Explain the seals of Revelation.

[Purge187]

But like I said, it's just one take on prophecy.

The first few seals could be man's wrath exclusively, or it could be God using man to bring about his judgment against a world with which He has run out of patience. If it's the latter, than a pre-Trib rapture would make more sense, since God hasn't appointed us to any wrath that wasn't taken by Jesus at Calvary.

 

[iamlamad]

But like I said, it's just one take on prophecy.

The first few seals could be man's wrath exclusively, or it could be God using man to bring about his judgment against a world with which He has run out of patience. If it's the latter, than a pre-Trib rapture would make more sense, since God hasn't appointed us to any wrath that wasn't taken by Jesus at Calvary.

How can the first seal be anyone's wrath? It is the church sent out to make disciples.


LAMAD

 

[interpreter]

Regarding "Hitler the antichrist", any mistaken teaching which claims that the Antichrist has already come and gone could be employed in the future by the real Antichrist to fool some Christians into thinking that he isn't the Antichrist.

Hitler didn't fulfill the detailed references to the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of the beast) in Revelation 13:4-18, Revelation 16:2-16, Revelation 19:19-21, and Revelation 20:4. Also, Hitler didn't fulfill other prophecies regarding the Antichrist (e.g. 2 Thessalonians 2:3-9, Daniel 11:31,36; cf. Matthew 24:15). The detailed prophecies regarding the Antichrist, just as the rest of the tribulation prophecies of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, have never been fulfilled.

LOL. No one is coming in the future who could possibly be worse than Hitler who killed millions of God's two witnesses (Christians and Jews). The fact that we are now experiencing the 7 last plagues is proof that the antichrist and the great tribulation have already come and gone.

 

[mark kennedy]

But like I said, it's just one take on prophecy.

The first few seals could be man's wrath exclusively, or it could be God using man to bring about his judgment against a world with which He has run out of patience. If it's the latter, than a pre-Trib rapture would make more sense, since God hasn't appointed us to any wrath that wasn't taken by Jesus at Calvary.

Well, consider the title of the book, The Revelation...

One of the things being revealed is sin and this Antichrist guy is one of the first things to happen during the 7 year Tribulation. In order to get to the meat of what is revealed just ask yourself one very important question, what insights do you gain about your own nature from this?

There's a ton of New Testament and Old Testament revelation involved but think about it. We are talking about 7 years some time in the future, what was the actual message to countless Christians who didn't live to see these events unfold?

I'll tell you what, if you are taking any of this seriously try looking at the opening chapters of Romans, just read the first few chapters. You'll never understand the Revelation (AKA book of Revelations) until you start to think about it as a mirror.

Now, consider this, there are three verses here that use the same word:

Genesis: (Strong's G1078 γένεσις source, origin) one's lineage, i.e. in which his ancestry or progeny are enumerated, used of birth, nativity. That which follows origin, viz. existence, life. The wheel of life (Jas 3:6), other explain it, the wheel of human origin which as soon as men are born begins to run, i.e. its course of life.

The book of the generation (G1078) of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. (Mat 1:1)

For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural (G1078) face in a glass: (Jam 1:23)

And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; (G1078) and it is set on fire of hell. (Jam 3:6)​

The original insight you were working from was a simple enough one, the 'wrath of man', and it's a good one. The seven seals are revealing something about this, based on what your perception originally was, do you see a potential basis for an exposition of the text here?

Work with me on this a little and I think you might manage a very important principle, one that could open a lot of these passages up for you. Just look at this term, what it means and how it's used. Then take a minute to consider what it's telling us about human nature because it's something you already know. I know you do because you had to repent of it in order to become a Christian.

Grace and peace,
Mark

 

[shturt678s]

But like I said, it's just one take on prophecy.

The first few seals could be man's wrath exclusively, or it could be God using man to bring about his judgment against a world with which He has run out of patience.

You're not aware how close you came minus the pre-, mid-, and post- tribulation stuff of course. The Word (Scriptures) ride forth to conquer by its own power, ie, the Word conquers alone, and its the holy Word that much come first. It's been riding out against the enemies of the Lamb for a longggg time in the sense or Rom.1:18.

If it's the latter, than a pre-Trib rapture would make more sense, since God hasn't appointed us to any wrath that wasn't taken by Jesus at Calvary.

