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Gobsmacked....

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by Wolseley, Nov 19, 2012.

  1. Wolseley

    Wolseley Beaucoup-Diên-Cai-Dāu

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    Good article; well worth the read.
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    Casual Sundays with Mr Curry published a new post entitled "Gobsmacked" on 11/7/2012 7:42:52 AM, written by MLP.

    Gobsmacked

    Well, It's official; I don't know anything.

    I thought for sure that given such a clear choice, Americans would vote for love of country over revenge.

    I was wrong.

    I thought, that just as every presidential election in my lifetime, the bad economy would be hung around the incumbent's neck, sinking him.

    I was wrong.

    I thought that even those few Americans who were fortunate enough to still be fully employed (not counting those leeching off the public system) would be cognizant of how much pain their neighbors were in and elect someone who would at least try to make improvements.

    I was wrong.

    I thought that now that FINALLY some of the disturbing truths about our first black president had come to light, voters would reject a man so dangerously at odds with the American experience.

    I was wrong.

    I thought the 2010 elections and the Tea Party meant something.



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  2. Desk trauma

    Desk trauma Unscrewer of the Inscrutable

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    You know nothing John Snow
     
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  3. pamsight

    pamsight Newbie

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    I really am starting to come around to that parallel universe thought, because when I read the given article, I agree with it. And so does about 50% of the country. The other 50% would agree with your take on it.
    I can't understand how we can all be looking at the same thing, but see 2 completely different things. BTW, he won, so you don't have to jump to his defense, and I am about argued out on the subject, I am just amazed by the 2 opposite perceptions.
     
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  4. DollIsMine

    DollIsMine Newbie

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    I feel bad for you guys since it must be scary to imagine that Obama is some infinitely powerful tyrant who is one of the four horsemen of the Apocalypse or whatever scary thing you imagine he is rather than the reality of him being a slightly liberal president who hasn't done much of anything radical. The shear level of hyperbole is amazing; if Obama intends to let tax cuts expire adding a few percentage points more to some people then he's literally tearing asunder the very fabric of Freedom and is attacking America and is a socialist communist aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!! No sense of perspective or scale, it's only ALL BAD AND EVIL. It would be comical if it weren't so widespread.
     
  5. pamsight

    pamsight Newbie

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    And we feel the same way about those who are truly blind to the damage the policies of this administration can cause.It's not just one thing that concerns us, it's the whole mindset . And it's pointless to argue it, like I said, your team won, lets hope you are correct, and we are wrong. We just love our country as it was founded, we love the Constitution, we love freedom and liberty. And we don't like these things being threatened. And I'm sorry, but whether your side sees it or not, Obama and his plans to change things, are a threat to our way of living. The ones who see this first are the ones who came here from communistic countries. They've seen this before. They can't believe our people are falling for this. Talk to some people that came here to escape communism, get their views on this administration . Where's all that openmindedness and tolerance your side is supposed to have. I sure haven't seen any of it, all I see is mean spirited insults. And why, ? he won didn't he ? And your side still just won't stop with the insults and the extreme defensiveness ?! What is it you are afraid of ? If our side had won, I wouldn't keep acting like it was still up for grabs, I mean like it or not, it's over and we lost, so what's the problem with your side?
     
  6. NightHawkeye

    NightHawkeye Work-in-progress Supporter

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    He's not.

    Instead, he is a flawed man who has an elevated sense of self-importance.

    [​IMG]
    That you so readily dismiss Obamacare, $16 trillion debt, support of the Muslim Brotherhood and Obama's disdain for any compromise or cooperation is telling. That you can readily dismiss the constant lies emanating from the White House is stunning.
    It's not hyperbole when it's true.
    Deficit reduction isn't part of Obama's agenda.

    [​IMG]
    Hope the added perspective here helps your understanding, Doll. :wave:
    Farcical is an apt descriptor for the Obama regime.
     
  7. BleedingHeart

    BleedingHeart Active Member

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    So his article doing the whining about how the typical conservative rhetoric failed is a good article but Rachel Maddow telling you guys to get out of your bubble is oh so terrible?
     
