I saw it on TBN last night and she said she had cancer that was spreading, and she had surgery, and she is now healed? I wasn't sure if she was healed or if surgery did it. Did anyone catch that on TBN?
Oh, I agree God does it all. I was just confused regarding the belief that she should not have gotten cancer in the first place if she believed in the "by His stripes we are healed". Why would she get cancer? Why didn't she get healed without surgery?Quaffer said:God uses doctors. . .either way it's healing. Either way God is the One Who did it. The doctors know nothing without God giving them the knowledge and the ability to do what they do.
I am curious if the nay-sayers will now praise God for the healing... or will they be discouraged that yet another person has been healed by the gospel of Jesus?AlabamaMan said:She was healed by God, she said she had some surgery but there were still more affected parts of her body, but later the tests came back with no sign of cancer.
One cannot fully understand grace without needing it. Believing that by His stripes I am healed does not mean that my faith will never be tested. It means that despite what the circumstances may say, that God's word over-rides that. By His stripes I am healed. . .no matter what some doctors may say (mine happens to believe in faith healing), whether man made medicine is used or whether it happens w/o man's intervention. Either way it is God.Godisincontrol said:Oh, I agree God does it all. I was just confused regarding the belief that she should not have gotten cancer in the first place if she believed in the "by His stripes we are healed". Why would she get cancer? Why didn't she get healed without surgery?
I believe God can stop the enemy anytime anywhere and can do so in our behalf for us. I do pray God shows her through this that she needs him even more than ever and that her health is always in His hands whether the outcome is good or bad.....and to hold on to the fact that one day she will be healed of cancer if it is not all gone now.Quaffer said:One cannot fully understand grace without needing it. Believing that by His stripes I am healed does not mean that my faith will never be tested. It means that despite what the circumstances may say, that God's word over-rides that. By His stripes I am healed. . .no matter what some doctors may say (mine happens to believe in faith healing), whether man made medicine is used or whether it happens w/o man's intervention. Either way it is God.
If she were never sick people would judge her and now that she's gone through this people judge her. There seems to be a lot of judgemental attitudes regarding our sisters illness. We need each others prayers and incouragement, not judgement and ridicule. Perhaps it was all the judgement from others that helped the enemy get through.
Hal,
if you had no medical intervention, how did you find out you were healed? That is wonderful if God did that for you.
When did you see that on TBN? All I saw was that she got surgery and that "God healed her".AlabamaMan said:It is all gone, she showed the report on TBN where it said no sign of cancer.
Godisincontrol can I ask you some questions, I'm curious.Godisincontrol said:When did you see that on TBN? All I saw was that she got surgery and that "God healed her".
I just pray, if she ends up dying of cancer, that people will not lose faith in God, and they will know that God was in control of her life.
Just as if Kenneth Hagin had said he was healed of heart disease, but that happend to be what killed him, we would not lose faith in God and realize God was in control as well. None of the apostles died a comfortable death, they mostly all died being tortured and I don't find that very comforting, but I know they are fine with the Lord now and have no physical diseases...praise His name!
I believe the bible tells us to seek God in all things, and I do believe he can heal if He so chooses. But, I don't believe He heals all, all of the time. And I don't believe it is only our faith that heals us. Scripture says that God makes us sick or well, rich or poor and alive and dead, so I don't see where man can take any credit for that....and yet He tells us to have faith in Him. Do I understand it all? No, absolutely not. I have never seen a miracle in my life and I have been charasmatic for many years..... until I started studying the sovereignty of God (recently).Duggie said:Godisincontrol can I ask you some questions, I'm curious.
1)If someone is ill do you think they should seek God for their healing?
2)Do you believe God still heals our physical bodies? If not can you please show me the scriptures that back that claim?
3)When you say Godisincontrol what do you take that to mean?
Thanks
Thanks for the reply!!!Godisincontrol said:I believe the bible tells us to seek God in all things, and I do believe he can heal if He so chooses. But, I don't believe He heals all, all of the time. And I don't believe it is only our faith that heals us. Scripture says that God makes us sick or well, rich or poor and alive and dead, so I don't see where man can take any credit for that....and yet He tells us to have faith in Him. Do I understand it all? No, absolutely not. I have never seen a miracle in my life and I have been charasmatic for many years..... until I started studying the sovereignty of God (recently).
To be honest, I do see two sides to almost all debates, but I do believe everything is under God's control.
I guess I see God being in control kind of like this..... a toddler... has a free will to love, play, and even drink some poison....yet the parent has control of when they nap, play, what they play with, what they eat, what room they can go in...and they can lock up things to prevent harm. Can the child run out into the road with their free will and be killed? Yes, but a parent can go and save them by pulling them out of the way. The bible backs this up by saying that man may make his plans, but God guides the steps.
- Jer. 10:23, “I know, O Lord, that a man’s way is not in himself; nor is it in a man who walks to direct his steps.”
- Prov. 16:9, “The mind of man plans his way, but the Lord directs his steps.
And thanks for all of yours too...God is not done with me yetDuggie said:Thanks for the reply!!!