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How should we prepare ourselves to be martyrs?

Discussion in 'Christian Persecution' started by peachyme, Aug 26, 2010.

  1. LifebyChrist

    LifebyChrist Take heart

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    Please listen for a moment if you will because I see you really are trying and I want to offer you some advice.

    Romans 3:23 "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,"

    Romans 3:10 "As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one;"

    What you are asking is not required and here is why,

    1 John 1:10 "If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives."

    If you could be a saint on your own, this is making the death of Christ quite unnecessary, that is like saying, no no Jesus you did not have to shed your blood and die a horrible death on the cross for me, because I can make myself perfect through my own suffering.

    God sent his son to die for you! He died so you can live!

    John 10:10 "The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full."

    Isaiah 53:5 "But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed."

    This man who was beaten, mocked, hated and crucified. Jesus was blameless, he was a perfect man, flawless and without sin.

    John 1:14 "The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth."

    The Word! God's Word which is in the Bible.

    So to prepare yourself do this, read the Bible and pray.

    Learn how to pray according to the Bible, learn to pray in the Spirit.

    John 16:13 "But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come."

    Now then how can you be a martyr you ask?

    James 1:27 "Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world."

    If you see somebody who looks lonely, perhaps be a friend to them.

    If you see a bully, put a stop to it and stand up for what you believe in.

    Don't cower away from your faith and give in to the world, for we will all die someday and they know it not.

    You must love your neighbor as yourself, when you see somebody hurting put yourself in that place.

    Don't love people because they are lovable because they are not always lovable, people can be very hard to deal with and can be quite selfish at times.

    Love people because God loved you first, because while you, still a sinner, God sent his one and only son to die on a cross just for you. If you were the only one who needed it, I am sure God still would have died for you. God died for you and you now must die to your sinful self.

    You can now live in safety and freedom by faith in God, you are by no means perfect, none of us are. This is why we need the blood of Jesus to make us clean, we need the Holy Spirit and God's word ingrained into our hearts to truly become the children he desires us to be.

    God is not out to take away from your life, and another thing Jesus says

    Matthew 6:34 "Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."

    Just if you see an opening to help someone go for it :) You have nothing to lose, sure they could just throw it back in your face but you have nothing to lose and everything to gain from it.

    If you are confused about anything to not hesitate to ask God for guidance and wisdom as well.

    James 1:5 "If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you."

    I strongly recommend you read the book of James and anybody who is serious about being a Christian, I recommend you read the book of James to add to your studies or to simply refresh your memory.

    Reading Psalm 23 may also assist and aid you alot.
     
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  2. ablevr

    ablevr Guest

    I love the thread you got going here! I think believers will always have good arguments as to when during the tribulation God will bring His people home. I'm not sure that will ever be settled till Jesus is here. But I do have to comment on the post that said that the government will never let Christianity be outlawed. It's my opinion that the government is doing everything it can to outlaw Christianity. I'd love to have such a view of our government so enlighten me, please.
     
  3. paul1149

    paul1149 that your faith might rest in the power of God Supporter

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    Someone here commented that they would rather live for Christ than die for Him. And sometimes, that may be the harder thing to do. But spiritually, they're essentially the same. Paul said, "It is no longer I who live, but Christ lives within me" (Gal 2.20), and "I die daily". And Jesus said that those who come after Him must take up their own cross daily (lk 9.23). There's an element of laying down our will - dying to self-interest - that the Christian must make sure he is in compliance with. We don't know if or when we'll be called on to make the ultimate sacrifice, but placing the Lord's will above our own is a spiritual quality that we need to be nurturing right now.

    Blessings,
    p.
     
  4. ManFromUncle

    ManFromUncle Guest

    pray, fast, and continue to live as He did. Continue to speak all truth fearlessly.
     
  5. Karpalokuu

    Karpalokuu Newbie

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    I think the best thing to do is to seek for God, believe in him and just keep on praying and worshipping. be a christian, believe in it and live it. That is what I think will matter then.
     
  6. OzSpen

    OzSpen Regular Member

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    See #27 below
     
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  7. OzSpen

    OzSpen Regular Member

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    Peachyme,
    To prepare for persecution, keep your faith "hot" in Jesus. Keep close to Him and foster your relationship through prayer and reading the Word. For times of persecution, we need the body of Christ. I urge you to be an active member of a local church and engage in regular fellowship with other believers. We need one another.

    As to pre- or post-tribulation rapture, two views of eschatology influenced the church through its history until 1826. These views were:

    (1) Historic premillennialism (that includes a post-tribulation rapture). that is presented in the book edited by Craig Blomberg and Sun Wook Chung, The Case for Historic Premillennialism: An Alternative to “Left Behind” Theology (Baker Books 2009). Here is a review. I’m of the view that this position best represents the biblical material. One of the leading advocated of historic premillennialism has been the late George Eldon Ladd. His commentary on the Book of Revelation concludes in favour of an historic premillennial position. His view of eschatology is expounded in, The Blessed Hope.

    (2) Amillennialism.

    Then in 1826, J. N. Darby, the founder of the Plymouth Brethren, introduced a new view of the rapture, pre-tribulation premillennial dispensationalism. Until the time of J. N. Darby, in the first 1800 years of the church, to my knowledge, the pre-trib rapture was not known. Now it has become the dominant view in evangelical, dispensational circles. C. I. Schofield's reference Bible has been very influential in spreading this view and then comes the Tim LaHaye, "Left Behind" series.

    See my brief article in support of post-tribulation, historic premillennialism.

