Fornication and Remarriage

[Joe Green]

1 Corinthians 7:2 "Nevertheless, to avoid fornication let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband."

Fornication-A single person, never married, having someone's Biblical (covenant) companion.

It seems to be slowly developing in the minds of the people that when a man who has no living wife marries a woman with a husband that that man will be free to divorce this woman and be free to marry another. The man is guilty of fornication and may marry another but the woman is bound to her first companion. - Church of Prophecy

 

[dayhiker]

Its pretty clear that the Jews didn't think this way in the 1st century from my study.
After all the writing of divorce that a man was suppose to give a woman said, "You are free to marry any man."

 

[Douglas Hendrickson]

1 Corinthians 7:2 "Nevertheless, to avoid fornication let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband."

Fornication-A single person having someone's Biblical (covenant) companion.

It seems to be slowly developing in the minds of the people that when a man who has no living wife marries a woman with a husband that that man will be free to divorce this woman and be free to marry another. The man is guilty of fornication and may marry another but the woman is bound to her first companion. - Church of Prophecy

I think you have a couple of things fairly wrong Joe.

Much of your definition of "fornication" is unclear - can only a single person fornicate? There is a fair amount of indication that fornication was intercourse with a prostitute. And another thing about it, I think one verse of scripture definitely indicates adultery is one form of fornication. Only a certain kind of adultery, where one of the persons is single?

Anyway, your suggestion about a man marrying a woman with a husband, well that is bigamy!

Better express your point better Joe - are you wondering whether the admonition to marry can apply to remarriage?

 

[Open Heart]

inappropriate contenteia (translated as fornication) means ANY illicit sex, IOW any sex not with your biblically lawful spouse, or wrong sort of sex with your spouse.

I didn't really understand the rest of the OP.

 

[Stillicidia]

People who speak to the Holy Spirit convey a more stern approach to marriage than you might expect,

Even if your wife or husband are difficult to deal with you should ask for things from god, like passionate power, and Grace, to work wonders in the marriage.

This means, it's more held now, to hold tightly to your marriage, than to give it up, except over abuse, abuse is not tolerated even a little bit.

This is because, when you go to heaven, if you were married, the first question God will ask is what did you do with your spouse?

Why should you not remarry if your wife died?

 

[Douglas Hendrickson]

inappropriate contenteia (translated as fornication) means ANY illicit sex, IOW any sex not with your biblically lawful spouse, or wrong sort of sex with your spouse.

I didn't really understand the rest of the OP.

OK, so what is "sex"? In terms of this definition and concern, it's COITUS, right?
That has traditionally been understood as "the consummation of marriage."

Are you going to define all "the wrong sorts of sex," such that that is perfectly clear?

 

[Joe Green]

I think you have a couple of things fairly wrong Joe.

Much of your definition of "fornication" is unclear - can only a single person fornicate? There is a fair amount of indication that fornication was intercourse with a prostitute. And another thing about it, I think one verse of scripture definitely indicates adultery is one form of fornication. Only a certain kind of adultery, where one of the persons is single?

Anyway, your suggestion about a man marrying a woman with a husband, well that is bigamy!

Better express your point better Joe - are you wondering whether the admonition to marry can apply to remarriage?

A person can be in the state of fornication and committing adultery,both at the same time.
Most adulterer's have a living companion, besides the one they are living with, except for a fornication marriage.
Most people do not know what a fornication marriage is.

 

[Joe Green]

Its pretty clear that the Jews didn't think this way in the 1st century from my study.
After all the writing of divorce that a man was suppose to give a woman said, "You are free to marry any man."

You are free to marry any man. Yes, if neither he or she has any living companions.

 

[dayhiker]

You are free to marry any man. Yes, if neither he or she has any living companions.

That isn't a concept that was around in Jesus' day. It was added later.

 

[Joe Green]

You are free to marry any man. Yes, if neither he or she has any living companions.

I think you have a couple of things fairly wrong Joe.

Much of your definition of "fornication" is unclear - can only a single person fornicate? There is a fair amount of indication that fornication was intercourse with a prostitute. And another thing about it, I think one verse of scripture definitely indicates adultery is one form of fornication. Only a certain kind of adultery, where one of the persons is single?

Anyway, your suggestion about a man marrying a woman with a husband, well that is bigamy!

Better express your point better Joe - are you wondering whether the admonition to marry can apply to remarri Yes, adultery is one form of fornication .Sometime when you have 5 minutes,go to Luke 16:18 Jesus speaking .Yes fornication,is unclear to most people.We have to rightly divide the New Testament. It just make a lot of sense,that
when a man who has no living wife marries a woman with a husband. the man is guilty of fornication.They both can
get out of this.

 

[Joe Green]

That isn't a concept that was around in Jesus' day. It was added later.

 

[Joe Green]

A single person who has never been married,has sex with a married person, this is fornication, if we rightly divide the
word, it is the only possible answer.

 

[Joe Green]

A single person who has never been married,has sex with a married person, this is fornication, if we rightly divide the
word, it is the only possible answer.

Two singles never been married, having sex together is adultery, not fornication.

 

[ViaCrucis]

inappropriate contenteia (translated as fornication) means ANY illicit sex, IOW any sex not with your biblically lawful spouse, or wrong sort of sex with your spouse.

I didn't really understand the rest of the OP.

Specifically, inappropriate contenteia was prostitution, the specific illicit sex of sleeping with a prostitute or prostituting oneself. It could be argued to have a broader meaning, but that's the rather specific meaning of the word.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

Two singles never been married, having sex together is adultery, not fornication.

Adultery is the act of either being married and having sex with someone who isn't your spouse or sleeping with a married person. Two non-married people having sex would not be classified as adultery since neither are married.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

Most people do not know what a fornication marriage is.

I suppose that's probably because your group is making it up.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Open Heart]

OK, so what is "sex"? In terms of this definition and concern, it's COITUS, right?
That has traditionally been understood as "the consummation of marriage."

Exactly, sex was the consummation of marriage, so inappropriate contenteia in this context means that there is no licit marriage, that there is some legal grounds to invalidate the marriage.

 

[Open Heart]

Specifically, inappropriate contenteia was prostitution, the specific illicit sex of sleeping with a prostitute or prostituting oneself. It could be argued to have a broader meaning, but that's the rather specific meaning of the word.

-CryptoLutheran

that is not my understanding. do you have a source you can cite?

 

[ViaCrucis]

that is not my understanding. do you have a source you can cite?

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/πορνεία

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper...:1999.04.0057:entry=inappropriate contentei/a

Every source I'm familiar with has prostitution as the primary and specific meaning of πορνεία. Because πορνεία is the activity of a πόρνος/πόρνη, a prostitute.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Joe Green]

Adultery is the act of either being married and having sex with someone who isn't your spouse or sleeping with a married person. Two non-married people having sex would not be classified as adultery since neither are married.

-CryptoLutheran