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Host turns to flesh at the Eucharistic Miracle at Lanciano

Discussion in 'Christian Apologetics' started by Renton405, Nov 10, 2006.

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  1. Renton405

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    Jesus spoke simply to mankind in the Bible. When He said: "This is My Body," I believe it, because Jesus said it and He meant what He said. God can do anything. Now if this is His Body, what part of His Body is the Host?
    In year 700 there was a priest who had doubts of the real presence of Our Lord in the Most Blessed Sacrament. One day at Mass he prayed that his doubts would be removed. As he said the words Consecration the Host turned into Flesh and the Wine turned into Blood.
    What type of Flesh and Blood was it? In 1970 the Holy See ordered a through scientific investigation using spectroscopic analysis, high powered microscopes and advanced medical technology. The most illustrious scientist, Professor Odoardo Linoli, eminent professor in anatomy and pathological and clinical microscopy, headed the investigation and was assisted by Professor Ruggero Bertellie of the University of Sienna. The investigation showed the Host had turned into flesh, into a fine slice of a human heart, and was incorrupt, as though it had just been taken form a heart.

    The analyses were conducted with unquestionable scientific precision and were documented with a series of photographs, (these photographs can be seen on the Internet at http://www.acfp2000.com/Miracles/eucharistic.html which were made public by Professor Linoli on March 4, 1971 in the church of the miracle.
    Other scientists were asked by the Holy See to verify these findings. When all of the data was accumulated, the scientists were in accord: "Without reservation, this is a slice of tissue from a human heart, as though it had been expertly sliced by a surgeon's scalpel through the center of the heart. And, though subject to decay as all flesh is for 1298 years, it remains incorrupt." These findings were published in September 1971 in the official newspaper of the Vatican, LÂ’Osservatore Romano.
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    The Flesh and the Blood have the same blood type: AB uncovered in the Holy Shroud of Turin. In scientific testing the Blood tested as if it were fresh living blood after almost 1300 years.
    Various ecclesiastical investigations were conducted since 1574.
    In 1970-'71 and taken up again partly in 1981 there took place a scientific investigation by the most illustrious scientist Prof. Odoardo Linoli, eminent Professor in Anatomy and Pathological Histology and in Chemistry and Clinical Microscopy. Prof. Ruggero Bertelli of the University of Siena assisted him. The analyses were conducted with absolute and unquestionable scientific precision and they were documented with a series of microscopic photographs.
    These analyses sustained the following conclusions:
    *The Flesh is real Flesh. The Blood is real Blood.
    *The Flesh and the Blood belong to the human species.
    *The Flesh consists of the muscular tissue of the heart.
    *In the Flesh we see present in section: the myocardium, the endocardium, the vagus nerve and also the left ventricle of the heart for the large thickness of the myocardium.
    *The Flesh is a "HEART" complete in its essential structure.
    *The Flesh and the Blood have the same blood type: AB (Blood type identical to that which Prof. Baima Bollone uncovered in the Holy Shroud of Turin).
    *In the Blood there were found proteins in the same normal proportions (percentage-wise) as are found in the sero-proteic make-up of the fresh normal blood.
    *In the Blood there were also found these minerals: chlorides, phosphorus, magnesium, potassium, sodium and calcium.
    *The preservation of the Flesh and of the Blood, which were left in their natural state for twelve centuries and exposed to the action of atmospheric and biological agents, remains an extraordinary phenomenon.
    In conclusion, it may be said that Science, when called upon to testify, has given a certain and thorough response as regards the authenticity of the Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano, Italy.

     
  2. Diane_Windsor

    Diane_Windsor Senior Contributor

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  3. Renton405

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    apparently not.. there are many unexplained things.. to do that you would have to freeze the heart and cut it.. a human heart from the palestine region.. the way its preserved they cannot explain..

    I dont find the skeptic report credible. They still cant explain how it was preserved. And it would take an awful lot of work to get a heart(and a human one at that ) from the palestine region..

    besides every miracle that does happen the skeptics will deam it as false anyway. There have been too many miracles since the church. They ALL cant be false. In my opinion its God saying and prooving he is who he is,and to stengthen our faith..There have been so many hints and signs around the world, its amazing we still won't see..
     
