their claims about exotic matter already. They spent billions of dollars "researching" their beloved and sacred SUSY theory at LHC, and not a single predicted "sparticle" showed it's ugly face. They poured tens of millions of dollars down several holes at LUX, PandaX, AMDx, electron roundness tests, etc and again, not a single prediction they made was worth the paper it was printed on. They came up entirely empty and they simply do not care about the outcome of such research in the first place!
The mainstream has no way to even "research" most of their claims in the lab, and the few claims that can be "tested" all got blown out of the water.
That whole ISF thread is a joke. Lambda-CDM proponents don't actually do any real "research" that can or ever has had any effect at all on their "beliefs". In spite of their spectacular string of failures to find "dark matter", they simply ignore any and all "tests" entirely. They still write insistently about "WIMPS" in spite of the lab results that falsified all the popular models. They still write about mythical axions too though AMDx saw nothing of the sort. Their beef with EU/PC theory is therefore a joke.
We would *love* to have the public funds to do some serious empirical research, but they're constantly wasting those precious funds conducting "research" that doesn't matter to them one iota, and burying their collective heads in the sand with respect to the results of that research.
In that thread, they seem to be insinuating that EU/PC ideas cannot or have not been "tested" in lab, or that the EU/PC community is not interested in real life experiments. The irony of course is that EU/PC theory began it's existence based upon a series of laboratory experiments by Birkeland, all of which produced many successful predictions which have since been confirmed by satellites in space. From his experiments in the lab, Birkeland successfully predicted the existence of Birkeland currents in aurora, both types of high speed charged particles flowing from the sun, discharges in the solar atmosphere, coronal loops, polar jets, etc. All of these predictions were directly related to a "research program", as were all the recent SAFIRE experiments. In fact, because EU/PC ideas are all based upon pure empirical physics, many if not all of the core tenets can (and already have) been tested in the lab, and they have produced successful results.
We would *love* to have the public financial resources to conduct additional experiments. I for one would love the scientific community to drop 10 million dollars to recreate Birkeland's experiments using modern equipment, but alas the mainstream keeps pouring all our public funds into big holes in the ground, only to simply ignore the outcome of their so called "research".
Lambda-CDM has been a *complete disaster* in the lab. Not only are they incapable of even empirically researching supernatural claims like "expanding space" in a lab, or "inflation" in a lab, their beloved dark matter of the gaps claims have been falsified in the lab in every single experiment they have conducted. The mainstream doesn't even care about the outcome of the "research" as it relates to their own belief systems. If they did, they would have abandoned their claims about exotic matter already. They spent billions of dollars "researching" their beloved and sacred SUSY theory at LHC, and not a single predicted "sparticle" showed it's ugly face. They poured tens of millions of dollars down several holes at LUX, PandaX, AMDx, electron roundness tests, etc and again, not a single prediction they made was worth the paper it was printed on. They came up entirely empty and they simply do not care about the outcome of such research in the first place!
The mainstream has no way to even "research" most of their claims in the lab, and the few claims that can be "tested" all got blown out of the water.
That whole ISF thread is a joke. Lambda-CDM proponents don't actually do any real "research" that can or ever has had any effect at all on their "beliefs". In spite of their spectacular string of failures to find "dark matter", they simply ignore any and all "tests" entirely. They still write insistently about "WIMPS" in spite of the lab results that falsified all the popular models. They still write about mythical axions too though AMDx saw nothing of the sort. Their beef with EU/PC theory is therefore a joke.
We would *love* to have the public funds to do some serious empirical research, but they're constantly wasting those precious funds conducting "research" that doesn't matter to them one iota, and burying their collective heads in the sand with respect to the results of that research.