Huckabee angers some Catholics

[Rochir]

I will tell you why not. My Catholic brothers and sisters...it is very serious business to vote for anyone who endorses abortion...They can actually be excommunicated for it, not that the Pope or Bishops have a secret police finding out who is voting for Pro-Choice candidates. However, I do want to point out that it is no light thing to Catholics.

Lisa

As you say - there are Catholics who will vote for a Pro-Choice candidate. That's different from only endorsing abortion!

But that's a whole different debate and not for here!

 

[Rochir]

If Huckabee is representing all Americans then will he be visiting some other religions' worship services? Following the logic...

Actually, he should do exactly that!

Or are Muslims, Buddists, Hindu etc. not Americans as well?

 

[Lisa0315]

As you say - there are Catholics who will vote for a Pro-Choice candidate. That's different from only endorsing abortion!

But that's a whole different debate and not for here!

I agree that it is quite a different debate. I won't argue that here. I just wanted you to understand that it is kind of a big deal for devout Catholics.

Those who are out of communion and rarely darken the door of the church perhaps may not worry so much about disobeying the directives of the Pope much less Scripture.

Lisa

 

[Thirst_For_Knowledge]

Don't give up on him guys. I am sorry that it happened, but on the issues that unite us all, he is the ONLY candidate that we can vote for.

If it came down to it and Huckabee said he was anti-Catholic but still held his ground on abortion and gay marriage, wouldn't it be better to swallow the insult and insure the morality of this country?

I understand. I sympathize. I truly do. If the shoe were on the other foot, I might feel as you do as well, but please, please look at the bigger picture.

You may get someone who is quite sympathetic to Catholics, but they could also be very liberal on the social issues as well.

Lisa

Where do you get the idea that gay marriage and abortion are the things that unite you all? You do realize he is also pro-death penalty. Why isn't thar the issue that unites Christians against Huckabee?

Where did you ever get the idea that God only cares about abortion and gay marriage, and wants you to vote simply on those issues? If those issues are important to you, fine, but when you say they should be the most important issues for everyone, you're basically saying that God has told you this, and I highly doubt that is the case.

 

[MrJim]

Where did you ever get the idea that God only cares about abortion and gay marriage,

...guns, don't forget guns...

 

[Lisa0315]

Where do you get the idea that gay marriage and abortion are the things that unite you all? You do realize he is also pro-death penalty. Why isn't thar the issue that unites Christians against Huckabee?

Where did you ever get the idea that God only cares about abortion and gay marriage, and wants you to vote simply on those issues? If those issues are important to you, fine, but when you say they should be the most important issues for everyone, you're basically saying that God has told you this, and I highly doubt that is the case.

Sorry, I don't play the 2+2=5 game.

There is nothing in my posts that signifies what you have written here.

Carry on as you were.

Lisa

 

[Franze]

If I could vote, I would vote for Ron Paul, it´s the best option, clearly, less immigration, a humble foreign politics. And respect clearly my catholic convictions, not use like the republicans or destroy like democrats.

 

[Lisa0315]

If I could vote, I would vote for Ron Paul, it´s the best option, clearly, less immigration, a humble foreign politics. And respect clearly my catholic convictions, not use like the republicans or destroy like democrats.

That is another option and I forgot about him. The point is that we have to vote for the man that God would raise up for us that will to the best of his ability lead this country down a righteous path.

Tell me more about Ron Paul. I know quite a bit about Huckabee, but I am interested in hearing more about Mr. Paul.

Lisa

 

[Trevorocity]

That is another option and I forgot about him. The point is that we have to vote for the man that God would raise up for us that will to the best of his ability lead this country down a righteous path.

Tell me more about Ron Paul. I know quite a bit about Huckabee, but I am interested in hearing more about Mr. Paul.

Lisa

Yeah vote for Ron Paul! You'll still lose but at least you didn't vote for a candidate that supported abortion. Man I'd like a slice of pizza right about now.

If it gives you any more confidence in Huckabee he has as of late, been courting the Christian Reconstructionist movement. They of course believe in forcing people to conform to Biblical laws (which ones exactly haven't really been decided yet). Now they will stone gays and women who attempt to think about having an abortion (just like you apparently want), but I'm afraid they don't think Catholics are "true Christians" either so you may find yourself being stoned as well. Maybe if you convert that won't happen.