Old Jack trying not to be an enemy of the Lamb.

 

[Bible2]

interpreter said in post 263:

No one is coming in the future who could possibly be worse than Hitler who killed millions of God's two witnesses (Christians and Jews).

The Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast") will be worse than Hitler in two ways. First, he will be given power over every nation on the earth (Revelation 13:7b). And, second, he will make war against and overcome physically (by beheading) every Christian he can get his hands on throughout the earth (Revelation 13:7-10, Revelation 14:12-13, Revelation 20:4-6, Mathew 24:9-13).

interpreter said in post 263:

No one is coming in the future who could possibly be worse than Hitler who killed millions of God's two witnesses (Christians and Jews).

In Revelation 11:3-12, the two witnesses aren't Christians and Jews, but could be Moses and Elijah. For the two individual men seen "standing before the God of the earth" (Revelation 11:4) at the transfiguration were Moses and Elijah (Matthew 17:3). And in Revelation 11:4. the "two olive trees" refer back to the two men who were already standing by the Lord by the time of the prophet Zechariah (Zechariah 4:11,14), which was subsequent to the times of Moses and Elijah.

Moses and Elijah could come down from heaven in their mortal bodies at the midpoint of the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, just as they came down at the transfiguration. Also, the plagues that the two witnesses will cause (Revelation 11:6,5) will match plagues that Moses and Elijah caused in Old Testament times (James 5:17, Exodus 7:20; 2 Kings 1:10-14).

Elijah never died, but was taken bodily into heaven (2 Kings 2:11b). And Michael retrieved Moses' dead body from Satan (Jude 1:9). Michael could have then taken Moses' body into heaven, where it could have been resuscitated back to mortal life, like, for example, Lazarus' dead body was resuscitated back to mortal life (John 12:1). This would explain how both Moses and Elijah could appear alive and well at the transfiguration (Matthew 17:3).

The two witnesses will prophesy and bring plagues on the world during the future, literal 3.5 years (Revelation 11:2b,3,6) of the Antichrist's worldwide reign (Revelation 13:5,7, Revelation 12:6,14), which will be in the latter half of the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24. That's why the Antichrist's reign will legally end (Revelation 11:15) right after the time of the two witnesses on the earth will end (Revelation 11:12-15). The plagues that they will bring (Revelation 11:6) will be part of the tribulation's 2nd woe/6th trumpet (Revelation 11:14, Revelation 9:12-13). They will be taken up to heaven before the tribulation's 7th trumpet sounds (Revelation 11:12,15).

They may not be witnesses in the sense of evangelizing the world (Acts 1:8). For the original Greek word (martus, G3144) translated as "witnesses" (Revelation 11:3) can also refer to those who witness against people and bring punishment against them (Acts 7:58). The reason that there will be two witnesses (Revelation 11:3) who will bring plagues to torment the unrepentant world (Revelation 11:6,10b) would be because two witnesses are required to bring judgment against people (1 Timothy 5:19). At the same time, the two "witnesses" could be called that because both of them will be martyred (Revelation 11:7-9). For the same Greek word translated as "witnesses" (Revelation 11:3) can refer to "martyrs" (Revelation 17:6).

interpreter said in post 263:

The fact that we are now experiencing the 7 last plagues is proof that the antichrist and the great tribulation have already come and gone.

The world won't experience the 7 last plagues of the 7 vials of God's wrath (Revelation chapters 15-16), the last stage of the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, until after the never-fulfilled Revelation chapters 6 to 15 have been fulfilled. At the first vial, an awful sore will appear on only those people who will have received the Antichrist's mark and worshipped his image (Revelation 16:2). At the 2nd vial, the sea will become like the blood of a dead man, and every living creature in the sea will die (Revelation 16:3). At the 3rd vial, all surface sources of fresh water will become blood (Revelation 16:4). At the 4th vial, men will be scorched with fire shot out from the sun (Revelation 16:8). This would be a solar-flare coronal mass ejection of solar plasma, which could make its way down to the surface of the earth due to the earth's magnetic field being disrupted during a magnetic-pole reversal which could occur near the end of the future tribulation.

