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Is it a sin to smoke marijuana?

Discussion in 'Christian Philosophy & Ethics' started by thereisnogreaterlove, Oct 29, 2009.

  1. withdrawTHEhate

    withdrawTHEhate Newbie

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    I'm sorry, but I'll have to disagree with most of your post.

    I'm probably going to be contradicting just about everyone in this thread, but marijuana isn't unhealthy for you. In fact it's very healthy for you contrary to the popular media beliefs. I'm not going to rant on about it, but I would say if you get addicted to it, then yes i guess i would consider it a sin. Although, if your using it for medical and stress relieving purposes, then I would say no.
     
  2. heron

    heron Legend

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    Every plant has an amazing set of properties. Poison ivy has been used to relieve symptoms. Many spices help kill germs. Mushroom types target different viruses. We know that the same plant that helps glaucoma can also lead people to do very jerky things to each other.

    Do we protect our brains and relationships, or live for ourselves? If use is about pleasure and escape, or even about interpersonal bonding, it still needs to be held up to the light of what Christ asks for us.

    Sending disciples out into towns to heal, cast out devils, and -oh, you might not want to bring along the crack.

    I faced a situation last night where I was in authority, and people who were using substances were disrupting what others were trying to accomplish. As one person among many, it was almost impossible to address.

    Years ago I worked in a restaurant, and had to pay out of pocket when munchy-bingers walked out on their bills, not even cognizant of what they were doing.

    Using may appear innocent, but plenty of offenses are generated when people are not clear-minded. Friends insult each other, promises are neglected, cars hit objects, babies are conceived, work gets backed up. It is not just a matter of killing brain cells and destroying nerves.

    It puts dents into relationships. It reinforces a self-based approach to living.

    If studying another religion, we might give up meat, fast for a month, speak only positive things... devote ourselves to making it work. That is religious practice. Christianity's freedom sometimes leads people to be totally lawless.

    Jesus' law is love. If everything comes under that umbrella, if the law is fulfilled in love, then we need to consider how deep the definition of love needs to go. Gushy... cozy... thoughtful... live-sacrificing.
     
  3. freeport

    freeport Guest


    :) In love everything is positive: anger, sadness, breaking the "Law".

    Morality is dynamic. Depends on if there is love behind it or not: are you really hoping and believing the best in people? Are you really wanting their better good?

    End motive, not static Law... what I like to call "Jack Bauer morality".

    Gushy is often yucky. Sometimes abstain, sometimes one must not abstain. Depends on the crowd. 'Be all things to all people to win all'. With the winning the key part.

    I hate being angry or hard with my kids, but sometimes I have to be. Sometimes I hate being too liberal with them, but sometimes I have to be.


    Love isn't about being gushy... it is - as I know Heron well knows - being effective towards an end goal.

    Someone here mentioned being a federal agent and busting people's heads open for using marijuana. Great. But does that save them? In other federal quarters undercover agents have to gain rapport with all sorts... and might try and manipulate them towards better choices.

    In Law there are options. The ultimate choice is 'what is good for everyone'. Sometimes the individual has to be punished for the better good for society. But, the individual always matters.

    I see people depending on seriously mind effecting and dangerous psychiatric medicine for the answer to their problems... hard for me to condemn marijuana use in light of that.
     
  4. capnator

    capnator Senior Member

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    My opinion is you can't trust your heart Jer 17:9 The heart [is] deceitful above all [things], and desperately wicked: who can know it?
     
  5. RozeFantom

    RozeFantom Newbie

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    If you believe it is wrong to pollute your body with alcohol than it is wrong to pollute your body with marijuana.
    It is scientifically proven that even a small amount of wine is more harmful and detrimental to the human body than marijuana.
    The body is gods sacred temple, if you can destroy it with one substance than any other substance is fair game as well.
    So if you believe alcohol is safe in gods eyes, than so is marijuana. Alcohol is a harmful drug and it is embraced.
    Avoid abuse, and keep recreational habits under control.

