Is the church still relevant?

[Dave Ellis]

I have my book, all atheists have are themselves.....

I value myself far more than your book.

 

[bhsmte]

Why what?

Read your post and what you reaponded to.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I have my book, all atheists have are themselves.....

Is that all it takes?... To have a book?

 

[civilwarbuff]

But words in books are evidence according to you. If you dont know about these other books, arent you missing evidence?

Where did I say that?

 

[civilwarbuff]

Read your post and what you reaponded to.

No God=Lost

 

[civilwarbuff]

Is that all it takes?... To have a book?

The Book.....

 

[bhsmte]

No God=Lost

Why?

 

[civilwarbuff]

Why?

Why what? What part of that do you not understand?

 

[bhsmte]

Why what? What part of that do you not understand?

Why to the claim you made.

Demonstrate why this is the case.

 

[civilwarbuff]

Why to the claim you made.

Demonstrate why this is the case.

You have been here over 3 yrs and claim to not understand; my repeating it again will do no good.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

The Book.....

Yes, I'm aware your beliefs make your book special for you, compared to all others, but from where I'm standing, I see no real difference or advantage to one old book over any other.

I think we can both agree the book Muslims read out of, is deeply flawed, irrelevant to today's society, and largely immoral. And that's ignoring the claims to divinity.

Can you accept that I look at your holy book in a similar light and for similar reasons? I accept I may be entirely wrong about the bible and may have mischaracterized it to myself, that's always a possibility.

Is there any chance you could say the same about the holy books of other religions?

 

[bhsmte]

You have been here over 3 yrs and claim to not understand; my repeating it again will do no good.

Ok, you cant tell me why. Just be honest and say so.

 

[redleghunter]

Name one serious scholar who thinks that Luke is the worlds greatest historian, much less a reliable one. Seriously man, give me a break.

Sir William Ramsay.

https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#...xzbJyq3LKtQQcS0sy8otC8p3y87P983IqAfV-z0crAAAA

 

[TLK Valentine]

You have been here over 3 yrs and claim to not understand; my repeating it again will do no good.

We understand it, we simply don't believe it.

We were hoping for someone to at least try to be convincing.

Clearly it's not you.

 

[bhsmte]

We understand it, we simply don't believe it.

We were hoping for someone to at least try to be convincing.

Clearly it's not you.

Yep, the claim is easy to understand.

Getting any evidence to support the claim, tends to come up empty.

 

[civilwarbuff]

Yes, I'm aware your beliefs make your book special for you, compared to all others, but from where I'm standing, I see no real difference or advantage to one old book over any other.

I think we can both agree the book Muslims read out of, is deeply flawed, irrelevant to today's society, and largely immoral. And that's ignoring the claims to divinity.

Can you accept that I look at your holy book in a similar light and for similar reasons? I accept I may be entirely wrong about the bible and may have mischaracterized it to myself, that's always a possibility.

Is there any chance you could say the same about the holy books of other religions?

I can't say that primarily because I don't have enough knowledge about them to make such a blanket statement.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I can't say that primarily because I don't have enough knowledge about them to make such a blanket statement.

But you also don't worry that they could be right, correct?

 

[civilwarbuff]

We understand it, we simply don't believe it.

We were hoping for someone to at least try to be convincing.

Clearly it's not you.

Yeah, got better things to do with my time than beat a dead horse......

 

[civilwarbuff]

But you also don't worry that they could be right, correct?

No, I don't.......

 

[TLK Valentine]

Yeah, got better things to do with my time than beat a dead horse......

And yet here you are...