Well, (staff edit), i would never thought that i will find myself in christian forums asking advise on this matter, but in my country anything is possible i guess...
So i live in a Eastern Europe country, which is pretty underdeveloped and on top of that i live in a rural area where good part of the population is not highly educated and with bellow average income. I consider myself lucky on coming from a middle class family with good education and really good parents. I know this might sound a bit corky to start with, but trust me i am a very humble and descent guy, i employ some of my friends, and spend cash extremely humbly...
I am 28y old business owner with several employees, and going to church on regular basis is something i cannot imagine my life without. In the past i used to go to the local church where i live, the main difference between my church going and most of the folks i see there is that i REALLY REALLY need to stay for well more than an hour. I noticed a lot of people just filter out of churches, i on the other hand feel nothing if i just sat there for 5 minutes light a candle and leave some cash in the box. As time went by some of the employed there started noticing me, although i keep really low profile i just sit somewhere where there aren't many people and think a lot about all the stuff i've done from the last time i've been there.
It really really, helps me clear my head, helps me reflect on some decisions that i've made, I cannot stress enough how important those 1-2 hours are for me, if i dont have that i will not function well, and i am 100% sure of this coz when i spent more than 2+ weeks without going to church i feel like i am falling apart, i cannot work, i start getting nervous way too fast and i cannot study as fast as i can after a prayer.
I will take some time now to explain exactly how i feel before, and after going to church. If for whatever reasons i can't go to church for more than 2-3 weeks, i really start falling apart, literally life starts feeling heavy and hard with anything i do, even when i sleep and wake up i feel empty... Those ~1-2 hours are like the most important thing in my life. After i leave church i usually go to bed and wake up fully rejuvanated, i feel more enthusiastic about my work, i function better on all fields that i can think of.
NOW here is the catch ! Some of the people that work there, started noticing me a lot and started asking around about me, who am i why do i sit there for so long and so on. Some of the employed there even started asking me whats wrong with me, and started telling me that we all got our flaws it is ok and so on. I dont know why would they think that but i really didnt bothered explaining them, i study quantum physics i also study web design for building my website and the people that work there dont even know what that mean so my decission was just to stop going there and go to another church, i mean i really really felt like they dont like me there.
Couple of things about me, i am probably the most average person you would meet, i do not look particularly bad nor particularly handsome, i am really just a guy that doesnt really have any noticable thing going on for them, the only reason why would they notice me is coz i was staying there for quit a bit longer than anyone else.
I go to two other churches now, one is in the center of my capitol and the other is sort of a recluse monastery where there are monks that dont have much to do with the outside world but people go there as well, it is sort of a recreational place near a monastery.
The staff in the church in the capitol is very polite and never bother to actually talk to anyone let alone chase em out of the church, (the center of the capitol city in my country is considered to have the highest educated population and so on). But the people in the Monastery today actually told me, that visitors shouldnt stay there for more than 15 minutes. They asked me how long i stayed there to which i replied -"about 40 minutes so far i believe" and one of the women monks there told me u shouldnt stay for that long, only on sundays you can stay for that long, please consider leaving in the next few minutes.
There is nobody in the monastery when i am in there, no visitors whatsoever, and that is one of the main reasons i go there, besides reflecting on my past decissions i also think about mathematics and problems in physics that i study, and by the god i swear it helps me think but there is no way i can tell this to them. Nor did i planned to argue with them, i politely left and said good bye.
Can someone please, PLEASE tell me how do i tell these people that i actually need more time in church and i cannot be chased and harassed in this manner, i will just stop going there if they do this one more time. I might consider explaining them that i really really need to go to church, although i will leave out the Math/Physics part as i assume those monks there are not well educated and might even consider me as some sort of wrong doer since i enjoy study, science and web design as my work.
I would gladly take any advice from any member, but i would also like to talk to someone that works in church perhaps or has experiene in these thing, i CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH, if i dont solve this i feel like i will lose my faith, (staff edit) I dont talk to anyone that is in there, i dont wear anything that is against churches rules and regulations like short provocative clothing or whatever just some black pants, some shirt and a jacket...
Another thing that i think is worth mentioning is that in that Monastery there has been some robbery in the past that i heard of so they might be weary of any visitors, how do i persuade em that robbing a monastery is the very last thing in my mind ?
I really dont know how to solve this, i also considered like making some bigger money donation to the monastery or something ? I really really need to be allowed to stay there for as long as i feel like but god this sux so hard... Can please someone tell me if you know some actual priest or someone that works in church on these forums that can tell me exactly how to solve this ? I will not argue with the monks in the monastery i am looking to solve this in the most peaceful way possible... you have no idea how hard this sux guys, no rational person would do this, i mean chasing someone out of church, how ignorant you need to be to do that !!!
