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How do I stop doubting God's existence? (very serious question)

Discussion in 'Christian Advice' started by 1LifeToLive1SoulToGive, Mar 28, 2011.

  1. 1LifeToLive1SoulToGive

    1LifeToLive1SoulToGive Newbie

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    Recently, Ive been feeling really down in the dumps, and my faith is suffering. The cause of my near-depression is because I keep doubting the Lord's existence, and I'm scared if I keep this up I'll go to Hell, which is my #1 fear in the entire world.
    I honestly 100% believe God exists, and that Jesus died for our sins, and that there is a Heaven and Hell, but one day this nagging voice in the back of my mind kept saying "God doesn't exist" and "You're stupid for believing in Christianity", and since then I've been dealing with this, and I know its the Devil trying to get me on his side, but I don't want to be on his side. I want to be with God.
    One day I even thought "You have to let go of the one's you love the most, so God, I'm letting you go." The day I thought that was the day I knew that this was a serious issue. Not to long ago I was watching a Christian TV show about a man talking about headlines and the how it relates to the End Times, and halfway through I busted out crying because he was talking about how amazing the Rapture will be and how it should give us hope, but I felt (and at times still feel) that I'm going to be left behind in the Rapture, and maybe not even go to Heaven at all because of my thoughts and doubt.
    Now sometimes when I think something negative, my mind applies it to God (Like if I say, "I hate bananas" a thought echoes in my mind saying "Just like you hate God), but when I say something positive, like "God is good" my mind just replies "Yes He is." Why is that??
    There are some days when I feel wonderful and full of faith and love for the Lord, and other days when I would rather die than go through the mental torture I go through. I hate the way I feel and myself when I doubt God and think destructive thoughts towards Him and His kingdom, and on those days I can't concentrate on anything: My school work, my teachers, even a conversation becomes to much for me.
    I've been praying for God to deliver me from this, but one morning on the radio I heard Dr. Charles Stanley say a bible verse about doubters being like "Double-minded heathens" and how God doesn't have to answer to them. Lately I've been putting my problems into God's hands, and it lifted a tremendous weight off my shoulders, but the problem still isn't solved, and I fear God can't forgive/save someone who would do something so terrible as to doubt Him, even if I have accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior prior (and after) this.
    What are some practical, biblical, scriptural ways to ask God to give me the strength overcome my biggest demon: My mind?
     
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  2. foodiepeep

    foodiepeep Newbie

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    I feel the exact same way you do- only my intrusive doubts and thoughts (from my severe OCD) concern losing my salvation due to being unbiblically divorced. The problem is that no one (human) CAN truly reassure any of us that "God exists" or that I "won't be eternally condemned because of my choice to sin so grievously"...We simply have to learn how to apply the concept of FAITH back into the equation.

    It's about "believing something" often regardless of having no tangle proof. Also, I think that regaining that faith is most definitely a process, an actual VERB...not a destination you begin at, but a literal journey, that will (hopefully) lead us onward to Heaven.
     
  3. woutyet

    woutyet no new thing under the sun

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    just keep praying and pleading. he will forgive you. remember that whosoever calls on the name of the Lord he will save. he knows we are never perfect.think of the thief on the cross next to Jesus. he had only accepted him very shortly before his death. he was a total sinner to that point. he had even mocked Jesus right before that. but when he said to Jesus that surely he was the son of God, Jesus replied,"today thou shalt be with me in paradise"(luke 23:34)the most important thing is accepting him in your heart, asking him for help shows him that you do.i always find it helpful to read fulfilled prophecy when i'm doubting, it works like evidence to me.it's almost chilling how correct old testament prophecy is. it always helps me. try Isaiah
     
  4. ForceofTime

    ForceofTime Type, Pray, Edit, Repeat...

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    Here is one of my favorite passages:

    Isaiah 58:9 Then shalt thou call, and the LORD shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am.

    Blessings to you!:)
     
  5. fm107

    fm107 Psalm 19:1-4 and Romans 1:20

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    1LifeToLive1SoulToGive,

    Once a person is saved, they're always saved.

    That's the peace we have from God that we can rest assured we can be saved because of what he has done!

    John 3:15-16
    that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life.
    “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

    Romans 8:38-39
    For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

    NOTHING a Christian does can separate them from God's love!

    Jude 1:24-25
    To him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy--to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.


    As you can see from the above verses, there is NOTHING someone who accepted Christ as their saviour can do to somehow lose their salvation.

