She's in trouble... Question is, how much? And y'all still think she's fit to run a country?
How come no one is talking about the inspector generals report on Hills?
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Okay, but the report found her in violation of federal offensive, so...she's in trouble. BTW, fantine, why is she dressing like a maw-maw for this campaign? That's not going to help her? Is she trying to look like a poor harmless old lady so they won't prosecute?
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Cosmic Charlie
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Actually, I read the report. (Well, skimmed a lot of it - a lot of it is really boring)
It mostly vindicated her. I know that isn't what the media is saying but it was actually harder on Colan Powell than Clinton and blames Powell's transition staff a lot of the mistakes made by Clinton.
It found her in violation of a couple (and I mean like about 2) federal policy guidelines but not of any federal laws.
This is huge. The FBI says straight up, Clinton didn't violate any laws. Further, they says they have no evidence that the servers were ever hacked.
They are sort of in a snit about her "lack of cooperation" but at the same time say that she's turned over all the e-mails and document they've asked for.
Now, the report actually comes out and says Powell violated the laws in place at the time he was Secretary of State. He's might actually be in trouble with the Justice Department.
....and don't even get them started on Condelezza Rice.....
But Clinton ?
You can't point to anything in this report worth a Congressional investigation let alone an indictment.
That's the reason no one is talking about it. This is NOT what the GOP was hoping for.
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Benghazi, she failed at SofS but she is qualified to run the country? Sure, okay...and CC, the IG says she is in violation. The report showed that. Will they prosecute? Is the question. Look, y'all come on...how many shady scandals, FBI investigations can these Clinton's rack up? She's being investigated along with that crooked govener for taking money from China... Hey, where there is smoke, there's usually fire and there is a lot of smoke. 30 something years of Clinton smoke. These two, they need to be locked up.
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Cosmic Charlie
The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated
Gesundheit
To quote the great LWU: Yawn
Last I checked you don't get persecuted for violated policies guidelines
As near as I can tell as many as the GOP and Clinton hate machine what to gin up.
..and, unfortunately, it's going to go nowhere thank to a very recent SOTUS decision that taking money isn't really wrong or bribery or anything if you're a politician.
Can we drop our partisanism for one sentence and agree that the political process in this country needs an enema ?
30 years of GOP ginned up junk. They've never been found guilty of anything (well excepting receiving oral sex and lying about it).
And, I'm sorry bene, she's never going to get locked up over the emails.
She just wasn't going anything illegal.
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And look, this, woman, I'll call her, she's is saying she didn't know what she did was in violation! What happened to ignorance of the law is no excuse!? And she's fit to run the country? When she don't even know the law??!! Oh come on... Y'all can't keep spinning this top.
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I know those crooked Clintons, plural, will never be locked up but they should be. One thing for sure, they'll be punished maybe not in this life...
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Cosmic Charlie
The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated
And so will the people who bore false witness against them.
(I'm looking at your Gingrich)
and now bene, I love ya like a cyber sister but I've have enough one ups manship for one holiday weekend so you can respond and have the last word if you'd like.
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If you want to talk about something other than Hillary's possible criminal actions, its best to just not discuss anything at all.
Responding to a post asking why people don't want to discuss the issue by refusing to discuss the issue doesn't exactly defuse the situation.
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I guess they think if they don't acknowledge it, it'll go away. But she's in trouble. She's not going to win. I want to also know why no one is talking about Obama going to Japan and acting like he's on their side of the war! Like we did something wrong! We will not act like we did something wrong. This man, I'll call Obama, truly is anti America. Our President hates our country!
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If Hillary's strategy for deflecting criticism is relying on voters' personal sympathy for her, she's going to lose in a landslide.
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Are they? Do you have any proof? Or are we just taking Obama's word for it? Cuz I never heard that before Obama said it. Which country's leaders are "rattled?" Maybe the ones that should be?
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She lied through her teeth time and time again, stating that she broke no rules. Yet the IT Security Section of the State department say the opposite.
She exposed Classified information (information that if revealed, could have posed a massive threat to National security) to potential revelation and/or hacking by insisting it be kept on her personal network.
Then, after being told that her network was attacked by hackers, she ignored the advice to remove it and went straight on with her flagrant disregard for the potential threats her behaviour exposed.
But Clinton. i.e. she can do no wrong and how dare the media turn on her...
She exposed Classified information (information that if revealed, could have posed a massive threat to National security) to potential revelation and/or hacking by insisting it be kept on her personal network.
Then, after being told that her network was attacked by hackers, she ignored the advice to remove it and went straight on with her flagrant disregard for the potential threats her behaviour exposed.
But Clinton. i.e. she can do no wrong and how dare the media turn on her...
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- She led the effort to impose the toughest sanctions in history on Iran, twisting arms in China, Russia and dozens of other countries to force Iran to the negotiating table.
- She personally negotiated a stop to Hamas rockets raining down on Israel with a cease-fire in Gaza and actively supported Israel’s Iron Dome rocket defense system, which saved the lives of many Israelis.
- She was part of the President’s team making the decision to launch the raid against Osama bin Laden.
- She made women’s rights, economic participation, and political participation central to American foreign policy and global affairs, which history will record as a profound contribution.
- She worked to ensure the ratification of the New START treaty, which will make the world safer by reducing American and Russian nuclear arsenals to their lowest point in fifty years.
- She put economics and energy at the heart of the State Department’s agenda. Her jobs diplomacy efforts contributed to a 50 percent increase in American exports to China.
- She worked to build an unprecedented global effort to combat climate change, joining President Obama to stand up to the Chinese in Copenhagen and get them to take greater responsibility for carbon emissions.
- She executed the “pivot to Asia“ – deepening our engagement in this critical region, repairing our alliances, and insisting that China play by the rules while enlisting their cooperation on priorities like Iran and climate change.
- She made the rights of LGBT people a key focus of her efforts as Secretary of State, including lobbying intensively for the first ever U.N. Human Rights Council resolution on LGBT human rights.
- She fought to expand internet freedom around the world, standing up to Russia, China, and Iran on the issue.
- Hillary Clinton oversaw a staff of about 70,000 employees at nearly 270 diplomatic posts in 190 countries around the world.
- Overseeing a budget of more than $50 billion, Clinton worked hard to ensure that American taxpayers got the “most bang for the buck” with State and USAID programs during tough economic times.
- “With less resources and new challenges” Clinton promoted public-private partnerships, launching the Global Partnership Initiative to act as a convener, catalyst, and collaborator with the private sector.
- Former Republican Secretary of State Henry Kissinger said Hillary Clinton “ran the State Department in the most effective way that I’ve ever seen.”
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