At the 5th vial, the whole world will be plunged into literal darkness (Revelation 16:10). At the 6th vial, unclean spirits like frogs will come out of the mouths of Lucifer (the dragon, Satan: Revelation 12:9), and the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of the beast), and the False Prophet (Revelation 16:13). And these unclean spirits like frogs will go forth and perform amazing miracles to convince the world's armies to gather together in an attempt to defeat YHWH God (Revelation 16:14, Revelation 19:19). The Euphrates will dry up so that the armies of "the kings of the east" (Revelation 16:12) (i.e. the vast armies of China, India, Pakistan, Japan, Iran, Indonesia) can easily cross the riverbed and gather at the "place" called Armageddon (Revelation 16:16) (Har Megiddo: Mount Megiddo in northern Israel). Once they have gathered there, as only a staging area, with all the other armies of the world (Revelation 16:14,16), they won't wage battle there (that is why the Bible doesn't refer to a "battle" of Armageddon). Instead, they will travel south to pillage Jerusalem, right before Jesus returns and defeats them (Zechariah 14:2-21, Revelation 19:19-21).

At the 7th vial, right before Jesus returns (Revelation 16:17,19, Revelation 19:2-21), there will be a huge earthquake which will affect the whole world (Revelation 16:18-20), and 100-pound hailstones will pummel the earth (Revelation 16:21). The 7th vial will also be when Revelation's symbolic (and worldwide) "Babylon" (Revelation chapters 17-18) will be destroyed (Revelation 16:19).

 

[interpreter]

The Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast") will be worse than Hitler in two ways. First, he will be given power over every nation on the earth (Revelation 13:7b). And, second, he will make war against and overcome physically (by beheading) every Christian he can get his hands on throughout the earth (Revelation 13:7-10, Revelation 14:12-13, Revelation 20:4-6, Mathew 24:9-13).



In Revelation 11:3-12, the two witnesses aren't Christians and Jews, but could be Moses and Elijah. For the two individual men seen "standing before the God of the earth" (Revelation 11:4) at the transfiguration were Moses and Elijah (Matthew 17:3). And in Revelation 11:4. the "two olive trees" refer back to the two men who were already standing by the Lord by the time of the prophet Zechariah (Zechariah 4:11,14), which was subsequent to the times of Moses and Elijah.

Moses and Elijah could come down from heaven in their mortal bodies at the midpoint of the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, just as they came down at the transfiguration. Also, the plagues that the two witnesses will cause (Revelation 11:6,5) will match plagues that Moses and Elijah caused in Old Testament times (James 5:17, Exodus 7:20; 2 Kings 1:10-14).

Elijah never died, but was taken bodily into heaven (2 Kings 2:11b). And Michael retrieved Moses' dead body from Satan (Jude 1:9). Michael could have then taken Moses' body into heaven, where it could have been resuscitated back to mortal life, like, for example, Lazarus' dead body was resuscitated back to mortal life (John 12:1). This would explain how both Moses and Elijah could appear alive and well at the transfiguration (Matthew 17:3).

The two witnesses will prophesy and bring plagues on the world during the future, literal 3.5 years (Revelation 11:2b,3,6) of the Antichrist's worldwide reign (Revelation 13:5,7, Revelation 12:6,14), which will be in the latter half of the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24. That's why the Antichrist's reign will legally end (Revelation 11:15) right after the time of the two witnesses on the earth will end (Revelation 11:12-15). The plagues that they will bring (Revelation 11:6) will be part of the tribulation's 2nd woe/6th trumpet (Revelation 11:14, Revelation 9:12-13). They will be taken up to heaven before the tribulation's 7th trumpet sounds (Revelation 11:12,15).

They may not be witnesses in the sense of evangelizing the world (Acts 1:8). For the original Greek word (martus, G3144) translated as "witnesses" (Revelation 11:3) can also refer to those who witness against people and bring punishment against them (Acts 7:58). The reason that there will be two witnesses (Revelation 11:3) who will bring plagues to torment the unrepentant world (Revelation 11:6,10b) would be because two witnesses are required to bring judgment against people (1 Timothy 5:19). At the same time, the two "witnesses" could be called that because both of them will be martyred (Revelation 11:7-9). For the same Greek word translated as "witnesses" (Revelation 11:3) can refer to "martyrs" (Revelation 17:6).



