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Have You Made An Informed Choice?

Discussion in 'Creation & Evolution' started by Kahalachan, Jun 28, 2006.

  1. OdwinOddball

    OdwinOddball Atheist Water Fowl

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    And yet, they continue failing to actually produce any science in the "field" of Creationism. Wonder why that is...

    Everything we know of the natural world contradicts a literal interpreattion of Genesis. To say otherwise is to admit willfull blindness and self imposed ignorance.
     
  2. arensb

    arensb Senior Member

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    Out of curiosity, how do you explain the multiple nested hierarchies observed in nature?
     
  3. JohnR7

    JohnR7 Well-Known Member

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    It is to much for you to comprehend that they could both be right?

    There is no contradiction between the two, they both agree with each other. The same God who gave us our Bible gave us the "history written in the rocks". You need to learn how to turn your stumblingblocks into stepping stones.
     
  4. OdwinOddball

    OdwinOddball Atheist Water Fowl

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    Hah! Hearing you tell someone they need to learn soemthing is the height of hypocrisy. Someone who has admitted they know little of science and has no desire to learn more is in no position to tell someone else to learn anything.
     
  5. Chrono Traveler

    Chrono Traveler New Member

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    who said god couldn't have created something small to evolve into something big?
     
  6. pinqy

    pinqy Senior Member

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    These statements contradict. Different languages have different phonemes and therefore different sounds are represented as some sounds don't exist in some languages. Example: most languages don't have a "TH" sound. English needs to combine two letters to represent the one sound. Arabic has three "TH" sounds that are seperate letters and distinct sounds in Arabic, but a native English speaker would not hear a noticable difference. Likewise, Russian has the sound and letter ы which does not exist in English and which most English speakers would not differentiate from "I." And then there's Japanese which does not recognize a difference between R and L sounds, which sound the same to a native Japanese speaker.


    Universal alphabets are extremely complicated.
     
  7. JohnR7

    JohnR7 Well-Known Member

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    That is a nice theory, but the evidence does not support the theory. Perhaps God has a sense of humer because it would appear that He hides this from the wise and reveals it to the simple.

    Matthew 11:25
    At that time Jesus answered and said, "I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes.

    There is no question that there has been a massive effort to indoctrinate the common person with evolutionary thinking and theory. But all of their efforts have failed. Because the common person knows that it is nonsense, but the educated and the wise do not seem to be able to see that.
     
  8. JohnR7

    JohnR7 Well-Known Member

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    I know more about science than you can ever hope to know.
     
  9. shinbits

    shinbits New Member

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    Well, After MANY posts on this site, I have come to some conclusions.

    First, I do realize and acknowledge that there isn't much, if any real evidence for the creation account in Genesis. However, I still believed that it happened, but I won't say that there's evidence for it at this point.

    Hope that's not a problem.

    Evolution.........

    I don't think evolution is a silly as I used to think it was. I still don't think it's a fact, but it trully is the best explanation science has to offer.

    However, I do think it's unfortunate that the nature of science excludes any inclusion or discussion of the divine. All explanations on origins must be purely naturalistic. But then, there's the catch 22 of the fact that science can't prove or disprove God.

    This is an unfortunate circumstance, since that if God is real (and He is), there's nothing really that science can do to include Him.


    ID.......

    I do understand that because it doesn't follow a the set method of science, that it can't really be used by science. However, I do believe that philosophically and logically, that ID is a sound thing to believe in.


    But, we never know what the future will reveal. Maybe one day science will make more of a case for the God of the Bible.

    But, just my two cents. ;)
     
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    Is there a word that means "Numerology, except done with letters"? Maybe Alphabetics? Can I coin that, if not?

    .
     
  11. Cassandra

    Cassandra Guest

    First off...yes to the OP.


    Next of. You're all wrong. ACGT stands for "Apple, Corkscrew, Gobble, Tarantula" Scientists study DNA because...well...it's a great mystery how these things could make up every living thing.


    You know...while we're talking about the different alphabets...When I got my ID in the US...well, my surname has letters that are not in the English alphabet...so they had to substitue letters. Some have no equivalent. Like there is no letter to represent the Vwah sound.
     
  12. JohnR7

    JohnR7 Well-Known Member

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    Are you mean & nasty by nature or did it take some sort of a pill that makes you like that? Just what is it about insulting people that you enjoy?
     
  13. JohnR7

    JohnR7 Well-Known Member

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    You can coin whatever you want to coin. I am all for making up words as we go along. They say to run it up the flag pole to see if people salute it or shoot at it.
     
  14. tocis

    tocis Warrior of Thor

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    Not to forget hoover, err, hovind babble. That phrase so damn typical... :help:
     
  15. tocis

    tocis Warrior of Thor

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    Strrrrrrike! :D
     
  16. Asimov

    Asimov Objectivist

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    Only for you.

    It shouldn't be considered a fact. A theory is a collection of facts that corroborate each other and explain any given phenomenon.

    As it shouldn't. Neither can religion, so how is that a problem for science?

    You think appeals to incredulity and begging the question is a sound thing to believe in?
     
  17. tocis

    tocis Warrior of Thor

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    Just for fun (and to throw in another ancient example), the Futhark runic alphabet has a "th" too, the rune Thurisaz. ;)

    <irony>
    Funny how English degenerated from its more or less "Nordic" origins so that it now needs those two stupid letters where earlier there was one...
    </irony>

    Sorry couldn't resist :D
     
  18. Asimov

    Asimov Objectivist

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    I'm sorry? Aren't you John, the humble man who claims he knows nothing about science and then blames it on us for not teaching him properly?
     
  19. Jan87676

    Jan87676 Shoot first, ask questions later

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    Indeed. You don't need a Ph.D to know that Evolution is false.
     
  20. Asimov

    Asimov Objectivist

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    Indeed, you just need good rebuttals to show it....something you seem to lack. Prove me wrong.
     
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