I have to wonder if the whole world isn't laughing at us

[Albion]

Oh, I don't know. Trump is a ridiculously offense guy, when he's not being a clownish buffoon.

On the other hand, simply the fact that he's an American and not a Marxist would be sufficient to produce that kind of attack from you.

 

[David Brider]

It was President Obama that was being disrespected, and in essence, this entire nation was made a laughing stock, for the world to see.

It was painful to watch.

When Obama became President, most of the people I know breathed a sigh of relief that after eight years of Bush Jr you folks had finally elected someone sensible and lebel headed.

The recent thing where the Phillipine leader called Obama something rude...well, that reflects worse on the Phillipine guy than it does on Obama...

 

[David Brider]

On the other hand, simply the fact that he's an American and not a Marxist would be sufficient to produce that kind of attack from you.

No, it's the fact that he's a clownish buffoon that makes me think that he's a clownish buffoon. Nothing to do with him being an American. I know many Americans who very intelligent, erudite people.

 

[sarah_beloved]

too worried to laugh

 

[brinny]

When Obama became President, most of the people I know breathed a sigh of relief that after eight years of Bush Jr you folks had finally elected someone sensible and lebel headed.

The recent thing where the Phillipine leader called Obama something rude...well, that reflects worse on the Phillipine guy than it does on Obama...

Are these people still breathing a sigh of relief?

Back to this country being a laughing stock...

It was President Obama that got snubbed by the Chinese and who essentially got cussed out by the Philippine President.

Makes one wonder just how many world-over are contemptuous towards our President, and essentially us, the Americans.

Like i said, it was painful to watch.

 

[Albion]

No, it's the fact that he's a clownish buffoon that makes me think that he's a clownish buffoon. Nothing to do with him being an American. .

Well, you know how the old saying goes--"Those who can, do. Those who can't, try to act important by attacking people in other countries."

 

[brinny]

No, it's the fact that he's a clownish buffoon that makes me think that he's a clownish buffoon. Nothing to do with him being an American. I know many Americans who very intelligent, erudite people.

it seems the only clownish buffoon was our President, being treated like one, for all the world to see.

 

[JCFantasy23]

Does it ever occur to any of you that the whole world may be laughing at us? Do you ever look to past Presidents, and wonder how it came to be that Trump and Hillary are the two main choices? Does anyone out there see this as an almost impossibly ridiculous situation?

I'm asking myself how this happened, and why ...

Sure, because I'm laughing at us too

 

[iluvatar5150]

You know, it's all good campaign propaganda to say that Trump has an itchy finger, but he's campaigned constantly on being a problem solver WITHOUT the use of war, of using international cooperation in order to advance our interests instead of blowing the heck out of them like Hillary wants to do and has done. In other words, the claim is ridiculous.

And yet, he wants to fund more military equipment and he's virtually incapable of restraining himself when slighted. It's one thing to talk about not wanting to use the military; it's another to actually display some level of thoughtful restraint in your daily life.

Back to this country being a laughing stock...

It was President Obama that got snubbed by the Chinese and who essentially got cussed out by the Philippine President.

Makes one wonder just how many world-over are contemptuous towards our President, and essentially us, the Americans.

Like i said, it was painful to watch.

Painful in what way? This guy in the Phillipines is an immature jackass who comes across a lot like Trump.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ings-philippines-president-has-said/89901216/

His cussing out the leader of the free world makes him look bad, not Obama. Notice that he then apologized after Obama canceled their meeting.

 

[wing2000]

It was President Obama that was being disrespected, and in essence, this entire nation was made a laughing stock, for the world to see.

It was painful to watch.

What will a President Trump do when the Chinese continue to buzz U.S. Navy ships and aircraft?

 

[David Brider]

Are these people still breathing a sigh of relief?

No, but that's because we're coming to the end of his presidency now, instead of at the beginning of it. However, generally speaking, they regard Obama's Presidency as having been a good thing, even if it didn't necessarily live up to the initial promise of hope and change.

Back to this country being a laughing stock...

Which it isn't, from what I can see.

It was President Obama that got snubbed by the Chinese and who essentially got cussed out by the Philippine President.

I honestly don't know anything about the Chinese snub thing (got a link to a news article about it?). As far as the Philippine President thing, like I said - calling someone (IIRC) a "son of a harlot" reflects worse on him than it does on Obama. National leaders shouldn't really be using that sort of language about their peers.

Makes one wonder just how many world-over are contemptuous towards our President, and essentially us, the Americans.

How many people are contemptous towards Obama? Don't know. Probably quite a few. Nobody can please everybody.

But contempt for the president doesn't equate to contempt for the people who live in the country he's president of. I had zero time for Bush, Jr., but I fully realised that he didn't meaningfully represent all Americans, not even those who'd voted for him.

Like i said, it was painful to watch.

It shouldn't have been.

 

[David Brider]

Well, you know how the old saying goes--"Those who can, do. Those who can't, try to act important by attacking people in other countries."

Qué?

 

[David Brider]

it seems the only clownish buffoon was our President, being treated like one, for all the world to see.

Obama seems to have been behaving very well during his tenure as President, not like a clownish buffoon at all.

 

[Albion]

Qué?

Ah. Another Fawlty Towers fan!

 

[brinny]

No, but that's because we're coming to the end of his presidency now, instead of at the beginning of it. However, generally speaking, they regard Obama's Presidency as having been a good thing, even if it didn't necessarily live up to the initial promise of hope and change.



