Just for final clarification yes, we evolved from monkeys.

[HitchSlap]

I'm sure that just breaks his heart.

When the day comes that we Christians owe you guys a scientific explanation for our beliefs, then I'd say we missed the Rapture somehow.

I'm glad you concede the fact there are no good reasons to believe.

 

[SteveB28]

I have noticed when creationists do not understand the scientific method that was used to come to a conclusion they will often claim that a concept is "assumed". When a creationist claims that something is assumed I read it as meaning that they do not understand how a conclusion was reached.

Exactly. The poor clods (not that we have any of those here, of course...!) don't/won't seem to grasp that ALL hypotheses formed are an "assumption" of one stripe or another.

It was an "assumption" of Copernicus that the planets move around the sun in the manner they do. It was an "assumption" by Pasteur and others that infectious diseases were caused by microbes. It is an "assumption" that flight 'works' due to differential air pressures created around an aerofoil.

The key point is that these "assumptions" are then tested against the evidence.....! Over and over again, in the pursuit of showing the "assumptions" to be false. As the "assumptions" continue to resist these attempts, our confidence increases, to the point that they eventually become accepted as scientific theories.

In the case of evolutionary theory, these attempts to falsify have been going on for more than 150 years, resulting in one of the most robust theories known to mankind....!



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[JackRT]

Exactly. The poor clods (not that we have any of those here, of course...!) don't/won't seem to grasp that ALL hypotheses formed are an "assumption" of one stripe or another.

It was an "assumption" of Copernicus that the planets move around the sun in the manner they do. It was an "assumption" by Pasteur and others that infectious diseases were caused by microbes. It is an "assumption" that flight 'works' due to differential air pressures created around an aerofoil.

The key point is that these "assumptions" are then tested against the evidence.....! Over and over again, in the pursuit of showing the "assumptions" to be false. As the "assumptions" continue to resist these attempts, our confidence increases, to the point that they eventually become accepted as scientific theories.

In the case of evolutionary theory, these attempts to falsify have been going on for more than 150 years, resulting in one of the most robust theories known to mankind....!



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Well said!!

 

[SteveB28]

Well said!!

Thank you Jack.

 

[AV1611VET]

When a creationist claims that something is assumed I read it as meaning that they do not understand how a conclusion was reached.

We don't rig votes to reach them though.

 

[SteveB28]

We don't rig votes to reach them though.

"When science and the Bible differ, science has obviously misinterpreted its data."
Henry M. Morris

Yes, no jumping to conclusions there, of course............

 

[Subduction Zone]

"When science and the Bible differ, science has obviously misinterpreted its data."
Henry M. Morris

Yes, no jumping to conclusions there, of course............

And AV was complaining about the demotion of Pluto again. Even though it has been shown to him time after time that the vote was not rigged. It is his way of admitting that he is wrong.

 

[Belk]

We don't rig votes to reach them though.

Your boolean standards strike me as rigged votes.

 

[AV1611VET]

Your boolean standards strike me as rigged votes.

What are my Boolean standards?

 

[Belk]

What are my Boolean standards?

As I recall it is that anything that science says is true you accept unless it contradicts your understanding of the bible in which case you reject it.

 

[JackRT]

"When science and the Bible differ, science has obviously misinterpreted its data."
Henry M. Morris

Actually when science and the Bible differ, it is usually the case that it is a particular interpretation of the Bible that is wrong.

 

[Tjufsen]

I see this all the time, it's become one of those knee jerk responses, but we did infact evolve from monkeys if evolution is true.

This may seem pedantic, but by definition the common ancestor between monkeys and humans was infact a monkey, we would call it a monkey if we saw it today, it would fit all the criteria for being a monkey. it wasn't a modern one, but it was still a monkey.

The split from monkeys happened after new world and old world monkeys split, so humans are descended from old world monkeys wich would make our ancestors monkeys.

No, it`s true we came from monkeys, they`re animals and we can`t mate with them, we`re humans and evolved seperatly, we share some traits yes, because it`s logical by design, but like I said, monkeys are animals, and we`re humans

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

No, it`s true we came from monkeys, they`re animals and we can`t mate with them, we`re humans and evolved seperatly, we share some traits yes, because it`s logical by design, but like I said, monkeys are animals, and we`re humans

But humans ARE animals, by definition.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

No, it`s true we came from monkeys, they`re animals and we can`t mate with them, we`re humans and evolved seperatly, we share some traits yes, because it`s logical by design, but like I said, monkeys are animals, and we`re humans

This thread has been inactive for 7 years.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

This thread has been inactive for 7 years.

AV once necroed a thread that's been dead for nearly a decade.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

AV once necroed a thread that's been dead for nearly a decade.

Impressive.

 

[Tjufsen]

But humans ARE animals, by definition.

No, look at yourself in the mirror, what do you see, a human, or an animal?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

No, look at yourself in the mirror, what do you see, a human, or an animal?

A human. Which is a type of animal. The only thing that separates us from other animals is the fact that we're intelligent enough to say that we're different to other animals.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

No, look at yourself in the mirror, what do you see, a human, or an animal?

The terms/classifications aren’t mutually exclusive.

 

[AV1611VET]

AV once necroed a thread that's been dead for nearly a decade.

Fourteen years with this one:

The rotation of the earth was stopped long enough for Joshua to win the battle.

The sun (and moon) standing still are references from the point of the observer.

It's basic physics.