    Don't let Satan cast doubt into your minds and cause you grief.

    Keep praying to God for help, go to Church so you can get encouragement from other Christians and read your bible, God talks to us through his word.


    May God bless you, and don't worry about your salvation, if you believe Christ died for you and you have the Holy Spirit how can you possibly lose your salvation? Every scripture points towards lasting salvation, so we are no longer living in fear of death because we have assurance of salvation!

    Hebrews 2:14-15
    Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might destroy him who holds the power of death—that is, the devil— and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death.

    The fear of death is one of Satan's greatest tools but Christ died and because of that, Christian's no longer have to or should be living in fear of death because we know we have life through Jesus Christ!
     
  6. hollyda

    hollyda To read makes our speaking English good

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    Hi.

    I don't mean to hijack this thread, but as a sufferer of OCD, I wanted to say something to you directly.

    I am not a Christian, but I was when my OCD began to really act up. I would spend hours praying over and over again for forgiveness for each intrusive thought that invaded my head. The thing is, with OCD you can't control what you think, and the more often you fight your thoughts, the stronger they become. I did not leave Christianity as a result of my OCD, so that's not what I'm here to say. While we might have differing theological backgrounds, I remember what it was like to worry constantly over going to Hell over thoughts you couldn't control. Here are a few things to keep in mind:

    1) You can't control your thoughts. There is a chemical imbalance that increases levels of Serotonin in your head, which kicks OCD into high gear. This is not something you asked for, and not something you enjoy.

    2) If you believe divorce is a sin, then according to the Bible, requesting forgiveness -- and being sincere of heart -- should grant you clemency. There is only one unforgivable sin according to scripture, and divorce ain't it.

    3) It's easier for me to deal with OCD by thinking of it as an external entity, like someone whispering in your ear and telling you things you don't want and/or don't agree with. You can't be held accountable for having thoughts as a result of something someone else said.

    4) Don't fight your thoughts. They operate like a finger-trap, the more you struggle, the more amp you give the thoughts.

    Every time I feel myself spiking, I tell myself, "It's okay if I have an obsessive thought. I'm an obsessive compulsive. That's what happens." By allowing the thought to remain, you're essentially stripping it of its power. And you'll find in time that you've forgotten to think about it.

    I just say this because it was incredibly painful for me to go through life thinking I was hellbound over something I couldn't control. Again, sorry for hijacking the thread, but I really hope this helps.
     
  7. Johnnz

    Johnnz Senior Veteran Supporter

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    Your issue is very often related to never having been given sensible teaching and material at a level that your developing intellect now requires. Sadly many young people in the same situation abandon their faith.

    Its not a matter of more prayer, more bible study, hidden sins etc. It's good information you need.

    Feel free to PM me if you want some suggestions about suitable material to look at. there is lots available, so you don't need to remain where you are. Rightly handled you are beginning a major expansion of your faith. That's exciting.

    John
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  8. joyusdays

    joyusdays Let's keep it real...with God's help!

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    Although I struggle with the bible errors and the bible being called God's word for that reason, when I believed in God's Sovereignty, it changed my whole belief. I used to fear of losing my salvation and had some of the same fears you share, but when I studied God's Sovereignty I felt like I was set free of that fear. Just look around you. There is no way that a big bang could create all of this, and the human body, how miraculous it is, there is no way...And...just the fact that you want God...He will not leave one of His sheep He calls by name. Those who really don't believe won't go through what you're going through...they just come out and say they don't believe...no question. Just thank God for stretching you, laugh and love...you will be okay!!
     
  9. SoldierOfSoul

    SoldierOfSoul Senior Veteran

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    I think you stop doubting, when you decide to stop doubting. Jesus said: "don't be unbelieving but believing" it is in our will by the grace of God to come to a place of belief and trust in God. When we finally have enough of the doubts and say: "I am going to believe God and His word over everything, even my own reason."

    But to come to this point requires that God give you grace in believing and you also must study and read the word of God and come to an understanding of what you believe. Read the word of God and get a good study bible with commentary and learn about the God you profess.

    "Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God."
     