  8. Btodd

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    After reading that drivel, he can't stop himself...he's still wrong.


    Btodd
     
  9. praying

    praying Snazzy Title Goes Here Supporter

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    Why do you hate freedoms, why do you hate America?

    ^_^
     
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  10. TerranceL

    TerranceL Sarcasm is kind of an art isn't it?

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    It's funny, that's pretty much what we were told Bush was.
     
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    I've been wondering the same thing for a long time. But it could be their lack of understanding.
     
  12. I can tell you how: there's an industry on the Right that has taken upon itself from day one of Obama's first term to demonize him. Nothing Obama could ever do would be good.

    The Right, armed with a gross disinformation machine from AM talk radio and FoxNews has generated meme upon meme of Obama's evil. The Right has embraced an unhinged view of a man who, at worst, has only continued the flawed process of his predecessor or taken milquetoast steps to reform healthcare along conservative, market-force lines.

    Obama has done nothing even remotely like what the Right has accused him of doing! Not even close!

    The right has harped on about "birth certificates" and "secret muslim conspiracies" for 4 years now and nothing like that has occured.

    I wish the Right would pick up a history book. The Great Depression lasted a LONG TIME and it took more than a 4 year term of FDR to fix it. Obama shouldn't be saddled with some expectation that no president in history has ever been able to achieve and then lambasted for not achieving it!

    Obama has kept the ship of state going along. These are tough times and arguably there is little any given president could do to "fix" the problems and certainly not "overnight".

    The Right would have been wringing their hands if McCain had been elected in 2008 since he would have had the same experience of failing to "fix everything".

    The next 4 years may see an improvement in our economy overall. It won't necessarily be due to Obama's ideals, but I guarantee you that if it does improve the "Right" will find every single excuse to blame Obama for something.

    The most shameful thing I saw before the election was after the job numbers came out showing a drop in unemployment below 8% THE RIGHT TRIED TO CLAIM IT WAS A CONSPIRACY!

    The Right had no interest in Americans! They were only interested in making sure Obama got NO CREDIT FOR ANYTHING EVEN MARGINALLY GOOD.

    That's why we both look at the same thing and see something different.
     
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    Sounds to me like you have an awful lot of misinformation going on yourself .
     
  14. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    And Romney was a flawed man who was out of touch with too much of the American people.

    six of one, half-dozen of the other.
     

  15. NAME WHAT IT IS.


    If you can....
     
  16. SolomonVII

    SolomonVII Well-Known Member

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    Maybe it will turn out great.
    It is like that Bugs Bunny cartoon where Yosemite Sam cuts off the diving board that Bugsie is dangling from, the diving board stays supended in air, and the supporting structures holding Sam collapse beneath his feet.
    It of course defies the laws of gravity, but Bugs Bunny never studied law.

    Maybe reality really is an illusion here too.

    Good ol' Bugsie. Reality is overrated anyway.
     
  17. praying

    praying Snazzy Title Goes Here Supporter

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    I haven't. Really this whole "the sky is falling, the sky is falling," is ridiculous. I get it, you aren't happy with another fours years of Obama. You believe the country will be worse off. It is however not the END OF THE WORLD that Obama was reelected. That is how that article reads, it's extremist personified.
     
  18. Btodd

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    Sharia Law!!!1!!1!
     
  19. mnphysicist

    mnphysicist Have Courage to Trust God!

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    Many of us love the Constitution, we love freedom and liberty as well. And we don't like these things being threatened. Many of us see Republican policies and past appointments to supreme courts as a threat to all of the above in varying degrees.

    Fwiw, despite his legal background Obama is not perfect... he compromised with the GOP and signed the NDAA bill which slices and dices it to say nothing of forcing legislation from the bench.

    On the other hand... Citizens United, Hosana-Tabor vs EEOC, are huge constitutional divots that I dont believe an Obama appointee would have gone along with.

    I wonder if this is the bottom line divide which colors our vastly different universes?
     
  20. GenetoJean

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    Just like the people on the Right are doing. This division is what is going to kill the country as we know it. If the Congress had to vote on leaving a burning building one side wouldnt vote for it just because the other side proposed it.
     
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