Is this a Concern?

stamperben

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Well, when the line "according to the FBI" then links to a WND article, all credibility flies right out the window. No, I'm not concerned with any camps that suggest rehabilitation of former prisoners.

Will your Western Journalism [sic] group do any "scare" articles on Aryan groups who have former prisoners in their midst? Is Pam Geller keeping an eye on them?
 
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Well, when the line "according to the FBI" then links to a WND article, all credibility flies right out the window. No, I'm not concerned with any camps that suggest rehabilitation of former prisoners.

Will your Western Journalism [sic] group do any "scare" articles on Aryan groups who have former prisoners in their midst? Is Pam Geller keeping an eye on them?
I'm sorry.. the article that I'm wondering if I should be concerned about is this and ones like this. http://counterjihadreport.com/tag/terror-training-camps-in-us-2/
terror training camps in US | The Counter Jihad Report
but then again, I might be reading the articles all wrong.
 
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Try reading sites other than those that pander to fear. Or at least balance them out with other sources.
amen... balance is good. but if danger is approaching and the person on the watchtower does not sound the alarm, the blood of those innocent slain shall be upon the head of the one that neglected to warn God's children of any approaching danger.
 
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amen... balance is good. but if danger is approaching and the person on the watchtower does not sound the alarm, the blood of those innocent slain shall be upon the head of the one that neglected to warn God's children of any approaching danger.
I think this is in the Holy bible.. Ezekiel 33:6 - But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take [any] person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.
 
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I think this is in the Holy bible.. Ezekiel 33:6 - But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take [any] person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.
Can anyone be absolutely CERTAIN without any doubt that all is WELL enough to not sound ANY alarm?
 
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Well, it ain't a concern to me because apparently, IF that map is accurate, then there's no terrorist activity in my state. Still, I'm not really afraid of terrorists attacking as I am of mass school shootings. It's less likely any one of us will experience a terrorist attack than a mass shooting.
 
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Can anyone be absolutely CERTAIN without any doubt that all is WELL enough to not sound ANY alarm?
Absolutely! Take care whenever thunderstorms are nearby. That rumbling noise you hear means lightening is near.
 
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Can anyone be absolutely CERTAIN without any doubt that all is WELL enough to not sound ANY alarm?

No.
Absolute certainties are hard to come by, for one thing.
But any lookout with a hair trigger calling "wolf", "wolf", "wolf"... all day and every day will seriously annoy people after the first few times, and then be ignored, this undermining any possibility of being able to deliver a genuine alert, should a shout really be needed.

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No.
Absolute certainties are hard to come by, for one thing.
But any lookout with a hair trigger calling "wolf", "wolf", "wolf"... all day and every day will seriously annoy people after the first few times, and then be ignored, this undermining any possibility of being able to deliver a genuine alert, should a shout really be needed.

Chris
may i ask when that alert should be sounded and when it is needed?
 
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may i ask when that alert should be sounded and when it is needed?

Now you are asking! In almost every context there is going to be a point or an areas where it is hard to call without some risk of calling it wrongly.
And then is not the best time to start considering that. In advance is better.
How much harm is done by a false alert? How much harm is done by a missed alert (at this moment)?
Is there a case for "let's watch that?" rather than a definitive decision *now.*?

Is it a situation where an alert need not be binary? (as a fire alarm is!)

If you gave a hypothetical or anonymized example it might be clearer.
Or if you decide what is definitely a "no alert" situation, and then what would be a definite "alert" situation, at least the range of the uncertain or difficult area will become apparent, to be considered.

Chris.
(Whose most common secular experience of this was from looking inside eyeballs, and deciding whether that previously unrecorded anomaly needed sending to a specialist clinic. "Send everything" as a policy would make the system grind to near halt, meaning those who really needed to be seen would be delayed. Some things spotted were, sadly, easy to call.
But that left some in-between judgements to be made. A professional responsibility, including the possibility of being wrong.)
 
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Now you are asking! In almost every context there is going to be a point or an areas where it is hard to call without some risk of calling it wrongly.
And then is not the best time to start considering that. In advance is better.
How much harm is done by a false alert? How much harm is done by a missed alert (at this moment)?
Is there a case for "let's watch that?" rather than a definitive decision *now.*?

Is it a situation where an alert need not be binary? (as a fire alarm is!)

If you gave a hypothetical or anonymized example it might be clearer.
Or if you decide what is definitely a "no alert" situation, and then what would be a definite "alert" situation, at least the range of the uncertain or difficult area will become apparent, to be considered.

Chris.
(Whose most common secular experience of this was from looking inside eyeballs, and deciding whether that previously unrecorded anomaly needed sending to a specialist clinic. "Send everything" as a policy would make the system grind to near halt, meaning those who really needed to be seen would be delayed. Some things spotted were, sadly, easy to call.
But that left some in-between judgements to be made. A professional responsibility, including the possibility of being wrong.)
ok. a question if i may. do answers only come when the question is explicit? if a question of moral or humanity or alertness or any other question is formed, do the answers change upon the way the question is asked? For example, if I ask "is it time to eat?" versus "what time should I eat" versus "what time is meal time". Do they each give a different response although the time at which to eat is set and clear? Do questions and answers become more tangent-like rather than direct? Do we never 'hear' the message of the question but only hear the 'words' of the question? If Jesus spoke in parables, did they only hear His words or did they hear His message? He asks, let me ask you one thing and if you answer then I will tell you by what authority I do these things. The Baptism of John, was it of heavenly origin or man's origin. Did they even understand what He was talking about?
 
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