Which it isn't, from what I can see.



I honestly don't know anything about the Chinese snub thing (got a link to a news article about it?). As far as the Philippine President thing, like I said - calling someone (IIRC) a "son of a harlot" reflects worse on him than it does on Obama. National leaders shouldn't really be using that sort of language about their peers.



How many people are contemptous towards Obama? Don't know. Probably quite a few. Nobody can please everybody.

But contempt for the president doesn't equate to contempt for the people who live in the country he's president of. I had zero time for Bush, Jr., but I fully realised that he didn't meaningfully represent all Americans, not even those who'd voted for him.



It shouldn't have been.

Google the Chinese snub thing...it's all over the internet. Then there's the Chinese officials arguing with and yelling at our President's staff, saying something to the effect of 'this is our country, not yours...' etc. and then the Philippine President calling our President the son of a harlot, and saying 'who does he think he is' about President Obama.

Our President represents us, the American people. His credibility means much. The disrespect shown to him, means much. it is our PRESIDENT who reflects this nation and the people. Any disrespect shown him, and especially shown so blatantly and publicly is akin to disrespecting the nation this President represents.

Yes, it was painful to watch, especially when the President of the Philippines calling our President the son of a harlot, etc.

 

[brinny]

Obama seems to have been behaving very well during his tenure as President, not like a clownish buffoon at all.

There may be some who disagree with you.

He was, in essence, treated like a clownish buffoon for all the world to see.

No wonder our nation is seen as a bunch o' buffoons.

 

[The Cadet]

When citizens of other countries go on about us not electing a president that they don't respect, what they really mean is that they want more of what they have now--an ineffective incompetent who will not try to lead them in any way. I realyi doubt that Trump, whatever one thinks of his policies or governmental experience, will not be another President Milquetoast whom no one overseas takes seriously.

Everything about this is completely counterfactual. People appreciate and respect Obama. He's been miles better than the last guy. You can blame that on them wanting an "ineffective incompetent" all you want, but keep in mind that this includes our allies as well. Places like Great Britain, Germany, most of western Europe really. Meanwhile, the whole world is freaking out because America, with its giant footprint, has nominated a complete moron, who happens to be running a scarily populist campaign with a core message of "America First" and "Throw out all the illegals and muslims". He probably wouldn't be milquetoast, but he probably would be a diplomatic disaster, if his forays thus far (getting into a twitter war with the president of Mexico, threatening to blow up NATO, his spat with David Cameron) are any indication.

You know, it's all good campaign propaganda to say that Trump has an itchy finger, but he's campaigned constantly on being a problem solver WITHOUT the use of war, of using international cooperation in order to advance our interests instead of blowing the heck out of them like Hillary wants to do and has done. In other words, the claim is ridiculous.

What was his plan on ISIS? Well, unclear, he changes it every five minutes, but he's pretty clearly advocated, and I quote, "Bombing the crap out of them". How would he finance this? "Take their oil". How would we do that? Leave troops there indefinitely. It's easy to say, "No more war". It's also easy for most people to not immediately strike back at a target like a gold star family. Trump can talk a good talk about being "peaceful" all he wants; until he shows a basic modicum of temperament, I'm not buying it, and neither should any intelligent person. He has a long track record of being vindictive and petty.

On the other hand, simply the fact that he's an American and not a Marxist would be sufficient to produce that kind of attack from you.

We haven't had a marxist president since at least World War II. This is just pure fantasy on your part.

 

[Oafman]

When citizens of other countries go on about us not electing a president that they don't respect, what they really mean is that they want more of what they have now--an ineffective incompetent who will not try to lead them in any way

No, it means we want a POTUS who will make an apocalypse less likely, rather than more likely.

And yes, the free world does want America to lead on many issues, but to also listen to them and work with them in the process. We do not want American unilateralism.

Crucially, the President must be a skilled diplomat. Not some emotional hothead. That specific point is the main reason most of the world is hoping for Hillary.

 

[brinny]

No, it means we want a POTUS who will make an apocalypse less likely, rather than more likely.

And yes, the free world does want America to lead on many issues, but to also listen to them and work with them in the process. We do not want American unilateralism.

Crucially, the President must be a skilled diplomat. Not some emotional hothead. That specific point is the main reason most of the world is hoping for Hillary.

You consider Hillary Clinton to be a skilled diplomat? And you believe that most of the world is hoping that Hillary Clinton is the next President of the USA?

Who, specifically, were you thinking of (which countries) that would want Hillary Clinton to be the next President?

 

[tatteredsoul]

I don't normally participate in the political forum, but I see nearly all of the "most replies today" are from this area. I popped in and glanced at a few threads.

Does it ever occur to any of you that the whole world may be laughing at us? Do you ever look to past Presidents, and wonder how it came to be that Trump and Hillary are the two main choices? Does anyone out there see this as an almost impossibly ridiculous situation?

I'm asking myself how this happened, and why ...

Especially considering Trump was the laughing stock candidate in 2012, and Carly Figorina, Hermann Cain, Jeb Bush and Mitt Romney were chosen to represent the party over him. Even the people laughed at Trump as a candidate.

Now, four years later he is the savior.

Hillary just represents the dual monarchy that has been operating the United States for almost 30 years.


The entire world is laughing at the States, have been, and are distancing themselves from the States - especially with the police killings and racism. The world really roasts America for that.