The threshold for me will be if that Federal Marriage Amendment ever becomes part of the Constitution. Then I'll be moving up to Canada and seek political refugee status.

 

[flicka]

My extended Catholic family is very liberal and will most likely be voting Democrat. Again. They are they type who live their faith while wanting good political leadership for the country. Imposing their faith is the farthest thing on their minds and they are NOT single issue people. It's funny how some Catholics don't realize this is happening all over. But my family is very well educated and intelligent, and I can't comment on anyone else.

 

[Trevorocity]

Imposing their faith is the farthest thing on their minds and they are NOT single issue people. It's funny how some Catholics don't realize this is happening all over.

History alone should make them think twice. Faith CANNOT be imposed anyway. When religions start talking about holding a gun to your head to make you obey they've already missed the point.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSN2326769820071223

Looks like I'll have to reconsider voting for Huckabee. I may not vote for him if he chooses to continue this behavior.

I dont see what the big deal is.I though we were supose to vote on there political skills and whether he'll make a good President or not.

 

[Jacey]

Go ahead, keep voting just on the basis of abortion. Look how many times Bush the Lesser has tried to overthrow abortion laws in the last seven years.

 

[flicka]

Go ahead, keep voting just on the basis of abortion. Look how many times Bush the Lesser has tried to overthrow abortion laws in the last seven years.

The reason people vote single issues is becasue it's so simple and no thinking is involved.

 

[Lisa0315]

The reason people vote single issues is becasue it's so simple and no thinking is involved.

I find that insulting. I vote for the candidate whose stand on the issues most closely matches my own. I would imagine that most Americans do.

Exactly how do you choose a candidate?

Lisa

 

[Thirst_For_Knowledge]

Sorry, I don't play the 2+2=5 game.

There is nothing in my posts that signifies what you have written here.

Carry on as you were.

Lisa

Please, don't carry on like you don't know what you said.

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Don't give up on him guys. I am sorry that it happened, but on the issues that unite us all, he is the ONLY candidate that we can vote for.

If it came down to it and Huckabee said he was anti-Catholic but still held his ground on abortion and gay marriage, wouldn't it be better to swallow the insult and insure the morality of this country?

I understand. I sympathize. I truly do. If the shoe were on the other foot, I might feel as you do as well, but please, please look at the bigger picture.

You may get someone who is quite sympathetic to Catholics, but they could also be very liberal on the social issues as well.

Lisa

You either work for Huckabee, or my point stands.

 

[Thirst_For_Knowledge]

I find that insulting. I vote for the candidate whose stand on the issues most closely matches my own. I would imagine that most Americans do.

Exactly how do you choose a candidate?

Lisa

I choose my candidate by the policies they can change.

In my first year of polisci, I learned that Huckabee can't make an amednment regarding abortion.

It's amazing what an education can do for you.

 

[Ave Maria]

I find that insulting. I vote for the candidate whose stand on the issues most closely matches my own. I would imagine that most Americans do.

Exactly how do you choose a candidate?

Lisa

I also vote this way but a candidates stand on abortion plays a big part in how I vote.

 

[Phylogeny]

Abortion is not a huge issue with me....mostly because stuff like foreign policy, war and social programs will affect more children and babies than any abortion policy every will.

A prolife president isn't going to be more likely to save AIDS ridden children in Africa or bring more food to starving children in North Korea, so it makes no sense to base a person's presidency on something that has little bearing on saving the lives of innocent young lives. I have no seen no proof that the pro-life politicians have been saving more babies from death, disease or hunger in this country or any other simply because they want to put more restrictions on abortion laws.

As for Catholics, traditionally they have voted Democrat for economic reasons, but now are split evenly between the two parties for social reasons. For every Catholic that I know who is prolife, I have known Catholics who are anti-death penalty, pro-environment, serious advocates of social justice. Catholics are hardly a monolithic group and their values are spread across the political spectrum.

 

[Trevorocity]

Go ahead, keep voting just on the basis of abortion. Look how many times Bush the Lesser has tried to overthrow abortion laws in the last seven years.

You mean all of Zilch times? Because his stance on abortion was just to trick single-issue voters into thinking he actually cared about their single-issue?