The world won't experience the 7 last plagues of the 7 vials of God's wrath (Revelation chapters 15-16), the last stage of the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, until after the never-fulfilled Revelation chapters 6 to 15 have been fulfilled. At the first vial, an awful sore will appear on only those people who will have received the Antichrist's mark and worshipped his image (Revelation 16:2). At the 2nd vial, the sea will become like the blood of a dead man, and every living creature in the sea will die (Revelation 16:3). At the 3rd vial, all surface sources of fresh water will become blood (Revelation 16:4). At the 4th vial, men will be scorched with fire shot out from the sun (Revelation 16:8). This would be a solar-flare coronal mass ejection of solar plasma, which could make its way down to the surface of the earth due to the earth's magnetic field being disrupted during a magnetic-pole reversal which could occur near the end of the future tribulation.

At the 5th vial, the whole world will be plunged into literal darkness (Revelation 16:10). At the 6th vial, unclean spirits like frogs will come out of the mouths of Lucifer (the dragon, Satan: Revelation 12:9), and the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of the beast), and the False Prophet (Revelation 16:13). And these unclean spirits like frogs will go forth and perform amazing miracles to convince the world's armies to gather together in an attempt to defeat YHWH God (Revelation 16:14, Revelation 19:19). The Euphrates will dry up so that the armies of "the kings of the east" (Revelation 16:12) (i.e. the vast armies of China, India, Pakistan, Japan, Iran, Indonesia) can easily cross the riverbed and gather at the "place" called Armageddon (Revelation 16:16) (Har Megiddo: Mount Megiddo in northern Israel). Once they have gathered there, as only a staging area, with all the other armies of the world (Revelation 16:14,16), they won't wage battle there (that is why the Bible doesn't refer to a "battle" of Armageddon). Instead, they will travel south to pillage Jerusalem, right before Jesus returns and defeats them (Zechariah 14:2-21, Revelation 19:19-21).

At the 7th vial, right before Jesus returns (Revelation 16:17,19, Revelation 19:2-21), there will be a huge earthquake which will affect the whole world (Revelation 16:18-20), and 100-pound hailstones will pummel the earth (Revelation 16:21). The 7th vial will also be when Revelation's symbolic (and worldwide) "Babylon" (Revelation chapters 17-18) will be destroyed (Revelation 16:19).

Like I said, the 7 last plagues are now being poured out.
The first plague is skin cancer, which is poured out on Aryans, the image worshipped by Hitler and his followers.
The 2nd plague is red tides which have drastically increased in recent years. Scientists say that at the rate fish or dying, there will be no fish in the earth's seas by 2048.
The third plague is deadly fresh water which describes the deadly brain-eating amoebas now found in most lakes, and in drinking water.
The 4th plague is global warming.
The fifth plague is an increase in atheism and new diseases. The news today is a new polio-like disease is paralyzing California children.
The 6th plague is a drying up of the Euphrates. The lower Euphrates was dry for 9 years, from May 1994 to April 2003, dried up by Saddam Hussein to prepare the way for the kings of the east in what he calls the Mother of All Battles (which is what Muslims call the Battle of Ar Mageddon). He did it with a couple dams and a diversion canal he called "The Mother of All Battles River." It is significant that the Euphrates was dry on 9/11.
The 7th plague is the dropping of hundred-pound "hailstones" on the bad guys in the Battle of Ar Mageddon. The Battle of Ar Mageddon began on 9/11. The US is now dropping hundred-pound bombs on the 7th head of the beast in Afghanistan.

 

[Bible2]

interpreter said in post 267:

The first plague is skin cancer, which is poured out on Aryans, the image worshipped by Hitler and his followers.

In Revelation 16:2, the original Greek word (helkos, G1668) translated as "a sore" means "an ulcer" (Strong's Greek Dictionary). So the sore could be a festering skin ulcer. It could appear right at the place on the skin where people had received the Antichrist's mark on either their right hand or forehead (Revelation 13:16, Revelation 16:2).

interpreter said in post 267:

The first plague is skin cancer, which is poured out on Aryans, the image worshipped by Hitler and his followers.

