If Texas secedes from the U.S. ...

[Reneemo4]

Send em all up here to Canada...we take in everyone, anytime!!
LOL!!

 

[Virgil the Roman]

Know that all fifty states with the United State are each independent, sovereign republics in union with one another under the compact entitled, 'The Constitution of these united States.' It is a voluntary union; force should not be required to maintain a voluntary union that member-republic no longer wishes to remain apart of. If it was voluntary to join, it ought and is by right, voluntary to leave such a union. It is not treasonous to exercise one's natural and protected rights. It is part of the historical 'tradition' of America.

 

[Virgil the Roman]

Irene Adler: I love the Sherlock Holmes signature and screen-name of yours. As a fellow fan of Sherlock Holmes and good classical books, I salute you!


Most awesome, indeed!







Nota Bene: I am not a Texan; however, I do respect their sovereign rights to maintain their liberties and exercise their constitutional right to maintain the sovereignty with which they entered into the Union with. It is as the maxim upon the banner of Virginia's flag saith:

'Sic Semper Tyrannis!'
​

 

[IreneAdler]

Gotta love a woman who can out fox Sherlock Holmes lol, ty

plus, I like the idea of being thought of as being of "dubious and questionable memory" lol

 

[broken_one]

Know that all fifty states with the United State are each independent, sovereign republics in union with one another under the compact entitled, 'The Constitution of these united States.' It is a voluntary union; force should not be required to maintain a voluntary union that member-republic no longer wishes to remain apart of. If it was voluntary to join, it ought and is by right, voluntary to leave such a union. It is not treasonous to exercise one's natural and protected rights. It is part of the historical 'tradition' of America.

As previously stated, the "tradition" is also to clobber secessionists into submission....I don't see how that would change because it's Texas instead of Virginia.

Also, I don't believe you realize that dual federalism has not existed in America for about 80 years. That is almost a century: when America hasn't existed for even two and a half of those, it is quite a big deal. It is much easier to think of the United States today as a unitary government, with the states governing the areas on the behalf of the nation. Ironically after seeing what federal power has done in bringing certain *ahem* states into the 20th Century, I can't say that this system of "marble cake federalism" is something that is wrong or abominable (as a structure).

 

[Tink]

I don't know. Let's kick them out and see what happens.

YES!

Hey now!

Mean boys.

 

[Wren]

Hey now!

Mean boys.

You don't want to live in Texas forever, right? Maybe you could get refugee status and move to Colorado.

 

[IreneAdler]

Ack, who'd ever want to move from Texas? That's crazy talk... (of course what do you expect from a group of people who call a coke "pop")

 

[Virgil the Roman]

"Gotta love a woman who can out fox Sherlock Holmes."​

That I do!

 

[Virgil the Roman]

Ack, who'd ever want to move from Texas?

Liberals?

That's crazy talk...

Such is their diction, typically.

(of course what do you expect from a group of people who call a coke "pop")

I resemble that remark; hailing from the great state of Westsylvania!

 

[Touma]

Know that all fifty states with the United State are each independent, sovereign republics in union with one another under the compact entitled, 'The Constitution of these united States.' It is a voluntary union; force should not be required to maintain a voluntary union that member-republic no longer wishes to remain apart of. If it was voluntary to join, it ought and is by right, voluntary to leave such a union. It is not treasonous to exercise one's natural and protected rights. It is part of the historical 'tradition' of America.

No, you're terribly wrong if you think that. Poli Sci 101 will teach you that.

 

[Tink]

You don't want to live in Texas forever, right? Maybe you could get refugee status and move to Colorado.

Sweet! Chad, can I stay with you? I mean, do you have an extra room?

Ack, who'd ever want to move from Texas? That's crazy talk... (of course what do you expect from a group of people who call a coke "pop")

....people who don't like it? I don't call a "Coke" a pop, either. I call soda...soda, and you'll have to specify the brand.

Liberals?

I am not a liberal. Thanks, though.

 

[mjmcmillan]

I don't know if Texas would try it again. Seems this thing called "The Civil War" left something to remember it by as regards leaving the Union.

I have heard of a place that has seceded though. It's called the "Conch Republic" though most of us know it as "Key West". It makes for an interesting tale of frustration with the US government and what the people of the Keys did about it.

Welcome To The Conch Republic - Key West

 

[Verve]

Part of our state tried to secede into another state. That was a creepy mess.

 

[CrusaderKing]

Texas seceded from the Union in 1861. It didn't work out too well.

 

[IreneAdler]

And yet that wasn't a war over secession ultimately (or slavery), but commerce issues if the south had been allowed to secede

 

[IreneAdler]

In other words, I think the response of the government may be different as it would be one state, and it wouldn't be such an economic strain as it was perceived to be before

 

[Touma]

And yet that wasn't a war over secession ultimately (or slavery), but commerce issues if the south had been allowed to secede

Commerce issues? You mean the economically stronger North wanted to keep the weaker soft for commerce issues? I am pretty sure, that by reading speeches and the like of Lincoln and other top leaders, the North went to war to keep the Union intact, meaning the issue WAS secession.

 

[broken_one]

...and before the secession itself, the cause for it was slavery.

 

[IreneAdler]

I'm saying that the south, while not mechanized, was a major source of goods, yes.

And if you haven't noticed, what politicians say means very little as to what's actually going on (just look at our government for oh... our whole lives)