  10. briareos

    briareos New Member

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    I have been an Atheist, a very confident and content one and for a very long time. Without much ado I will simply say that the only way you ever silence the doubts about God's reality or meaning in your life is by finding a very real and personal relationship with God for yourself. When you know God personally, when you talk to him and he talks to you you no longer doubt who or what he is and also a close relationship with God is really the solution to all of our problems. When we are close to him we can pray and get anything we need, he can teach us anything we need to know and he can lead us anywhere we need to go. You need a closer walk with Jesus and you just need to ask and pursue that and give all your concerns or fear to him in prayer and he will take care of you.

    God is mighty to save!
     
  11. If Not For Grace

    If Not For Grace Legend-but then so's Keith Richards

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    Read about John the Baptist-when he was in Jail & about to be beheaded; he sent word to Jesus (are you the one?) Jesus did NOT come running & or even stop to visit-He simply sent word back saying-remind John of what he KNOWS. There was no rebuke, in fact we are told there was NONE (NONE not David, Noah, Elisha NONE) greater than John. When the enemy comes against us in our mind, we must combat him w/what we know. Remind yourself or just come back to us, we'll remind you.
    Use your knowledge, and if any man lack wisdom let him ask..That's all. You know Jesus is real, you knew it when you wrote the OP, just go w/what you know. God is big enough to handle your questions and the ocassional doubt. :)
     
  12. Bain_Adaneth

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    1Lifeto live1SoultoGive,

    I understand. If you truly believe that God exist and that Jesus died for us, and you truly gave your life to Him. Then you’re saved. Nothing to fear….that voice will be there, but you can command it to leave in the name Jesus Christ, and it will go. I used to have the same thoughts too.
    But if you do really doubt God’s existence, then you are not saved. I’m not trying to be harsh, just the truth. God’s children knows of His existence and truly believe that He is God, and that Jesus is the Messiah who died and rose and is Salvation.

    If you know for sure that you are saved, just command the voices to go away and deny them. I used to have those thought before and after I was saved. The ONLY difference was …after I was saved, I knew that God IS real….so those thought didn’t scare me or make my faith waiver anymore. Because I remember the day I gave my life to God, and I remember the day that He opened my eyes, and I became a new creature and I believed. So what I did…was command those thoughts to go, and said, these are not my thoughts, I command these thoughts to go away in the name of Jesus Christ. And I will pray for them to go away. They could be spiritual attacks, but they are weak now because I am sure of my salvation.
    I KNOW I am saved. And yes, my mind has said some bad things against God before. I thought I was doomed to hell. But I tell God to take them away, that I hate them and am disgusted about them. So whenever it happens, just denounce it, and pray right away about it. God is the one who can help stop them.
    Praising God and singing helps too. But remember to denounce these evil thoughts, and pray to God. Because when your mind takes over like this…it’s pretty much something that is harder to control than the tongue.
    First question yourself if you are saved or not. If you are, then they are spiritual attacks, and just do what I told you to do. If you are not sure if you are saved or not…you probably are not. A person who is saved, KNOWs that they are saved…even when they have voices that say they’re not.
    Remember I had these voices before and after I was saved. The only difference was that after I was saved….I knew that they weren’t my thoughts….I did not have doubts…the voices said I did, but I KNEW that I was saved…so I paid no attention…and I commanded them to leave my head…I prayed against evil spirits that may have placed them there, and then I prayed, repented, and asked God for help.




     
  13. Bain_Adaneth

    Bain_Adaneth Regular Member

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    Next step, FOCUS of Jesus Christ and READ and THINK about God daily. If the WOrd of GOd and Jesus is filled in your mind, there will be no room for sin.

    Walk in the Spirit and you will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh.
     
  14. Terene

    Terene Bondslave of Jesus Christ

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    Brother 1LifeToLive1SoulToGive,

    Do not despair, you are not alone in this, I have also faced such struggles and have resisted and despaired. But now I am beginning to understand that it is the devil's attacks on us, trying to create doubt, fear and destroy our peace in God.

    Whenever you have such evil thoughts, pray to God and ask Him for help. Resist the devil and do not believe in his lies. Perhaps you can read up the Gospels where the Lord was tempted by the devil and how He dealt with the devil's attacks. He always used the Words of God and thus demonstrated His Faith in His Father, we ought to do the same and trust in the deliverance and promises of God.

    There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it. (1 Corinthians 10:13)

    Remember the verse above, and put on the whole armour of God! Resist the devil, and he will flee from you! May God bless you all through His Christ Jesus.
     
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    dga Newbie

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    Throughout all the centuries, there have been always true believers, who kept the Word of God in its originality, because they appreciated it, and also feared God.

