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Holding his feet to the fire: "Buffett schmuffett"

Discussion in 'Christian Current Affairs' started by WinBySurrender, Apr 18, 2012.

  1. Godcreatedsteve

    Godcreatedsteve New Member

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    Apparently, you've never read the Bible. Psa 50:12 for the world is mine, and the fulness thereof. Psa 89:11 The heavens are thine, the earth also is thine: as for the world and the fulness thereof, thou hast founded them. 1Co 10:26 For the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof. 1Co 10:28: for the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof.

    It is only the madness of greed that has driven you to suppose than everything that a man can get by greed and injustice is theirs. When in fact, everything on earth, and every penny in your pocket, belongs to the Lord, and one day you will have to give an account of how it got there.
     
  2. Albion

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    Believe it or not, I have; and I have yet to find a commandment to steal your neighbor's possessions. I found one that says Thou Shalt Not Steal, but I guess today's politicos have removed it from their own editions.

    So, you'd agree that they aren't Congress's or the White House's possessions?

    I'd say that it may be the opposite. I mean the assumption that no one can come by anything honestly. The idea that if you earn something it must be because of greed, injustice, and madness would be comical if it weren't so perverse.

    I'm more than happy to have to belong to the Lord. It's only the politicians and their lackeys that I don't care to be making off with it!
     
  3. Godcreatedsteve

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    Rom 13:1-3 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil.

    Rom 13:6-7 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

    Luk 20:21-25 And they asked him, saying, Master, we know that thou sayest and teachest rightly, neither acceptest thou the person of any, but teachest the way of God truly: Is it lawful for us to give tribute unto Caesar, or no? But he perceived their craftiness, and said unto them, Why tempt ye me? Shew me a penny. Whose image and superscription hath it? They answered and said, Caesar's. And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar's, and unto God the things which be God's.
     
  4. WinBySurrender

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    No, he was not. He referred specifically to dividend checks. Those are income, not capital gains. Stocks, bonds and precious metals are not taxed as capital gains unless they are sold outright, and for the lower tax brackets, any capital gains is not taxed at any greater rate than 5%, and may not be taxed at all, depending on overall income. So Steve is in fact incorrect, and that would make you, also, incorrect.
     
  5. WilliamB

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    If this conversation dosen't prove we need to fix and simplify the tax code, I don't know what will. Sheesh! It's giving me a headache.
     
  6. Godcreatedsteve

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    Once again, you are incorrect. The tax rate on qualified dividends ( dividends paid by a corporation on stock you have held at least 60 days) is 15% - the same as for the profit on assets like stock, bonds and precious metals held for a year or more. Unless you are in the 10 - 15% income tax bracket, in which case it's 0% Please stop re-posting disinformation over and over again, although I know it's a favorite tactic of the far right.
     
  7. Albion

    Albion Senior Contributor

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    Of course, but the cold, hard fact remains that so long as Harry Reid rules the Senate, nothing will be passed--no reform, no budget, no taking on of the national debt, no reforming of entitlements, nothing of importance.
     
  8. WinBySurrender

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    My information came from the IRS. Where did yours come from? Doesn't matter, 'cause its wrong. You're the one posting disinformation.
     
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    That's because Empty Suit's agenda, if enacted, will guarantee every Democratic congressional seat is in jeopardy. That was underlined, highlighted and starred by the Senate defeat of Empty Suit's budget, 414-0 three weeks ago.
     
  10. Lovely Lane

    Lovely Lane Guest

    How so?
     
  11. Lovely Lane

    Lovely Lane Guest

    oh please, give it a break, or at least toss in your empty suit Speaker, Republican House (to include the Tea party reps).
     
  12. Lovely Lane

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    :doh: when these items are sold the 15% rule applies, What do you think Romney said when he pays 15% from investments(capital gains). I'm glad your have an accountant to do your returns for you. What are you talking about? Buying a share of stock and hold onto for years? The wealthy do that, but also they have millions of working capital, they buy and sell daily, weekly, monthly. 15% taxed.
     
  13. WilliamB

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    No worries. When dems take back control of congress, we'll get things moving again. Congress has been gridlocked since 2010 and voters know why. :thumbsup:

    The Buffett rule is a matter of fairness. More of a symbolic gesture that the tax system is unfair and it's time to do something about it. Yeah, it's a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things, but it's a start. And since there is no silver bullet, it will take a lot of little steps to cure the problem.

    All I see is people arguing over whether it's 15% or 25% or whatever. No one even mentions that most Romney types, pay 0% in taxes due to a tax code written by big money corporations and passed by congress members bought by these corporations. How anyone making less than $1 million a year could side with repubs on this just must blows my mind.

    Romney wants to be president but can't even hit a tax deadline. :doh: It's not an accident he dosent want to show them and it's unamerican to not pay taxes. He's a crook, pure and simple and he'll never get my vote.
     
  14. Albion

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    I already mentioned that.

    Symbolism is something the Dems specialize in, isn't it? But it seems like more than symbolism is needed at a time of national crisis.

    Most Romney types? You mean like the Wall Street backers of the President?

    As though he was ever in the running. Give me a break, please.

    But the Kennedy money, the Kohl money, the Rockefeller money, the Corzine money, the Pelosi money, the Obama money, they don't bother you, do they? At least Romney earned his. That's why he's hated in certain quarters, not because he's rich.
     
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    Yes, and repubs specialize in doing nothing but it matters none because you're right. It's hard to consider anyone else for president when the current POTUS is doing such an amazing job. Additionally, it's a futile argument as I can't relate to people who support continuing to coddle the rich at the expense of the poor. It represents such anti-Christ policies, that I'm just continually stunned by the vast number of "Christians" who support it. :confused:
     
  16. Albion

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    You must not have been paying close attention. The House passes bill after bill and the Democrat Senate refuses to take them up. And it refuses to pass a budget--which is required by law. Now it won't even confirm an appointment that both the GOP AND THE PRESIDENT support. Yes, I know who is specializing in doing nothing.

    Don't feel bad. You're just confusing the Bible with the Communist Manifesto. It's probably reparable.
     
  17. WilliamB

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    Yawn...

    Yeah because Christ was a communist. :doh: No worries, 6 more months and the right wing can go back to hiding in their bunkers. You've got 12 more years of democrats in power coming. Hi Hillary! :wave: Better stock up. ;)
     
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