Most Aryans don't get skin cancer. And skin cancer isn't limited to Aryans, and can be even more deadly in non-Aryans. Also, the first vial (Revelation 16:2) refers to awful sores which don't have to be cancerous, and which will appear on only those people, and on all those people who will have received the Antichrist's mark and worshipped his image (Revelation 16:2). And these people will include all races, for the Antichrist will be worshipped by all races of the earth (Revelation 13:8, Revelation 13:3b-4). Neither the Antichrist, nor his mark, nor his image has come yet (Revelation 13:4-18). So the first vial (Revelation 16:2) can't have happened yet.

interpreter said in post 267:

The first plague is skin cancer, which is poured out on Aryans, the image worshipped by Hitler and his followers.

Regarding "Aryans, the image worshiped by Hitler", are you referring to "the image of the beast" in Revelation 13:15? If so, how do Aryans fulfill the details regarding the image of the beast in Revelation 13:14-15, Revelation 19:20, Revelation 20:4, Revelation 14:9-11, Revelation 16:2, and Revelation 15:2? Why couldn't it be an android image of the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of the beast) which the Antichrist's False Prophet (Revelation 13:11-16, Revelation 19:20) could cause to be made after the Antichrist receives a terrible head wound (Revelation 13:3,14b)? For this injury could leave the Antichrist's facial and bodily appearance permanently marred, and could render him unable to speak clearly, like someone after a bad stroke, so that the Antichrist won't want to appear or speak in public again.

Did you ever see that movie "Dave"? It had a President who was in a coma, so his handlers found a regular guy who looked exactly like the President, and had him be a public stand-in for the President. He was able to speak just like the President did. It could be like that with the Antichrist's image. It could be the Antichrist's "Dave", his double, that appears and speaks (Revelation 13:15) before the world instead of his wounded self. But instead of letting people think that the Antichrist's android image is the Antichrist himself, the False Prophet could tell people from the beginning that the image isn't the Antichrist himself, but still fully represents him.

In Revelation 13:15, the original Greek word translated as "life" or "breath" (pneuma, G4151) can mean "spirit" in the sense of consciousness (1 Corinthians 2:11a, Luke 1:47), so that the android could appear to have a spirit, to have consciousness. The way this could be achieved would be through the android having wireless connections to huge banks of supercomputers running advanced artificial intelligence software. The False Prophet could claim that the Antichrist's consciousness dwells within the android by means of neural networks imprinted with the Antichrist's brain patterns. But this could be a lie, in that the android won't actually have the Antichrist's consciousness, or any true consciousness, but will only appear to have consciousness, by its being able to pass even the most stringent Turing Test. This is a test whereby one speaks with a computer and can't tell whether it has consciousness or not, because all of its answers are the same as if it had consciousness.

But the android's "consciousness" could appear far more advanced than any human's, for it could have access to huge databases containing every fact known to man, so that the android will appear to be omniscient. In this way, it could convince the world that it is not just a machine, but a material incarnation, a machine avatar, of the true God, a literal "deus ex machina", a literal "God from a machine". And this machine "God" could boast not only of his mental powers, but also of his physical powers: he could be extremely strong. And he could boast of the "immortality" of his machine body, which could be made of titanium, covered with some practically-everlasting flesh-like silicone. People could just be completely awestruck by his (what they could call) "omniscient wisdom, his strength, his indestructibility". They could consider him more than worthy of worship by (in their words) "mere humanity, which is so mentally and physically limited, made out of mere flesh and blood, which is so weak and so mortal". The world will actually worship the Antichrist's image (Revelation 13:15), just as it will actually worship Lucifer (the dragon, Satan) and the Antichrist (Revelation 13:4,8, Revelation 12:9).

The Antichrist's image could be placed standing in the holy place (the inner sanctum) of a 3rd Jewish temple in Jerusalem, so that the image will become the abomination of desolation (Matthew 24:15, Daniel 11:31). And in order to make it easy for everyone in the world to be able to see the image and worship it (Revelation 13:15), it could appear on every smartphone, television, computer, GPS navigation system, and electronic billboard at set times each day. And to make it possible for everyone to interact with it personally, it could appear as a computer generated image on each individual's smartphone, speaking in and understanding each individual's language, conversing with each individual with personalized messages and responses devised by supercomputers running artificial intelligence and language software.

