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.Thanks for sharing your opinion of what "that sounds like" to you. All we have is what is recorded in Scripture. You may believe the language is describing literal events but, were you there?
The Bible is literal unless the text states otherwise or the context makes it clear. Unfortunately there are a lot of different groups imagining figurative language which, surprise, surprise, just happens to support their assumptions/presuppositions as in the instant case. I wonder if I should believe that the stick of Joseph in Eze 37:19 refers to the founder of a certain 19th century UT group and the book from which the group takes its name? LDS, JW, WWCG, UU, OP, UPCI, INC, SDA, so many groups to choose from and so much different theoretical figurative language..
.Could be I guess. But, as I read the text itself I find:.
The reason for the prophecy
Isaiah 13:1 "The burden against Babylon which Isaiah the son of Amoz saw."
And your point is? I agree that God revealed a prophecy to Isaiah..
.The details of the prophecy which included cosmic language
Isaiah 13:1-16
In your opinion cosmic language..
.The nation God would use to carry out His judgment
Isaiah 13:17 "Behold, I will stir up the Medes against them..."
Once again what is your point? This proves nothing about any so-called "cosmic language.".
.This leads me to the logical conclusion that God followed a similar pattern evident in other prophecies. Cosmic language describing judgment, and in this case the transfer of power from one kingdom to another.
If you assume that the signs were merely "cosmic language" and assume that neither the Egyptians nor the Babylonians actually saw the signs..
.No, we were not there. No modern interpreter knows what the Egyptians did/did not see. We can compare Scripture with Scripture and know that God appearing to man in a cloud has symbolized judgment. It would be foolish for anyone to deny the use of this type of figurative language in Scripture.
Let's compare scripture with scripture. The first seven times God appears in a cloud in the OT; Exo 16:10, Exo 19:9, Exo 34:5, Lev 6:2, Num 11:25, Num 12:5, Deu 31:15. None of them symbolize judgment. Isaiah 19:1 is the eighth occurrence..
.We know Egypt experienced God's judgment. But, we also know the cup from which the Egyptians drank was not a literal cup, and human hearts didn't literally melt.
I can't find anything about a cup in Isa 13 or 19. "heart melting in fear" is a common expression in the OT. It occurs at least eleven times. That does not justify finding other figures of speech..
There you go, still assuming "cosmic language" again.It's doesn't seem to be that difficult to understand that the use of cosmic language that appears to some to be literal is actually describing the end of a kingdom or empire.
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