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Good article; well worth the read.
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Casual Sundays with Mr Curry published a new post entitled "Gobsmacked" on 11/7/2012 7:42:52 AM, written by MLP.

Gobsmacked

Well, It's official; I don't know anything.

I thought for sure that given such a clear choice, Americans would vote for love of country over revenge.

I was wrong.

I thought, that just as every presidential election in my lifetime, the bad economy would be hung around the incumbent's neck, sinking him.

I was wrong.

I thought that even those few Americans who were fortunate enough to still be fully employed (not counting those leeching off the public system) would be cognizant of how much pain their neighbors were in and elect someone who would at least try to make improvements.

I was wrong.

I thought that now that FINALLY some of the disturbing truths about our first black president had come to light, voters would reject a man so dangerously at odds with the American experience.

I was wrong.

I thought the 2010 elections and the Tea Party meant something.



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I really am starting to come around to that parallel universe thought, because when I read the given article, I agree with it. And so does about 50% of the country. The other 50% would agree with your take on it.
I can't understand how we can all be looking at the same thing, but see 2 completely different things. BTW, he won, so you don't have to jump to his defense, and I am about argued out on the subject, I am just amazed by the 2 opposite perceptions.
 
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I really am starting to come around to that parallel universe thought, because when I read the given article, I agree with it. And so does about 50% of the country. The other 50% would agree with your take on it.
I can't understand how we can all be looking at the same thing, but see 2 completely different things. BTW, he won, so you don't have to jump to his defense, and I am about argued out on the subject, I am just amazed by the 2 opposite perceptions.

I feel bad for you guys since it must be scary to imagine that Obama is some infinitely powerful tyrant who is one of the four horsemen of the Apocalypse or whatever scary thing you imagine he is rather than the reality of him being a slightly liberal president who hasn't done much of anything radical. The shear level of hyperbole is amazing; if Obama intends to let tax cuts expire adding a few percentage points more to some people then he's literally tearing asunder the very fabric of Freedom and is attacking America and is a socialist communist aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!! No sense of perspective or scale, it's only ALL BAD AND EVIL. It would be comical if it weren't so widespread.
 
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And we feel the same way about those who are truly blind to the damage the policies of this administration can cause.It's not just one thing that concerns us, it's the whole mindset . And it's pointless to argue it, like I said, your team won, lets hope you are correct, and we are wrong. We just love our country as it was founded, we love the Constitution, we love freedom and liberty. And we don't like these things being threatened. And I'm sorry, but whether your side sees it or not, Obama and his plans to change things, are a threat to our way of living. The ones who see this first are the ones who came here from communistic countries. They've seen this before. They can't believe our people are falling for this. Talk to some people that came here to escape communism, get their views on this administration . Where's all that openmindedness and tolerance your side is supposed to have. I sure haven't seen any of it, all I see is mean spirited insults. And why, ? he won didn't he ? And your side still just won't stop with the insults and the extreme defensiveness ?! What is it you are afraid of ? If our side had won, I wouldn't keep acting like it was still up for grabs, I mean like it or not, it's over and we lost, so what's the problem with your side?
 
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I feel bad for you guys since it must be scary to imagine that Obama is some infinitely powerful tyrant ...
He's not.

Instead, he is a flawed man who has an elevated sense of self-importance.

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... who is one of the four horsemen of the Apocalypse or whatever scary thing you imagine he is rather than the reality of him being a slightly liberal president who hasn't done much of anything radical.
That you so readily dismiss Obamacare, $16 trillion debt, support of the Muslim Brotherhood and Obama's disdain for any compromise or cooperation is telling. That you can readily dismiss the constant lies emanating from the White House is stunning.
The shear level of hyperbole is amazing; ...
It's not hyperbole when it's true.
... if Obama intends to let tax cuts expire adding a few percentage points more to some people then he's literally tearing asunder the very fabric of Freedom and is attacking America and is a socialist communist aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!
Deficit reduction isn't part of Obama's agenda.

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No sense of perspective or scale, it's only ALL BAD AND EVIL.
Hope the added perspective here helps your understanding, Doll. :wave:
It would be comical if it weren't so widespread.
Farcical is an apt descriptor for the Obama regime.
 