And it could discuss with them even the most intimate details of their lives, for it could have access to huge databases compiled by the Antichrist's worldwide intelligence, law enforcement, economic, and health agencies, databases containing all the facts about everyone: who their family and friends are, where they live and work, who their neighbors and coworkers are, how much they make, what cars and properties they own and use, where they go, where they shop, what they buy, where they eat out, what shows and videos they watch, what they read, what they say, what they post on the internet, what their health problems are, etc., so that the Antichrist's image could seem to know everything about everyone.

And the worship of the image could be connected with a daily surveillance and subjugation of everyone. For the image's supercomputers could make his image automatically appear on everyone's smartphone at set times every day to be worshipped. And smartphones contain GPS chips which can be secretly pinged in order to determine the exact location of the smartphones. So when the image appears on everyone's smartphone, the image's supercomputers could ping the GPS chip of everyone's smartphone and know exactly where everyone is.

Also, smartphones contain cameras and microphones, which can be remotely opened secretly in order to see and hear what is going on around the smartphones. So when the image appears on everyone's smartphone, the image's supercomputers could open the cameras and microphones of everyone's smartphone to determine what everyone is doing and saying, and the image could then demand that the individuals worship him as God, saying some set prayer of praise and adoration. And if any individual refuses, the image's supercomputers could detect that individual's noncompliance, and notify the nearest police officers of that individual's exact location, and order the officers to arrest that individual for blasphemy and treason. The offending individual could then be given a chance to be "reformed" (i.e. in a brainwashing camp, or through physical torture, if necessary), but if he proves recalcitrant, he will be executed (Revelation 13:15) by being beheaded (Revelation 20:4).

The beheading process itself could be made into a televised and webcasted spectacle, to serve not only as a dire warning to anyone thinking of refusing to worship the image, but also to serve as an amazingly-horrific entertainment for the masses, like how the ancient Romans made it an entertainment for the masses to gather them into the Colosseum in Rome and let them watch Christians being thrown to lions and devoured alive.

Huge beheading structures could be built, by which twenty "traitors" could be beheaded at one time by one fall of one blade. The "traitors" could be bound in a row along an upright "U"-shaped device with a track for a large guillotine blade, which could start out in a resting position at the top of one side. The blade could be so massive and so sharp, that when it is released, it will easily slice down through 10 necks on one side of the "U" and continue on by its own momentum up the other side of the "U", shearing off another 10 heads. This all could happen so quickly that it will appear as if all 20 heads are struck off almost in unison, followed immediately by 20 geysers of blood rushing out in unison for all the Antichrist's "faithful" to gawk at and cheer over in the comfort of their own homes before their televisions and computers.

Also, immediately after the show is over, at the site where it took place, teams of surgeons could rush in to "harvest" all the fresh organs and other body parts from the beheaded bodies to be used for transplants (beheading being the best way for a body to die if you want to harvest its parts). What is left of the bodies could then be stuffed into shipping containers, which, once full, could be stacked like stones into a gigantic "Pyramid of Death", which could eventually reach some 30 stories high and contain tens of millions of bodies. A huge plaque could be erected in front of the Pyramid that will read: "This is a monument to the shame of YHWH, who created everything to die". (Of course, the truth is that he didn't, for he created Adam and Eve immortal; it wasn't until they sinned that they became mortal: Genesis 2:17. And YHWH will restore immortality to saved humans through Jesus Christ: Romans 6:23. Also, any such plaque would be hypocritical, for it will be the Antichrist who will have murdered the people entombed in the Pyramid, not YHWH. And so it will actually be a monument to how those who hate YHWH and his wisdom, love death: Proverbs 8:36b.)

Regarding the worship of the Antichrist's image, to help foster a group dynamic, every neighborhood and village in the world could be helped to create a group worship center in which everyone in that neighborhood or village will have to gather together at a set time each evening to bow down and prostrate himself or herself before a life-size, lifelike image of the Antichrist, which could be a computer-generated, animated, holographic or widescreen 3D HDTV image of him clothed in beautiful golden robes and standing majestically before them (or sitting on a magnificent golden throne), and speaking computer-generated customized messages to them as a group.