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    I wonder why they had to use a host that was from the year 700... since all hosts are supposed to be the flesh of Christ wouldn't one today have been just as good?

    /me makes a plan to get a host from the local Catholic church to be tested :angel:
     
  5. Renton405

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    im sure theres a meaning. Maybe the holy spirit asserting that they truely are the flesh of chrsit, and showing the people a sign.. for people who doubt that the hosts truely are the flesh of christ(there are many catholics who still have doubt in their mind about that)..

    Miracles are signs from God. Assertions from him. Wake up calls. You probably dont believe in Fatima, but there were messages that predicted the Second World War.

    God gives us little signs all around us.. To not believe in miracles is to not believe the things Jesus did as far as healing and raising the dead.
     
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    Then if i ask the local Catholic church for a host to test it will prove to be real flesh and blood that can be linked definitively to Christ?
     
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    little tigress,
    i think you may not have read or misunderstood the first post. The miracle that took place in 700 was that when the Priest did the consecration of the host and wine it turned into Literal flesh and literal blood! It was THAT Flesh and that Blood that was then later tested and found to be a HEART and type AB human blood. It wasn't just any host or any wine tested...it was literal flesh and literal blood..it was a miracle.
     
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    i understand that.. but why should i believe that the host is really flesh and blood based on what comes down to hearsay? I should be able to do my own objective research and base my beliefs upon that, correct?
     
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    well, tigress, then go ahead and ask God to give you a miracle by turning the host and wine into his flesh and blood so you will believe. This particular miracle that took place in 700 was NOT the ONLY miracle of the host. There were other hosts and wine that also turned into flesh/blood. YOu can go ahead and do all the research you want. Its not "hearsay"...its quite DOCUMENTED by the way!
     
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    where is the documentation proving that this in fact happened in 700 and the documentation proving that the experiments done were done on that specific host?
     
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    lilymarie The love of heaven makes one heavenly -Shakespeare

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    Never mind my previous post, I hadn't read the whole OP.

    I thought the OP might have said they had blood typing in 700 a.d., and I said... I don't think so.

    However, I don't get into stuff like this.

    Not my cup of tea. I agree it's hearsay. One cannot know where that particular flesh came from. Sounds like National Enquirer stuff to me. 98 year old woman gives birth to triplets! Or was it a 99 year old woman?

    Sorry, this stuff isn't my cup o' tea.
     
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    reminds me of the hebrews as they were crossing the desert, their hearts were hardened, even after all the miricles they witnesseed they still would hang on to their hard hearts. This thread alone shows me the power of God's miracles.
     
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    whats interesting though is that according to Catholic doctrine this host couldn't possibly be an authentic host since it had the appearance of flesh. In order to be an authentic host it must appear to be bread.

    And to even question whether or not Christ is present seems to be considered a sin here, so that would be kind of a contradiction wouldn't it, if God doesn't want anyone questioning but to take things in faith yet He would give a sign that would directly nullify the authenticity of the host itself?
     
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    lilymarie The love of heaven makes one heavenly -Shakespeare

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    Oh, I believe in miracles. I've even witnessed one myself.

    However, still this is pretty "out there".

    The National Inquirer is full of this type of stuff.

    Do I believe that? No, I just giggle in the grocery store.

    God performs miracles for those who are there... so that the work of God may be manifest " in them". However, this involves "healing". Jesus walked on water for the apostles, but that was to show who he was to the apostles, and thus God made himself manifest "to them". There is a scripture regarding this, but I'll have to look it up.

    I'll look it up later.
     
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    Look I'm sorry if this offends anyone but I think is a load of tripe myself. I also believe in miracles, have witnessed them, hey my husband used to be blind and should have been dead four times over. The reason I believe it is a load of tripe is because it comes from a very flawed idea of what the "last supper" actually represented. The symbology is so off target it's not funny. God is a God of order and he has an order for the symbology and that ain't it.
     
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    How we know that this is false:

    1. The Shroud of Turin has already been shown to be a fraud.

    2. The Bible doesn't say that the cracker is Jesus' literal body.
     
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