Is homosexuality a sin?

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Jase

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You've been reading too many folk tales about Christian conservatives. Since when do we believe that men have one less rib than women?^_^
Hey, you believe the earth is only 6,000 years old - one less rib is hardly a stretch.

And if Adam and Eve were a metaphor, then so is Jesus for He came through that bloodline.
We know that humanity did not begin with 2 people, so take that however you want.
 
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Hey, you believe the earth is only 6,000 years old - one less rib is hardly a stretch.

An opinion of some monk somewhere long ago. Do you believe slime became humans by accident?

We know that humanity did not begin with 2 people, so take that however you want.

The Bible shows that God made people and made Adam in His garden. And then Eve for Adam. God's covenant was for these two. Geneticist Francis Collins (of the Human Genome Project) has a website www.biologos.org that has an article on this. Human DNA backs up the large population theory. The substance of the Bible is from Adam and Seth. All flows from there.

There are several themes running through the Bible and "seperating" out a people for God is one of them.
 
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Actually, Adam and Eve are a metaphor and weren't real. Men don't have 1 less rib than women, despite what many conservatives like to believe.

And as enemy pointed out, your argument poses a strong problem for celibates since they can't cleave to their husband or wife.
Adam was complete in himself, before Eve was taken out of him.

Problem solved.

Genesis 5:12
Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
 
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SMH. 16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. Tim 3:16-17

That is ALL Scripture. That means more than just the words in red are GOD's. Why on earth would a God who tells you that He is not the author of confusion...why would He stick His word that you can trust in with a bunch of words you can't trust? That's crazy.

It's ALL God's word. And it ALL points to Jesus who IS God.

Ergo . . . the Bible is perfect.
 
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Originally Posted by Zeena
Mark 10:6-8
But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

Sorry, I don't see any reference to gays in this passage, try again?

It proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, that there is no such thing to the Israelites or the Christians as same-sex marriage.

Otherwise marrying a beast of burden is OK using the "he didn't say anything about it," ploy.
 
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Hey, you believe the earth is only 6,000 years old - one less rib is hardly a stretch.
Talk about off topic! ^_^

God doesn't tell us how old the earth is [through the Bible], but rather, how old man is.

Matthew:1-17
The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren; And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram; And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon; And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse; And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias; And Solomon begat Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa; And Asa begat Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias; And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias; And Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat Josias; And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon: And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zorobabel; And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim; and Eliakim begat Azor; And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat Achim; and Achim begat Eliud; And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob; And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.
 
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Well, speaking as one of the people who voted "no"...I'm very passionate about holiness and purity and living a Godly life and being a disciple of Jesus with all that that entails.

I also, on prayerful study of the Bible, have come to the conclusion that homosexuality isn't a sin.

There's no conflict between the two positions.

David.

The creation of a different Gospel. The result of liberal theology. Can't say Jesus didn't warn us.
 
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Then please enlighten me on the good reasons to oppose a silent memorial to the victims of senseless murders.

When it is specifically towards homosexuals it becomes yet again, another recruitment and celebration technique. Include ridiculed Christians and Christian martyrs all over the world and call all students to come to Christian Clubs and to find Christian adults to guide them through the orientation process to learn about what it is to be a Christian. Even trying it out. Who knows, if you've never tried Christianity, maybe you'll like. Let the Christians pass out information pamphlets and Christian gear like crosses and other personal items. Let Christians teach about the history of Christians throughout the ages and even today that are tormented and killed because of their lifestyle.

The Day Of Silence in Public Schools and Universities for Persecuted and murdered Christians.

Get ready for the lawsuits.
 
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When it is specifically towards homosexuals it becomes yet again, another recruitment and celebration technique. Include ridiculed Christians and Christian martyrs all over the world and call all students to come to Christian Clubs and to find Christian adults to guide them through the orientation process to learn about what it is to be a Christian. Even trying it out. Who knows, if you've never tried Christianity, maybe you'll like. Let the Christians pass out information pamphlets and Christian gear like crosses and other personal items. Let Christians teach about the history of Christians throughout the ages and even today that are tormented and killed because of their lifestyle.

The Day Of Silence in Public Schools and Universities for Persecuted and murdered Christians.