So i live in a Eastern Europe country, which is pretty underdeveloped and on top of that i live in a rural area where good part of the population is not highly educated and with bellow average income. I consider myself lucky on coming from a middle class family with good education and really good parents. I know this might sound a bit corky to start with, but trust me i am a very humble and descent guy, i employ some of my friends, and spend cash extremely humbly...
I am 28y old business owner with several employees, and going to church on regular basis is something i cannot imagine my life without. In the past i used to go to the local church where i live, the main difference between my church going and most of the folks i see there is that i REALLY REALLY need to stay for well more than an hour. I noticed a lot of people just filter out of churches, i on the other hand feel nothing if i just sat there for 5 minutes light a candle and leave some cash in the box. As time went by some of the employed there started noticing me, although i keep really low profile i just sit somewhere where there aren't many people and think a lot about all the stuff i've done from the last time i've been there.
It really really, helps me clear my head, helps me reflect on some decisions that i've made, I cannot stress enough how important those 1-2 hours are for me, if i dont have that i will not function well, and i am 100% sure of this coz when i spent more than 2+ weeks without going to church i feel like i am falling apart, i cannot work, i start getting nervous way too fast and i cannot study as fast as i can after a prayer.
I will take some time now to explain exactly how i feel before, and after going to church. If for whatever reasons i can't go to church for more than 2-3 weeks, i really start falling apart, literally life starts feeling heavy and hard with anything i do, even when i sleep and wake up i feel empty... Those ~1-2 hours are like the most important thing in my life. After i leave church i usually go to bed and wake up fully rejuvanated, i feel more enthusiastic about my work, i function better on all fields that i can think of.
NOW here is the catch ! Some of the people that work there, started noticing me a lot and started asking around about me, who am i why do i sit there for so long and so on. Some of the employed there even started asking me whats wrong with me, and started telling me that we all got our flaws it is ok and so on. I dont know why would they think that but i really didnt bothered explaining them, i study quantum physics i also study web design for building my website and the people that work there dont even know what that mean so my decission was just to stop going there and go to another church, i mean i really really felt like they dont like me there.
Couple of things about me, i am probably the most average person you would meet, i do not look particularly bad nor particularly handsome, i am really just a guy that doesnt really have any noticable thing going on for them, the only reason why would they notice me is coz i was staying there for quit a bit longer than anyone else.
I go to two other churches now, one is in the center of my capitol and the other is sort of a recluse monastery where there are monks that dont have much to do with the outside world but people go there as well, it is sort of a recreational place near a monastery.
The staff in the church in the capitol is very polite and never bother to actually talk to anyone let alone chase em out of the church, (the center of the capitol city in my country is considered to have the highest educated population and so on). But the people in the Monastery today actually told me, that visitors shouldnt stay there for more than 15 minutes. They asked me how long i stayed there to which i replied -"about 40 minutes so far i believe" and one of the women monks there told me u shouldnt stay for that long, only on sundays you can stay for that long, please consider leaving in the next few minutes.
There is nobody in the monastery when i am in there, no visitors whatsoever, and that is one of the main reasons i go there, besides reflecting on my past decissions i also think about mathematics and problems in physics that i study, and by the god i swear it helps me think but there is no way i can tell this to them. Nor did i planned to argue with them, i politely left and said good bye.
Can someone please, PLEASE tell me how do i tell these people that i actually need more time in church and i cannot be chased and harassed in this manner, i will just stop going there if they do this one more time. I might consider explaining them that i really really need to go to church, although i will leave out the Math/Physics part as i assume those monks there are not well educated and might even consider me as some sort of wrong doer since i enjoy study, science and web design as my work.
I would gladly take any advice from any member, but i would also like to talk to someone that works in church perhaps or has experiene in these thing, i CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH, if i dont solve this i feel like i will lose my faith, (staff edit) I dont talk to anyone that is in there, i dont wear anything that is against churches rules and regulations like short provocative clothing or whatever just some black pants, some shirt and a jacket...
Another thing that i think is worth mentioning is that in that Monastery there has been some robbery in the past that i heard of so they might be weary of any visitors, how do i persuade em that robbing a monastery is the very last thing in my mind ?
I really dont know how to solve this, i also considered like making some bigger money donation to the monastery or something ? I really really need to be allowed to stay there for as long as i feel like but god this sux so hard... Can please someone tell me if you know some actual priest or someone that works in church on these forums that can tell me exactly how to solve this ? I will not argue with the monks in the monastery i am looking to solve this in the most peaceful way possible... you have no idea how hard this sux guys, no rational person would do this, i mean chasing someone out of church, how ignorant you need to be to do that !!!
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