Frist backs stem cell research

[Kelly]

Stereotyping sucks

"Hates US Military and Loves to burn flags" is just as insulting as when we get labeled as hating gays.

Cut it out, folks.

 

[christalee4]

ANYWAY, back to Sen. Frist. Can one be pro-stem cell research and anti-abortion at the same time, if one believes that life begins right at conception? I think it's good that Frist supports stem cell research, as most Americans do, but my cynicism leads me to believe that he was doing less out of understanding that it would do people good, and more to build the foundation for his politcal career. Maybe I'm wrong.

 

[Praise2God]

ANYWAY, back to Sen. Frist. Can one be pro-stem cell research and anti-abortion at the same time, if one believes that life begins right at conception? I think it's good that Frist supports stem cell research, as most Americans do, but my cynicism leads me to believe that he was doing less out of understanding that it would do people good, and more to build the foundation for his politcal career. Maybe I'm wrong.

Yes, I support stem cell research very much. But I don't support embryonic stem cell. There are many different ways to do a stem cell research. Besides, even though Bush is against funding embryonic stem cell research, it doesn't mean noone else can't fund it.

 

[JPPT1974]

ANYWAY, back to Sen. Frist. Can one be pro-stem cell research and anti-abortion at the same time, if one believes that life begins right at conception? I think it's good that Frist supports stem cell research, as most Americans do, but my cynicism leads me to believe that he was doing less out of understanding that it would do people good, and more to build the foundation for his politcal career. Maybe I'm wrong.

Maybe you are right about him building the foundation for his political career. And maybe he is supporting stem cell research in order to save peoples' lives.

 

[winglovesall]

I don't support Stem Cell research. But maybe, it's good for leadership and support!

 

[Chosen One]

Yes, I support stem cell research very much. But I don't support embryonic stem cell. There are many different ways to do a stem cell research.

There are many was to do research sure- I can research how many stem cells fit in the eye of a needle- but it won't do anybody any good. Let's leave the scientific work up to the scientists. Let's face it- most of us do not understand the limitations of adult versus embroyonic stemscells. To put caps on research would be ludicrous.

Besides, even though Bush is against funding embryonic stem cell research, it doesn't mean noone else can't fund it.

You are right- someone else will. It will be the English, Frech, Chinese or Indian governments that will fund THEIR scientists doing this research. They will reap the economic benefits and it is one more thing we will need to import into this country.

 

[platzapS]

I don't call it flip-flopping. I call it being an intelligent person who can reconsider a position. I don't respect a politician who never changes any of his views. I am 39 years old now and if I had to be stuck with all of my views that I held when I was 20...YIKES.

I agree! If it's for the good of the nation, I don't care about Frist's consistency.

 

[Maynard Keenan]

" -Hates the US military
-loves burning flags"

Those are really offensive man. You have absolute support for the war on terror before it was expanded to Iraq which we had objections about. Thats PRO military. How about which party cared about supplying our soldiers at war? Flags? How about freedom of expression? If we start banning things that infringe upon no one's rights but we "just don't like" then we are closer to communism than universal healthcare would ever take us.

 

[reverend B]

frist has been a good soldier, but bush is now a lame duck and his weakness will grow over the next three years as republicans start to maneuver for position.
this was somewhat inevitable. the science here is so overwhelmingly in favor of this research that the dissonance will only come from the fatally idealogically entrenched. but not to worry. there are plenty of those. witness our friend in Christ here on this thread who has been handily programmed to take positions that not only oppose his left leaning brothers, but angrily and simplistically attack them. we will always have a supply of these folks on both sides of the aisle. the good news is there is a reason that both the klan and nambla are marginalized. when the thinking starts, their party is over.
what our strident buddy doesn't understand and a previous poster noted, the "pro" moniker is part of the war between the two lost tribes of america, the left and the right. the only "pro" is freedom. the specific ways that it manifests itself can be repugnant or blissful, depending on your point of view, but the freedom itself is always magnificent. i will march for the right for klan/nambla to speak their mind (which, after all, should not take terribly long) while fighting their ability to force their thinking into law that will impact unwilling participants.
the bottom line is, if you don't like stem cell research, do not take advantage of the advances it may produce, but don't think you have the right to keep the quadraplegic in his chair. if you don't feel like marrying a feller, and you are one, don't. i will march with you in opposition to any law that would require men to marry men. i am all in.
whether frist is a phony trolling for votes, or a man of conscience that has had an honest change of heart on the subject, or merely a former puppet that has had the strings cut by the weakening of the party leader will matter if you want to vote for him. otherwise, perhaps it could be a hopeful sign that blind idealogy can be overwhelmed by the desire for the common good.