Get ready for the lawsuits.

Why would there be lawsuits over something like that, if it were just as you describe? There are Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion in this country, and as long as the school is not directly responsible for any of the events described, it is not only not illegal, but beautiful.

But the Day of Silence does not even go as far as what you describe. It is simply a memorial to the dead. So again I ask, what are the good reasons for opposing such a memorial?

Yes the sponsoring groups do also, separately, sponsor other things, such as clubs where students who are gay, and others who are straight, but not afraid of the lies about seduction and recruitment to the so-called "gay lifestyle" can discuss many issues of vital interest to high-schoolers, plus a few of special interest to gay high-schoolers, including the societal disapproval that too many young people internalize (resulting in a high rate of suicides among gay teenagers) with the hope that by talking it out and discovering that they are not alone in their feelings, and are not evil just because of their orientation.

But how is that a threat to anyone?

Instead of demonizing these groups, try getting to know some of the people who are involved in them. Even if you think that what they teach is sin, get to know them and know just what it is they really stand for so you can correct them properly.

Jesus did not rail at the prostitutes and tax-collectors; He ate with them. He saved His railing for religious hypocrites like the Pharisees and the Temple merchants and money-changers.

Edited to add: I tried rephrasing that last paragraph several times to make it sound less offensive. I am not accusing anyone, other than the specific people to whom Jesus referred, of being hypocrites. But no matter how I phrase it, I can imagine someone taking it the wrong way and reporting me for calling them a hypocrite. I would have just left it out entirely, but I feel it is important to show how Jesus handled dealing with a despised minority of sinners.
 
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Talk about off topic! ^_^

God doesn't tell us how old the earth is [through the Bible], but rather, how old man is.

Matthew:1-17
The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren; And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram; And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon; And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse; And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias; And Solomon begat Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa; And Asa begat Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias; And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias; And Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat Josias; And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon: And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zorobabel; And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim; and Eliakim begat Azor; And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat Achim; and Achim begat Eliud; And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob; And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.
Makes it sort of difficult to explain all those people wandering around before all that
 
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When it is specifically towards homosexuals it becomes yet again, another recruitment and celebration technique. Include ridiculed Christians and Christian martyrs all over the world and call all students to come to Christian Clubs and to find Christian adults to guide them through the orientation process to learn about what it is to be a Christian. Even trying it out. Who knows, if you've never tried Christianity, maybe you'll like. Let the Christians pass out information pamphlets and Christian gear like crosses and other personal items. Let Christians teach about the history of Christians throughout the ages and even today that are tormented and killed because of their lifestyle.

The Day Of Silence in Public Schools and Universities for Persecuted and murdered Christians.

Get ready for the lawsuits.

Refresh my memory…when was the last time a child in the United States was murdered in school by another student just because he/she was a Christian?
 
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And this would be a lie. At no point does God advocate as RIGHT any marriage other than marriage between one man and his one wife.

He ALLOWED for some stuff, but just like divorce that He allows, it is STILL sinful.
God recognized and blessed polygamous marriages
If you don’t like that fact…take it up with God


The problem with not taking God at His word is that you'r eleft to create your own version of god that IS NOT God.
“You can safely assume you have created God in your own image when it turns out that he hates all the same people that you do.” --Annie Lamott
 
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Refresh my memory…when was the last time a child in the United States was murdered in school by another student just because he/she was a Christian?

COLUMBINE and many more.
 
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An opinion of some monk somewhere long ago. Do you believe slime became humans by accident?
One widely held by Christians in this country because of what that monk said.


The Bible shows that God made people and made Adam in His garden. And then Eve for Adam. God's covenant was for these two. Geneticist Francis Collins (of the Human Genome Project) has a website www.biologos.org that has an article on this. Human DNA backs up the large population theory. The substance of the Bible is from Adam and Seth. All flows from there.
Dr. Francis is a theistic evolutionist and does not believe that 2 human beings created all of humanity.
 
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Um no, they were murdered for being in the wrong clique (i.e. the popular people and jocks) - not because they were Christian. Christians are not persecuted in the US, and I find it disgusting that the persecution complex is so prevelant when there are real minorities being persecuted.
 
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