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Good article; well worth the read.


So his article doing the whining about how the typical conservative rhetoric failed is a good article but Rachel Maddow telling you guys to get out of your bubble is oh so terrible?
 
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I feel bad for you guys since it must be scary to imagine that Obama is some infinitely powerful tyrant who is one of the four horsemen of the Apocalypse

It's funny, that's pretty much what we were told Bush was.
 
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I can't understand how we can all be looking at the same thing, but see 2 completely different things.

I can tell you how: there's an industry on the Right that has taken upon itself from day one of Obama's first term to demonize him. Nothing Obama could ever do would be good.

The Right, armed with a gross disinformation machine from AM talk radio and FoxNews has generated meme upon meme of Obama's evil. The Right has embraced an unhinged view of a man who, at worst, has only continued the flawed process of his predecessor or taken milquetoast steps to reform healthcare along conservative, market-force lines.

Obama has done nothing even remotely like what the Right has accused him of doing! Not even close!

The right has harped on about "birth certificates" and "secret muslim conspiracies" for 4 years now and nothing like that has occured.

I wish the Right would pick up a history book. The Great Depression lasted a LONG TIME and it took more than a 4 year term of FDR to fix it. Obama shouldn't be saddled with some expectation that no president in history has ever been able to achieve and then lambasted for not achieving it!

Obama has kept the ship of state going along. These are tough times and arguably there is little any given president could do to "fix" the problems and certainly not "overnight".

The Right would have been wringing their hands if McCain had been elected in 2008 since he would have had the same experience of failing to "fix everything".

The next 4 years may see an improvement in our economy overall. It won't necessarily be due to Obama's ideals, but I guarantee you that if it does improve the "Right" will find every single excuse to blame Obama for something.

The most shameful thing I saw before the election was after the job numbers came out showing a drop in unemployment below 8% THE RIGHT TRIED TO CLAIM IT WAS A CONSPIRACY!

The Right had no interest in Americans! They were only interested in making sure Obama got NO CREDIT FOR ANYTHING EVEN MARGINALLY GOOD.

That's why we both look at the same thing and see something different.
 
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He's not.

Instead, he is a flawed man who has an elevated sense of self-importance.

And Romney was a flawed man who was out of touch with too much of the American people.

six of one, half-dozen of the other.
 
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Good article; well worth the read.
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Casual Sundays with Mr Curry published a new post entitled "Gobsmacked" on 11/7/2012 7:42:52 AM, written by MLP.

Gobsmacked

Well, It's official; I don't know anything.

I thought for sure that given such a clear choice, Americans would vote for love of country over revenge.

I was wrong.

I thought, that just as every presidential election in my lifetime, the bad economy would be hung around the incumbent's neck, sinking him.

I was wrong.

I thought that even those few Americans who were fortunate enough to still be fully employed (not counting those leeching off the public system) would be cognizant of how much pain their neighbors were in and elect someone who would at least try to make improvements.

I was wrong.

I thought that now that FINALLY some of the disturbing truths about our first black president had come to light, voters would reject a man so dangerously at odds with the American experience.

I was wrong.

I thought the 2010 elections and the Tea Party meant something.

I thought the enthusiasm on display at Romney/Ryan events, contrasted with the lack of same at Obama/Biden events meant something.

I thought Americans would never sell their liberty for the sake of trinkets like cell phones or even big shiny lies like 'free health care'.

I was wrong.

Never in a million years would I have supposed that America would support a president who left his (our) people to die at the hands of our enemies overseas without lifting a hand to help, then lie about what he watched in real time for over two weeks, then lie about the lie for another month.

I was wrong.

I thought Americans could tell a hawk from a handsaw.

I was wrong.

We were offered the clearest choice we've has since 1980, where we had malaise and a misery index on one hand and a shining city on a hill on the other. Back then, we chose the city on the hill. This time the choice was between a man who says 7.9% unemployment and $4.00 gas is the new normal and a guy whose entire career has been about fixing broken entities.

We chose to stay broken. And Broke.