 

[Harpuia]

Oy...

1 guy backing stem cell research and it has to go to this.

I know it's a leading conservative, but think about this logically. Until abortion is banned, what do you expect to do with the aborted? Throw them away? You should put the embryos to use somehow. I'm all for life but making death in vain would just suck.

 

[platzapS]

I know it's a leading conservative, but think about this logically. Until abortion is banned, what do you expect to do with the aborted? Throw them away? You should put the embryos to use somehow. I'm all for life but making death in vain would just suck.

Agreed, and the vast majority of proposed stem cell research products wouldn't even be from aborted fetuses. They would be from embryos left over after in vitro fertilization (IFV) procedures. I haven't checked this, but I've heard that fetuses past a few weeks or so are useless, because the dynamic and malleable embryonic stem cells have already specialized.

 

[KenH]

Embyronic stem cell research has produced zero benefits, while people are already reaping the benefits of adult stem cell and umbilical cord blood research - www.stemcellresearch.org.

I doubt any cures will ever come from embryonic stem cell research. If it was truly going to do so much good as its proponents claim it wouldn't be worlds behind these other research methods.

Funding embryonic stem cell research is merely buying a pig in a poke.

 

[ForeRunner]

Agreed, and the vast majority of proposed stem cell research products wouldn't even be from aborted fetuses. They would be from embryos left over after in vitro fertilization (IFV) procedures. I haven't checked this, but I've heard that fetuses past a few weeks or so are useless, because the dynamic and malleable embryonic stem cells have already specialized.

Ach!

Embryonic stems cells do not come from aborted fetuses. Where the heck are you people hearing this?

And 5 days after fertilization the cells are differentiated too much to use. 3 days is optimal.

 

[ForeRunner]

Embyronic stem cell research has produced zero benefits, while people are already reaping the benefits of adult stem cell and umbilical cord blood research - www.stemcellresearch.org.

I doubt any cures will ever come from embryonic stem cell research. If it was truly going to do so much good as its proponents claim it wouldn't be worlds behind these other research methods.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6783024/

I expect you to never make that erroroneous statement again. Somehow I doubt it will happen.

 

[ClaireZ]

It's world's behind, because it doesn't have the necessary funding.

Breakthroughs are being made in S.Korea right now, and American Scientists are moving to other countries in order to conduct their research.

This technology WILL be developed, it is just a matter of where, and by whom.

 

[ForeRunner]

Not to mention Adult Stem Cell research has been around for 40 years whereas Embryonic stem cel research is less than 10 years old and hampered by a lack of pubic funding.

 

[Doctrine1st]

Is it even worth it?

No it's not. Sometimes it's better to cut the loses.

 

[ClaireZ]

Stem cells heal spinal cords in study on rats
Two-thirds of animals with severed spines regained use of hind limbs.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8717240/

Just look at the Possibilities!!

So many could be helped!

 

[CJ.23]

Well, as stem cells may be used form living donors this may make sense...
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,1011...6-13762,00.html

My understanding is the objection that stem cell researh has so far depended on using cells from aborted foetuses?

cj x

 

[ForeRunner]

My understanding is the objection that stem cell researh has so far depended on using cells from aborted foetuses?

cj x

I just said this 5 posts up, did you read the thread?

Embryonic stems cells do not come from aborted fetuses.