This worship could be accompanied by the most beautiful symphonic music (cf. Daniel 3:5), or whatever is the most beautiful music to the local people, to help them (in the words of the Antichrist's propaganda machine) "be uplifted into the true spirit of praise and worship of our Great Lord and Master. Praised be His Majestic Name forever and ever!", etc. And what with the wonderful music, and all their fellow worshippers around them, and customized messages of encouragement spoken in a deep, soothing voice by a life-size, holographic or 3D HDTV image of the Antichrist to certain members of each "worship group", it could be that some people in each group will start to really get into the evening worship sessions, and even begin to (in their words) "truly feel the Living Presence of our loving God among us, loving us so tenderly, so personally! Oh, how I love Him! He is So Great!"

But the world's worship of the Antichrist's image (Revelation 13:15), no matter how blissful it may become for some people, and the world's worship of the Antichrist and Lucifer (Satan) the dragon (Revelation 13:4, Revelation 12:9), will last for less than 4 years (Revelation 13:5, Daniel 12:11-12) before Jesus Christ returns from heaven and completely defeats the Antichrist and Lucifer and the Antichrist's False Prophet (Revelation 19:20 to 20:3), and Jesus then sets up his own, 1,000-year physical kingdom on the earth with the bodily resurrected church (Revelation 20:4-6, Revelation 5:10, Revelation 2:26-29).

 

[Bible2]

interpreter said in post 267:

The 2nd plague is red tides which have drastically increased in recent years.

Nothing has killed every living creature in the sea (Revelation 16:3b), which would include every living creature that causes red tides. So the 2nd vial can't have happened yet.

interpreter said in post 267:

The third plague is deadly fresh water which describes the deadly brain-eating amoebas now found in most lakes, and in drinking water.

All surface sources of fresh water haven't become blood (Revelation 16:4-6). So the 3rd vial hasn't happened yet.

interpreter said in post 267:

The 4th plague is global warming.

Even though global warming exists, it doesn't cause men to be scorched with fire shot out from the sun (Revelation 16:8). So the 4th vial/plague can't have happened yet. It would be a solar-flare coronal mass ejection of solar plasma which could make its way down to the surface of the earth due to the earth's magnetic field being disrupted during a magnetic pole reversal which could occur near the end of the future tribulation.

interpreter said in post 267:

The fifth plague is an increase in atheism and new diseases.

The darkness of Revelation 16:10 will be literal darkness, like the plague of Exodus 10:21 was literal darkness. Also, there will be no atheism allowed anywhere when the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect the beast) takes over the whole world (Revelation 13:7b) in our future and declares himself to be God (2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36), and the whole unsaved world worships him and Lucifer (Satan, the dragon) (Revelation 13:4,8, Revelation 12:9). Also, Revelation 16:10 says the Antichrist's "kingdom" will be darkened, and his kingdom will include the whole world (Revelation 13:7b). The whole world hasn't been darkened, so the 5th vial hasn't happened yet.

interpreter said in post 267:

The 6th plague is a drying up of the Euphrates.

The Euphrates drying up in Revelation 16:12 has never happened, because it's not referring to only part of the river drying up, but all of it, so that the armies of "the kings of the east" (Revelation 16:12) (that is, the vast armies of China, India, Pakistan, Japan, Iran, Indonesia) can easily cross the dry riverbed and gather for battle in Israel (Revelation 16:14,16, Revelation 19:19-21, Zechariah 14:2-3). That's something else which has never happened. So the sixth seal can't have happened yet.

interpreter said in post 267:

The 7th plague is the dropping of hundred-pound "hailstones" on the bad guys in the Battle of Ar Mageddon. The Battle of Ar Mageddon began on 9/11. The US is now dropping hundred-pound bombs on the 7th head of the beast in Afghanistan.

Revelation 16:21 refers to 100-pound hailstones which will be literal hailstones, just as the plagues of hailstones from God in Exodus 9:25 and Joshua 10:11 were literal hailstones. Also, the 100-pound hailstones in Revelation 16:21 will plague mankind in general, and only after the never-fulfilled first 6 vials have all been fulfilled in our future. Also at the 7th vial, right before Jesus returns (Revelation 16:17,19, Revelation 19:2-21), there will be a huge earthquake which will affect the whole world (Revelation 16:18-20). And Revelation's symbolic (and worldwide) "Babylon" (Revelation chapters 17-18) will be destroyed when the cities of the earth are destroyed at the time of the 7th vial (Revelation 16:19). None of these things has happened yet. So the 7th vial hasn't happened yet.

interpreter said in post 267:

The Battle of Ar Mageddon began on 9/11.

