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Neither you nor I can prove nor disprove that "natural" does not require the "supernatural".

That is why your quote is irrelevant.

No, that's actually why his quote is relevant. The fact that neither you nor him, nor I, nor anyone, can prove or disprove this quote means that is requires faith to hold either stance.
 
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No, that's actually why his quote is relevant. The fact that neither you nor him, nor I, nor anyone, can prove or disprove this quote means that is requires faith to hold either stance.

You are equating natural faith (I point a gun at your head and you have faith it will hurt, if it hits you) and supernatural faith (*insert any assumption you want*).

Diluting things past the point of them having any meaning gets us nowhere.
 
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Unless you know for an absolute fact that a Creator does not exist, you can only believe that to be true. It is a belief.

Are you saying a processed though is a belief?

I can have "beliefs" about statements made, without having to either believe or not believe in the content of the statements.
 
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