Perhaps he will claim that his Apple Challenge is brand new and the other appearances of the Apple Challenge were embedded in the website when the universe was created last Thursday.
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Perhaps he will claim that his Apple Challenge is brand new and the other appearances of the Apple Challenge were embedded in the website when the universe was created last Thursday.
Split Rock
Conflation of Blathers
LOL!! Don't forget "Return of My Apple Challenge!," and Son of The Return of My Apple Challenge!" The whole point of which seems to be that Ex Nihilo Creation leaves no evidence, therefore must be true!
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Vene
In memory of ChordatesLegacy
I have no issue with AV stating there is no evidence for creationism.LOL!! Don't forget "Return of My Apple Challenge!," and Son of The Return of My Apple Challenge!" The whole point of which seems to be that Ex Nihilo Creation leaves no evidence, therefore must be true!
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tanzanos
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Oh no!!!! NOT the APPLE CHALLENGE again!!!!!!! AARRRGGGHHHH
MEEERRRCCCYYYYYYYYY!!!! I promise to eat my dinner!
MEEERRRCCCYYYYYYYYY!!!! I promise to eat my dinner!
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TroubleShooter43
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Oh no!!!! NOT the APPLE CHALLENGE again!!!!!!! AARRRGGGHHHH
MEEERRRCCCYYYYYYYYY!!!! I promise to eat my dinner!
Forgive me, I'm new here but what is the "apple challenge"? Trying to make your Apple use PC software?
Venee, google the name "Ziasudra". I think you will be interested in what you find.
I'd make the same suggestion to AV but I doubt it would make any difference.
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Split Rock
Conflation of Blathers
Believe me... you don't want to know...Forgive me, I'm new here but what is the "apple challenge"? Trying to make your Apple use PC software?
Venee, google the name "Ziasudra". I think you will be interested in what you find.
I'd make the same suggestion to AV but I doubt it would make any difference.
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Logic_Fault
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi Ubique
You can find the thread here. It's not a pretty sight though. You've been warned.
If only it were something that sensible.Trying to make your Apple use PC software?
And you'd be quite correct.
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Vernee, you might also want to check out varves.
These are the very thin layers that get deposited each year in certain rivers, lakes and fjords. These layers are seasonal and can be counted like tree rings. They have been monitoring some of these varve formations for nearly 100 years and the pattern is VERY consistent. And, they can dig down and see this pattern going back for thousands and thousands of years. In some of the lakes and fjords fed by glaciers, we see an unbroken line of annual deposit layers going back to the last ice age, which is much, much earlier than any proposed global flood.
The obvious point is that any global flood would completely mess up this annual sequence, as you can imagine. But the layers go quietly and consistently on back in time as if no global flood ever occurred.
In the Green River formations, I think they can trace the layers back for a couple hundred thousand years.
As with everything else in the studies of geology, history, pre-history, genetics, biology and a dozen other disciplines, all the evidence gathered in this field describes a world which has been clicking along for a VERY long time, with no evidence of a global flood.
These are the very thin layers that get deposited each year in certain rivers, lakes and fjords. These layers are seasonal and can be counted like tree rings. They have been monitoring some of these varve formations for nearly 100 years and the pattern is VERY consistent. And, they can dig down and see this pattern going back for thousands and thousands of years. In some of the lakes and fjords fed by glaciers, we see an unbroken line of annual deposit layers going back to the last ice age, which is much, much earlier than any proposed global flood.
The obvious point is that any global flood would completely mess up this annual sequence, as you can imagine. But the layers go quietly and consistently on back in time as if no global flood ever occurred.
In the Green River formations, I think they can trace the layers back for a couple hundred thousand years.
As with everything else in the studies of geology, history, pre-history, genetics, biology and a dozen other disciplines, all the evidence gathered in this field describes a world which has been clicking along for a VERY long time, with no evidence of a global flood.
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Adivi
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Let R be the radius of the earth. To cover mount everest, we'd need about 4*pi/3*((R + 8,848)^3 - R^3) cubic meters of water (where 8,848 is the height of mount everest); this works out to be about 4.52 billion cubic kilometers. Earth's oceans are about 1.37 billion cubic meters. (source: http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2001/SyedQadri.shtml).
Also, I just looked in this book called Evolution vs. Creationism; it cites an article from the Journal of Geological Education which gives a 4.4 billion cubic km figure, so I was about right. And in order for all that to come from the earth, the crust's porosity would have to be about 50%, when actual estimates put it at closer to 1%. For those of you who're curious, the specific article is titled "Physical Constraints on the Noachian Deluge".
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TroubleShooter43
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Logic_Fault, thanks for the link. So, AV wants to create apples ex nihilo. Talk about a god delusion...
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tanzanos
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Logic_Fault, thanks for the link. So, AV wants to create apples ex nihilo. Talk about a god delusion...
If you need counseling after reading AV's replies feel free to seek it amongst us; Sane people against AV1's apple challenge anonymous
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EnemyPartyII
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Do NOT take the Apple! Walk away slowly... smile, nod and back away... Do NOT attempt to engage subject in critical logical discussion, I repeat, do NOT!
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