IF you die one day and found out that you didn't go to heaven or hell and that what the Bibble says is all wrong, wat will you do? Especially when you have devoted all your life into being a Christian!
ruixiangz said:IF you die one day and found out that you didn't go to heaven or hell and that what the Bibble says is all wrong, wat will you do? Especially when you have devoted all your life into being a Christian!
ruixiangz said:IF you die one day and found out that you didn't go to heaven or hell and that what the Bibble says is all wrong, wat will you do? Especially when you have devoted all your life into being a Christian!
didaskalos said:If you really do not believe in anything other than what goes on here in this life, then why are you on a website fussing with a bunch of nerds like us? I would be out partying or getting wasted or some other distraction. I cannot imagine what would stop me. I think I am smart enough to evade the law, and I assume most of you are too. So what are you doing here?
He was telling you what he was like as a non-believer. Most of us who came late to the party were the same! We know what it was like to be atheist or agnostic or "don't care". Now I hear the same stuff from non-believers that I said. So, really, except for the fun of talking to you guys, we remember what we used to think and don't need to ask.Pete Harcoff said:Why is it that some Christians think that atheists are nothing more than a bunch of self-serving degenerates? Maybe they have other sources of meaning in their lives? Maybe they have families to take care of? Maybe they realize there are responsibilities in this life, to themselves and others? Maybe you should talk to some atheists and find out what makes them tick, instead of assuming so much.
newlamb said:He was telling you what he was like as a non-believer.
Not at all Pete. I do remember what it was like to be an unbeliever. My projection was not toward you. I agree.... may of the atheists I have met have been good folks. My father was an atheist, and one of my best friends at work is an atheist. So this is not a stab at you. But the question remains, as do my memories. When I thought that all there was to life was an eventual dirt nap.. I felt very like I was missing out on a lot of stuff by being a "goodie two shoes". I used to party hardy. I mean why not? I respect your assertions that atheists have other sources for their self restraint... but I mean what is the point? In my old days... I would have looked at an atheist with morals in the same way I looked at a Christian: just another religious nut who is afraid of living.Pete Harcoff said:But it also sounded like he was trying to project, as well. The implication from his post seemed to be, "I was a degenerate when I was an atheist, then I found God and now I'm a better person. Since you're still atheists, you're probably degenerates too, and therefore not as good a person as me."
Maybe I'm reading too much into his post, but that is what I got from it.
didaskalos said:<snip>
I have started a number of threads in this forum asking just these questions:
Why bother being good in this life when there is so much to gain in the world by being bad... and nothing to lose in the end?
I have yet to receive an answer that did not eventually lapse into some sort of sappy-religion.
So my conclusion is that most intellectual atheists are bad guys who are just afraid to be bad. Scared to go all the way so they support their inhibitions with their own sort of intellectually derived religiosity.
ruixiangz said:IF you die one day and found out that you didn't go to heaven or hell and that what the Bibble says is all wrong, wat will you do? Especially when you have devoted all your life into being a Christian!
If the Bible is wrong, I'll be a dead fool and won't care.IF you die one day and found out that you didn't go to heaven or hell and that what the Bibble says is all wrong, wat will you do? Especially when you have devoted all your life into being a Christian!
Hi Rad. That's perfect!radorth said:If the Bible is wrong, I'll be a dead fool and won't care.