helenofbritain
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Well, a bazillion may have been a slight exaggeration. But only a slight one.
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helenofbritain
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In rural areas, it can be 100km to your next door neighbour's property...
We don't have that much wildlife that needs shooting - most of the rabbits that have been here since colonisation were wiped out with mixymatosis and calaesius viruses - and it's professional roo-shooters who do most of the culling.
The rules for the registration and storage of handguns (particularly the storage - and the law that if someone nicks your gun cos it wasn't properly secured then you are responsible for any crimes they commit) means that there aren't many people who own guns who don'thave a good reason for having them.
And anything semi-automatic or fully automatic has been banned in all states and territories since the Port Arthur massacre in 1996.
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helenofbritain
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Only because they move quickly. I've never shot one, but protection wise, they got about as much going for them as the domestic moggie. So one good shot = dead kangaroo.
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D'Ann
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I don't have a problem with guns that are meant to be for hunting. I don't own a gun, but maybe I should go get one.
That being said, when I was in ROTC in high school, I did enjoy learning how to shoot a rifle. Interesting.
But I don't believe that we should use a gun, as an only option for self protection. Using a gun to save your life or the life of your family is viewed as justification in the Catholic Church teachings. But if we can figure out another way to save our life and the life of our family without killing another human being, that would be the best decision and action to take.
That being said, when I was in ROTC in high school, I did enjoy learning how to shoot a rifle. Interesting.
But I don't believe that we should use a gun, as an only option for self protection. Using a gun to save your life or the life of your family is viewed as justification in the Catholic Church teachings. But if we can figure out another way to save our life and the life of our family without killing another human being, that would be the best decision and action to take.
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helenofbritain
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If no one had a gun, no one would have to have a gun to defend themselves from gun violence.
It's sounds so crazy it might just work.
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D'Ann
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Oh, it would work 90% of the time, until someone broke into a home and tried to kill your family and/or rape you or your little ones... then the criminal would have a better chance of accomplishing their goals.
But if NO one had a gun, and if we didn't have people with a criminal mentality, then it probably would work quite nicely.
I grew up in Los Angeles, 8 miles from downtown L.A. I've seen a lot of criminals who hurt innocent people and get away with it.
I really have mixed feelings on the gun issue. I believe that when the USA forefathers stated that Americans have the right to carry arms, they had a good reason for this. Probably so that Americans could hunt and provide meat for their family and also if need be to protect their country as well.
But now adays, I wish that we did live in a world where there were no murderers, rapers and other violent type of criminals out there victimizing innocent people. I do believe that using a gun on another human being should be as a last result and if at all possible, killing a human being should be avoided at all costs. But the truth is, if someone was to break into my home and harm my children and/or husband, I don't know what I would do. I know that with my dying breath I would do everything within my power to protect my family.
I hope that makes sense. I also want to reiterate that I don't own a gun, but I have a lot of kitchen knives and some other handy things that I'm not afride to use if necessary. I also have two big dogs who know how to attack.
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helenofbritain
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Oh, it would work 90% of the time, until someone broke into a home and tried to kill your family and/or rape you or your little ones... then the criminal would have a better chance of accomplishing their goals.
But if NO one had a gun, and if we didn't have people with a criminal mentality, then it probably would work quite nicely.
But now adays, I wish that we did live in a world where there were no murderers, rapers and other violent type of criminals out there victimizing innocent people. I do believe that using a gun on another human being should be as a last result and if at all possible, killing a human being should be avoided at all costs. But the truth is, if someone was to break into my home and harm my children and/or husband, I don't know what I would do. I know that with my dying breath I would do everything within my power to protect my family.
D'Ann, I'd really like it if you did me the honour of reading this article. I'll pull out some interesting facts from it while I'm at it, for those who won't click the link:
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helenofbritain
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I pulled the source code of a table in the article, in the hope it'll work.... let's see:
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Except that isn't possible.
Even the countries with the most restrictive gun controls still have vast illegal weapons networks.
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MikeK
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The creation of the Second Ammendment had absolutely possitively nothing to do with firearms as they relate to sporting purposes or putting food on the table. It's reason for being is twofold - that the people should be able to assist in the defence of their country and that the people should have at least a chance of overthrowing an oppressive government should it ever be necesarry.
To the second point many little picture folks have quipped "oh yeah right, what are a bunch of hicks with bolt action rifles going to do against the best military in the world? The answer is "defeat it". There is no scenerio in which an all-powerful, oppressive US government would attack (or even counter-attack) it's citizens with airstrikes and such. Greedy governments do not wish to destroy their cities, their sources of income.
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MikeK
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Guns do not cause crime. Areas of the United States with the highest per capita rates of gun ownership tend to have less gun violence than areas with less guns. Guns are far less common in the inner city than thaty are in rural areas. Poverty and unemployment is a better predictor of violence than the prevelance of guns in any area of the United States. I firmly believe thaty a well-armed but peaceful society is more than just possible, I grew up in on. My father was an antique arms collector, nationally known. I don't ever remember not owning and being responsible for the storrage of my own guns. I grew up in the country, I'm sure I was hunting alone by the time I was 10 or 11. I'm only in my early thirties but I recall walking a mile or so down the road with my Browning Superposed 28ga uncased and broken over my shoulder to the woods where I would hunt birds. Nobody batted an eye, that sort of thing was not at all uncommon. I haven't seen that in a while though - I suspect kids are more interested in video games now tham quail. That's too bad.
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No, they just make it easier for criminals--and for children to hurt themselves. (helenofbritain, now you see why you were warned against talking gun control with us?)
I still remember (not very many years ago) when my daughter was babysitting some rowdy boys. The boys found and decided to play with a rifle the boys' dad thought was safely put up (just leaning against the wall in a "out-of-the-way" closet
) that is after they found and put into play their daddy's flare gun. (Daughter conviscated both, informed parents, and never babysat those kids again.)Guns may not cause crime, but they do make it easier for even innocent folks to get badly hurt.
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MikeK
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It was HoB who gave that warning. Did I say something out of line? Lots of tools are dangerous when used negligently or with ill-intent. Your daughter would not have been and better off had the rowdy boys decided they wanted to cruise around the yard in daddy's car or play with Daddy's chainsaw, hot-water heater, oxy-acetelyne torch, matches, or any other number of useful things that demmand respect and care.
Guns can be very dangerous - no doubt about it. They are involved in way too many senseles deaths for me to be comfortable with...but they are common in the US, and if you look at the statistics, they really aren't that dangerous. Just about every farmer owns a gun and some light machinery. Farmers are far more likely to die in a farm accident than a gun accident. Combines don't get the press that guns do though, because guns are scary and easily politicised. they are a tool that can kill - the only reason they get the press that they do is because they are mors common than other tools that can kill - not because they are more dangerous.
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I am not anti-government, both of my parents were in the Navy and my Dad works for the federal government now, Uncle Sam has been very very good to us, but they will be the first to tell you that the common people need to have the right to be armed.
But the Military would still have guns, and the people need guns incase the Government ever tries to get out of line.
I am not anti-government, both of my parents were in the Navy and my Dad works for the federal government now, Uncle Sam has been very very good to us, but they will be the first to tell you that the common people need to have the right to be armed.
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