What one should understand is that the beast; the man of sin, that is, is all that was described, not just an eigth king. He is of the seven, that means his spirit belonged to seven others; five of whom had fallen, one was still alive at the writing of revelation, and a future king. Now the mystery is that the beast was, is not, and will come up out of the abyss and go to his destruction.Justme said:Hi ICF,
THe beast was around, then it was thown in the abyss. That is if you consider the beast to be evil or the devil, Satan.
It was and is not, but will be again. It is let out or awhile at the end of the 1000 years. If you consider the events to be 70 ad stuff well then the fifth king would be Nero who's name calculates to 666 I understand. It would make sense for John not to publically put forth the name of the Emporor w... ho is killing christians by the dozens just because they are christians, thus John codes it as 666. That then could be taken as the eigth king who was really one of the seven. Nero was the anti christ. It also dates the writing of Revelation to 68 AD circa.
All of that would also fit with Luke 21 as it states that the abomination would actually be an army....Nero's army.
I don't want to get into these kings right away, I want to look at all possible combinations of rulers who may fit in for the present time. People are pushing that these are the end times. To be the end times there have to be five rulers gone and one that IS.....Does that situation exist today. If it doesn't, this talk of present endtimes is hogwash. Plain and simple.
Justme
Again, I say the beast was, and yet is. That means the beast as the eighth king was not alive during the writing of revelation. But the spirit of the beast was alive in five kings before the writing of revelation, was in the one who was currently in rule, and the one who will come and go to his destruction.
I would think that the eighth king is the seventh king and the seventh king recieves the mortal wound and is healed.
The beast is also the ten kings because these have one mind and that is to give their authority to the beast for one hour. These will also make war against the Lamb and will fail because Jesus Christ is King of kings and Lord of lords. Why would John describe the beast as seven heads and ten horns; meaning seven kings and ten kings, if the did not compose the beast. The 'nature of the beast' belongs to all these kings, because they are opposed to Christ, thus making them antichrists and followers of Satan, whom himself opposes Christ.
Nero was not the man of sin we are watching for, because he persecuted the saints but did not do away with the law. Remember that the man of sin attempts to change the law. This, as Paul said, is done by apostasy. Because people will want others to tell them what their itching ears want and what pleases their lifestyles. Lawlessness can only abound where there is no love for the truth. The man of sin will attempt to change the law and ordinances and will persecute the believers. Whether Nero was of the beast during the time John recieved this revelation is beyond me, but Nero is not exactly the 'man of sin' we are specifically watching for.
The Lord Bless you, amen.
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