    God cares enough for his Word, to make sure that it is kept in its originality.

    The moral law, the ten commandments, are coded on the heart of every man, his conscience. They must be created, from somebody who is moral.

    In all of creation, we see expressed a thought, wisdom and purpose, which shows, that there is somebody who thinks – God.


    Jeremiah 1:12, Isaiah 55:10,11, Acts – 5:38, 39, 1 Corinthians 15:5, 6, 30, 31, Matthew 5:18, 24:35, Romans 1:19, 20, 2:14, 15, Luke 1:1-4, 2:1-3, 16:17, 1 Peter 1:25, Revelation 22:18,19, Matthew 2:6, 4:24,25, 7:16-20, 9:26,35, 11:20-23, 12:33, 12:40-42, 19:4-6, Luke 6:43, 44, Ezra 1:4, Hebrews 2:3,4, Acts 2:22, 14:3, 16:26-30, Mark 16:17, 20, John 2:11,23, 3:2, 4:48, 6:2, 10:25, 38, 11:45, 14:11, 20:30,31, Luke 10:13, 11:30-32,51, 12:1, Deuteronomy 28:64, Ezekiel 36:24, Isaiah 7:14, 9:6-7, 53:1-12, John 7:38, 39, Romans 8:16, John 3:5-8, Romans 5:5, 9:15,17,25,27, 1 John 2:27, 3:9, 24, 4:13, 1 Corinthians 2:4,5, James 5:17,18, 2 Corinthians 12:12

     
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    Wow your post just brought tears to my eyes... Because I have been feeling these fears that you have. I have terrible anxiety, and I also fear being "left behind" BECAUSE of my fears. Not to mention that I'm in a relationship and how this relationship is holding itself together is entirely another story in itself... To make that story short me and my man are not married, and it doesn't seem like we may ever... or should. It's all so confusing!

    I get those thoughts too like "well if I'm not doing anything for the Lord or telling people about him" (I'm not good at talking to people and I am BEYOND painfully shy, more almost like the loner type) then next thing I hear in my mind is "wow, I'm not a good Christian so what am I doing attempting it in the first place?" But the thing is that God knows our thoughts, he knows we are afraid. But think about another thing, if we didn't care would we even be worried right now?

    God knows our hearts, and if i'm not mistaking, those thoughts that we are getting that are telling us we have no place in the Kingdom of Heaven are LIES straight from the enemy, from the pit of hell... Again, I want to say that I think it is a definite blessing that I found this forum, because now I know that I'm not the only one who is fearing those things right now. I'm glad that we can come together and talk about this stuff. God Bless!!!
     
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    Johnnz Senior Veteran Supporter

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    Midnight,

    Sadly you have been given some high anxiety type teaching, which is not at all helpful for you. You should never be walking such a tightrope in your faith. It makes me so sad to read a post such as yours.

    John
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    Yeah, I've had this anxiety disorder since I was about 12yrs old. It makes me very afraid of crowds, and it takes me forever to warm up to strangers. In fact, I really don't have many close friends of my own just shared friends that my fiance knew before me. Believe me I know it's sad.
     
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    1 John 3:18-24
    18 Dear children, let us not love with words or speech but with actions and in truth. 19 This is how we know that we belong to the truth and how we set our hearts at rest in his presence: 20 If our hearts condemn us, we know that God is greater than our hearts, and he knows everything. 21 Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God 22 and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. 23 And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. 24 The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.

    I thought this passage and especially the bold section would be helpful :)
     
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    Unclean spirits cringe and shrink away at the sound of heart felt praise unto The Lord Jesus Christ.

    If every time an unclean spirit interjects a doubt-filled thought, we respond by thanking The Lord that He has made The Way for us to be forgiven and cleansed of our sins...we soon find those thoughts will diminish and die off from pestering us.

    Yet, be aware, the devil may well yet seek another avenue of vulnerability.

    But in the "Big Picture", this also works for our good, if/when we therefore turn even more and more to prayerfully thanking and praising and looking unto our Saviour.

    Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings has thou ordained strength because of thine enemies, that thou might still the enemy and the avenger. <-----> Psalm 8:2

    And said unto him, Hearest thou what these say? And Jesus saith unto them, Yea; have ye never read, Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings thou has perfected praise? <-----> Matthew 21:16

    In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou has hid these things from the wise and prudent, and has revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight. <-----> Luke 10:21

    For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. <-----> Romans 8:15

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