    Sincerely, Oz
     
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  8. akaspooky

    akaspooky Newbie

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    Rapture... Jesus says He will keep the Church of Brotherly Love from the Great Tribulation... John himself is our best human teacher of what love is... which is why he's chosen to be the teller of Revelation. And Paul's 7 Churches pretty much match up with Revelation's Churches... they're all Paul's in Asia. And Acts 15's letter matches what Jesus says about what the Churches went ahead and did anyway... sexual immorality and idolatry -- they're physical and spiritual halves of adultery.

    Losing faith in the end... not possible to lose what was never yours to keep. Jesus says nothing will take us out of their Hands... can't lose what you never earned. Faith itself is a gift of God... you either have it or you don't.

    Martyrs means witnesses. Only the 144k Hebrews will get beheaded... as the first Century Church was mostly Hebrew. Smyrna is those souls under the altar... the Roman and apparently Jewish persecutions. And in the end times, they will be persecuted by their brother Jews again... we see them today in Philadelphia's Church, busily Judaizing and stuff, just like Jesus says in Matthew 23... and as the Prophets all say, actually.

    The Holy Spirit, Who began His OWN good work in you, will complete it without your help, too. It's not up to you to do anything but believe the Gospel and the Doctrines Paul wrote down for us.
     
  9. akaspooky

    akaspooky Newbie

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    Revelation 13v15 -- Solomon's Temple will be rebuilt... it's the reason for the number... can't serve God and mammon.

    Rev 3v10 -- Has already happened.

    Rev 6v9 -- 144k will be killed just like their kin were in above verse... it's the reason for the name.

    Rev 12v10 -- The male Child, and those who will rule with a rod of iron along with Him (Rev.2v27), were caught up to Heaven early in this Chapter (Col.2v12) and Body and Head are physically united in Heaven. There's neither room nor reason for Satan to be in Heaven any longer at that point... Jesus only ever advocated for His Christians. Christians will take his place in Heaven, and Hebrews will take his place on earth.

    Rev 13v5 -- Which ever Bible version you're using is letting you down. "And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His Name, and His tabernacle, and them that dwell in Heaven." The Church is not the tabernacle... we see the tabernacle in Revelation 15v5.

    Rev 14v8 -- These are the 144k since they keep the commandments... later on we see that they have the song of Moses, as well... and we see that the Spirit is somewhere else apart from them so they're not Christians.
     
  10. pitseleh

    pitseleh up on the roof staring at the stars.

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    I'm not going to be a martyr. I think I'm going to be an overcomer. I'm in a rough position with money and food right now. So, I think I'm being prepared.

    I believe in a mid-trib Rapture. BTW. But, if God asked me to stay. I would.
     
  11. Ruta

    Ruta Newbie

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    The bible makes it very clear that the revival then the rapture will come and then the tribulation. Breath.... dont worry God is in total control. I now believe that Satan has no control but he does have power. How could God be in total control and yet not have all control? Yes this world is so evil but... As long as you trust God and are totally sincere you have nothing to worry. With saying that God does want a harvest of souls and to change this world. He wants your focus on him and his heaven. That is how you become a martyr focus on heaven and the cross. My advice get a active friend who lives in the persecuted church , keep contact. I have a asian friend from Mumbai and he carries his cross he is a real encouragement to me , he preaches with his friends and church to villages in India and the slums. May you be encouraged greatly in your journey. Peace. Ruta
     
  12. brittany111

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    Would you mind sharing a source for this?

    I think the question isn't so much how to prepare yourself to be a martyer, but to be persecuted. (Many American Christians-myself included have little experience with being persecuted for our faith.)

    Interesting point of view never heard that before.

    My advice is to simply continue persuing the Lord in Bible study, prayer and worship (which we should be doing anyway.) Press closer and closer to Him, he will hold onto you!

    I also advise you to memorize scripture. I have not studied the tribulation enough to know if we will still be here or not, but if we are we will need to stand on God's Word. How can we if we don't know His word?
     
  13. alive2Christ

    alive2Christ Newbie

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    While I absolutely agree with what you say,my thoughts on it are;

    Don't worry about memorising the word because I have trouble memorising words which is why I can't sing since I don't remember the words to any song(not all the way through, anyway) but with scripture, I find that when I need it it pops into my head.Iis obviously vital that you read them to get them into your head (and heart) in the first place but I don't worry that I can't remember 'till it's needed.

    King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
    Luke 12:11
    And when they bring you unto the synagogues, and unto magistrates, and powers,
    take ye no thought how or what thing ye shall answer, or what ye shall say:
    For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say.
     
  14. OzSpen

    OzSpen Regular Member

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    It varies from person to person as to how well we memorise. I was able to do it well enough when studying for my MA and now PhD. If it can work for my degrees, why can't it work for memorising Scripture?

    My wife has memorised the entire Book of Romans, Hebrews, Ephesians, Philippians 1 & 2 Peter, and 1 John in the NIV. She is amazing and she is aged in her 60s. It can be done if we set our minds to it. She has to be constantly testing herself and going over these books - again and again.

    While we must rely on the Holy Spirit's ministry, that should not stop us from hiding God's word in our hearts/minds.

    Psalm 119:9-16 states:
    Memorising Scripture is a practical way to hide God's Word in our hearts.

    Sincerely, Oz
     
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  15. Heather Pearce

    Heather Pearce Newbie

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    I too believe the End Times are near, but I don't think martyrdom is something that is easily prepared for. I hope that we are all - not just Christians but humanity in general - spared the pain and terror of what may come in our lifetime, and that when faced with the prospect of death we are are filled withthe Spirit and Strength of God to endure and remain steadfast.
     
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