    Please see

    <youtube.com/watch?v=sknoKWsVlAA>

    For more information of the history of marijuana policies in the USA and the world.
     
  6. Macx

    Macx New Member

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    I am an anarchist . .. . just thought I'd put that out there up front.

    Smoking weed, no. . . . under natural law, not a sin. No compelling evidence in natural law points that way with a caveat. If we take it in issolation. Now if smoking weed impairs your ability to further the Kingdom (say you can't get a respectable job because you have drug charges on your record) then you have made yourself less useful to the Master. If you can do it without becoming a bad witness. . .. . go for it. If you are going to lead a brother or sister into sin because you can handle it and they can't. . . . . hold off. Do something else. There is that millstone scripture Matt 18:
    Do what you will when it only effects you, as soon as it effects others. . . . Christian responsibility trumps natural law.
     
  7. scrofford

    scrofford God Seeker

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    Could you see Jesus hitting the pipe or bong? I couldn't! If you couldn't see Jesus doing it, then why would you do it?
     
  8. Ave Maria

    Ave Maria Ave Maria Gratia Plena

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    I personally don't think it is a sin to enjoy the occasional joint so long as it is legal where you live. The reason? The Bible tells us to obey the law so it is a sin if you enjoy it at a place where it is illegal because you are breaking the law.
     
  9. christandisrael

    christandisrael Regular Member

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    It depends on what you are using it for.
     
  10. RozeFantom

    RozeFantom Newbie

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    Yes I could. It was not yet illegal in his time, and if it was available than it would probably have been consumed as often as a glass of wine.
     
  11. ephraimanesti

    ephraimanesti Senior Veteran

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    If you can imagine my Lord Jesus "hitting a bong"--i would have to conclude that you have not met Him yet.

    :bow:ABBA'S FOOL,
    ephraim
     
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    I personally believe that anything that are not neccesary for sustaining life that will entice you to become addicted and dependent, then it is a sin.

    Drugs, alcohol, prescription meds, etc.
     
  13. ephraimanesti

    ephraimanesti Senior Veteran

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    Yes, anything besides the Holy Spirit which you abuse intentionally in order to change or escape from reality is a sin.

    You could say the same thing about opium--is that okay too?

    Dog poop is also natural and a part of God's Creation. Do you go about collecting it and stuffing it into a pipe?

    It is not your "lungs" you should be worried about--it is your Heart. There is only room for ONE GOD there--and cannabis is not the best choice you could make. "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also." (Luke 12:24)

    WHO EXACTLY DO YOU SUPPOSE IS CONTROLLING YOUR HEART IN THIS MATTER? Do you REALLY hear God's Loving Voice in your ear whispering, "Yes, my son, by all means get high"? i think not!

    :bow:ABBA'S FOOL,
    ephraim
     
  14. bluegreysky

    bluegreysky I never fear 'cause I live fearless...

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    Well, that's what we call a "fine-line", even a "grey area". Why? Because many conservative and christian types that believe in the "absolutes" will scream loudly that it's bad
    Then many non-religious, more laid-back types like surfers and artists and musicians will give it a thumbs-up because its how they get in the zone with their inspirations, or how they break away from the stress of the everyday world.
    Some will say something in-between, like "only for medicine and that's all"
    God did make the plant for a reason I'm sure... but maybe not the one we came up with. Not positive.
    Ultimately, you have to decide.

    I'll tell you this... I used to do it. I used it with the justification that it killed the anxiety that was getting in the way of my college classes and social life. It seemed like a decent reason to use it.. and a few puffs twice a week wasn't so bad compared to those who do it all day, every day... but when my dad said "I used to do drugs they aren't smart, I don't want you to do it" I never did it again. It is great for medicinal purposes, but unless you have a prescription for 420 as your cancer-pain relief, it is illegal (at least around here).