Maybe I'm wrong about the ramifications of this choice. Maybe windmills will actually turn out to be a viable energy source. Maybe America diminished will be loved overseas. Maybe a nuclear Iran won't be a threat. Maybe Israel is over reacting. Maybe western civilization was always over rated. Maybe life under sharia is fun. Maybe when the rest of the world realizes that we have no intention of ever paying back that $16,000,000,000,000.00 (and counting) that we've borrowed from them, they won't devalue the dollar, causing hyper inflation here at home. Maybe China will just keep on giving us money and not demand our hearts, souls, national monuments and marriageable daughters as payment.

I've watched my candidate lose elections before but I've never felt the way I did last night when this one was called for Obama.

It wasn't bitterness or sadness or even disappointment. It took me a while to figure out what it was. Then it hit me; it was horror.

Pure, unadulterated horror.

Not because of Obama, but because of what it says about us, the American people, that we chose this.

It shouldn't have even been close. Faced with the choice between taking charge of our destiny and tackling our financial problems, we opted to get high and have sex. We re-elected a guy who doesn't understand that a growing economy that creates more tax payers will bring in more revenue than higher taxes. A Commander in Chief who doesn't know our military still uses bayonets. A man who wants to control the economy without even knowing the difference between bankruptcy and liquidation. It was one thing to elect an unknown quantity, buying his line of 'Hope and Change'. It's something else to deliberately choose his failed policies over someone who has actually achieved success in life. I never dreamed America would do that.

Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, Hello Idiocracy!

Goodbye, recovery.

Goodbye, energy independence.

Goodbye, religious liberty.

Goodbye, liberty and justice for all.

Goodbye, America dream.

It profits a man nothing to lose his soul for the whole world....
but we threw ours away for cell phones and birth control pills.


In the twentieth century (the American Century), we stepped up to the plate three times and saved the rest of the world from Fascism, Nazism and Communism. We were the cavalry, always riding to the rescue.

Now, we've gotten rid of our horses, spent all our money on windmills, alienated our allies, bowed to our enemies, cut ourselves off from our own natural resources thrown away our children's birthright and spent their inheritance.

And 51.4% of us did it on purpose.

When the wolf is at the door (and he is coming, yelling 'Allahu Akbar') we're going to find out that there is no one out there to come to our rescue.

On the bright side, maybe it'll all turn out great.
After all, I don't know anything.


Maybe it will turn out great.
It is like that Bugs Bunny cartoon where Yosemite Sam cuts off the diving board that Bugsie is dangling from, the diving board stays supended in air, and the supporting structures holding Sam collapse beneath his feet.
It of course defies the laws of gravity, but Bugs Bunny never studied law.

Maybe reality really is an illusion here too.

Good ol' Bugsie. Reality is overrated anyway.
 
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I've been wondering the same thing for a long time. But it could be their lack of understanding.

I haven't. Really this whole "the sky is falling, the sky is falling," is ridiculous. I get it, you aren't happy with another fours years of Obama. You believe the country will be worse off. It is however not the END OF THE WORLD that Obama was reelected. That is how that article reads, it's extremist personified.
 
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And we feel the same way about those who are truly blind to the damage the policies of this administration can cause.It's not just one thing that concerns us, it's the whole mindset . And it's pointless to argue it, like I said, your team won, lets hope you are correct, and we are wrong. We just love our country as it was founded, we love the Constitution, we love freedom and liberty..

Many of us love the Constitution, we love freedom and liberty as well. And we don't like these things being threatened. Many of us see Republican policies and past appointments to supreme courts as a threat to all of the above in varying degrees.

Fwiw, despite his legal background Obama is not perfect... he compromised with the GOP and signed the NDAA bill which slices and dices it to say nothing of forcing legislation from the bench.

On the other hand... Citizens United, Hosana-Tabor vs EEOC, are huge constitutional divots that I dont believe an Obama appointee would have gone along with.

And I'm sorry, but whether your side sees it or not, Obama and his plans to change things, are a threat to our way of living.

I wonder if this is the bottom line divide which colors our vastly different universes?
 
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Just like the people on the Right are doing. This division is what is going to kill the country as we know it. If the Congress had to vote on leaving a burning building one side wouldnt vote for it just because the other side proposed it.
 
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