    Now, I don't know a whole lot about the bible, but I do know that there's stuff in there that says "follow the laws of the land" basically... so technically speaking, you're breaking rules in 2 books, not just one.
    If you get caught by cops, you can go to jail and if a wizz-quiz comes up positive, you can get terminated from your job.
    It can really help with stress and to free your mind or help you feel inspiration better, but depending on your body, it can also slow your mental functions down and make you "stupid", make you over-eat, or who knows...
    There's just alot of risks involved

    Whether or not you want to decide based on moral approach is between you and God,
    but if nothing else, it can give you a criminal record and that will bite.
     
  15. southernlove

    southernlove Newbie

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    I look at it like this, It does no harm to your body other than inhaling smoke. It is non-addictive, and is actually beneficial to several aspects of your health, (I am in healthcare) Smoking cigarettes is very harmful on the other hand, so is that a sin? I know several Christians that smoke, but turn around and put down those that smoke marijuana. Hypocritical if you ask me. Anything is okay in moderation. Alcohol is not a sin, but in excess is harmful and worse than being on some drugs.
    Those that are addicted to drugs are running from a hurt they feel inside. We shouldn't be putting them down. That only makes them feel worse. They need to be shown love, instead. Its just like those that are over weight. They are just addicted to food instead. They hide their emotions behind eating. That, too, is harmful to the body.
    So I'm saying, in moderation it can't be bad. I feel God is merciful and forgives us for our sins, and using what he gave us to enjoy and relax with, is not a sin. Just because you are 'high' doesn't mean you are doing bad things. What about those that get drunk? What's the difference. your judgment is actually more impaired with alcohol.
     
  16. RozeFantom

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    The one I have been told of has drunk wine, and alcohol is more harmful to the human body than marijuana as well it is just as and some times more mind altering. Therefor I assume if Jesus had marijuana available it would have been used as often as alcohol was to him.
     
  17. RozeFantom

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    Remember being drunk or even tipsy is a mind alteration, and when your mind has been altered you are "high" whats the difference between alcohol and marijuana, other than the legality of it? especially when alcohol does more damage. More damage physically, more damage mentally, and more damage because of the results of actions people take when they are "high" or drunk of alcohol.
     
  18. ephraimanesti

    ephraimanesti Senior Veteran

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    MY FRIENDS,

    Based upon having grown, sold, and smoked weed for approximately 25 years of my life, and based upon my relationship with my Lord/God/Savior/and Brother Jesus Christ, i know without a doubt that what is being presented on this Thread as "facts" are actually just lies and distortions of the adversary and 180 degrees away from the Truth.

    Also based upon my personal experience as a cannabis user and with cannabis users, i know the futility of trying to convince them of the terrible spiritual error of what they are so intent on "enjoying."

    THEREFORE, doing what can be done:

    MY LORD, HAVE MERCY!

    MY LORD, HAVE MERCY!

    MY LORD, HAVE MERCY!​


    Lord God, our ABBA, i pray for those who have been deceived by the lies of the evil one regarding the "safety" and "desireability" of smoking weed. Open the eyes of their Hearts and show them the Truth and speak to them regarding YOUR WILL in this matter.

    i also, Lord God, ask you to protect the minds and Spirits of those who innocently read this Thread without knowledge or understanding and are tempted to practice the mind-and-Spirit-altering sin described therein. Speak to their Hearts and protect them from the alurements of the evil one.

    i ASK THIS IN THE HOLY NAME OF MY LORD JESUS--Amen!

    ephraim
     
  19. kellyc

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    amen ephraim!

    for several years i have worked with drug addicted people, and the majority of them graduated from alcohol to pot to crack over a very short period. any one of them would tell you that pot is an addiction, and that can't be good.

    i guess i'd like to know what is so good about being out of your mind? those who smoke pot regularly would deny they are out of their mind possibly, but they are not in a position to judge their own behavior when they are high. the 'pot giving me more creativity' thing makes me feel sad. again, the pot smoker is judging how creative and interesting they become, and honestly from the outside it is not that spectacular.
     
  20. christandisrael

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    You body is a temple of God. You get the picture.