Note that there's no such thing as the "Battle" of Armageddon. Instead, after the armies of the world gather at the "place" called Armageddon (Revelation 16:14,16) (Har Megiddo: Mount Megiddo in northern Israel), they will travel south to pillage Jerusalem, right before Jesus returns and defeats them (Zechariah 14:2-21, Revelation 19:19-21).

 

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vinsight4u said in post 271:

I get from your post that you see the isles the king of the north takes as being part of Africa? Is that because he has taken the south/Egypt, the glorious land/Israel and so he is in that area? It doesn't mention that he has any ships.

In Daniel 11:18 the original Hebrew word ('iy, H0339) translated as "isles" can refer to "coasts" (Strong's Hebrew Dictionary), and so can refer to countries along the coasts of North Africa.

vinsight4u said in post 271:

Where is the United States in all of this war time?

Some people may think the U.S. forces in Iraq or Kuwait would prevent the all-out Iraqi attack on Israel outlined in the "One way this war could happen" part of post 185.

But there could be almost no U.S. forces in Iraq when the war happens (they have already almost completely vacated Iraq, and might never return). And even if they do return before the war happens, they, just as the U.S. forces in Kuwait, would have a hard time justifying to the Iraqi masses the U.S.'s killing of Iraqi troops (starting on their way across the desert to defeat Israel). Also, if the Iraqi Army vacates Iraq in order to defeat Israel (with a promise from Israel-hating Iran not to invade Iraq in the meantime), then if all the U.S. forces in Kuwait (and any which may have returned to Iraq) went chasing westward after the Iraqi Army to attack and weaken it before it reaches Israel, the U.S. would then have to fear Iran invading and occupying a completely-defenseless Iraq (which occupation Iran could justify by saying that it is just there to defend the Iraqi masses from any retaliation by U.S. forces until the Iraqi Army can return from its defeat of Israel), not to mention that it would also leave the U.S.'s own flank in Kuwait dangerously exposed to an Iranian invasion and occupation.

vinsight4u said in post 271:

Where is the United States in all of this war time?

Some people may think the U.S. would be able to counter-attack with its forces in the West and restore Israel and Egypt.

But if the Baathists defeat and occupy Israel and Egypt, and the U.S. begins a counter-attack to "restore" (i.e. to take back) Israel and Egypt by attempting a huge amphibious assault on occupied Egypt, the Baathists could cut the invasion forces to shreds in the sea by firing tens of thousands of rockets and missiles (well-camouflaged and -dispersed on flat roofs in densely populated areas close to shore), resulting in the loss of something like 30,000 U.S. military personnel in a single day. This anti-Inchon could cause a huge uproar among the U.S. public, which could cry out: "What are we doing over there? Who cares about Egypt? And why in the world do the Israelis have to live in that awful region surrounded by so many hateful and powerful enemies? Let all the Israelis come over here to America and live in freedom and peace with us. Why should any more of our precious young men be slaughtered over this madness in the Middle East?"

And so the U.S. could withdraw from attempting any more counter-attacks to "restore" Israel and Egypt. Also, a bankruptcy of the U.S. government at this same time because of a massive run on the U.S. dollar after its disastrous failure in the counter-attack could render the U.S. unable for a time to finance any more huge military invasions overseas. The U.S. could instead blockade the Baathists with its huge Navy and call an emergency session of the U.N. Security Council to address the situation. But Russia and China could veto any votes to send in outside forces, saying: "What right does the world have to interfere in this act of Arab self-determination? How is Arab Iraq and Syria invading Arab Palestine and Egypt to establish a free union of Arabs any different than the American North invading the American South during the American Civil War to establish a free union of Americans? Should the U.N. authorize outside forces to invade the U.S. to restore the Confederacy? And how is the Arabs occupying the Jews' ancestral land any different than the U.S. occupying the American Indians' ancestral lands? Should the U.N. authorize outside forces to invade the U.S. to restore the American Indians to their ancestral lands?"

The U.S. could then turn to the U.N. General Assembly, only to have its spokesman hooted and shouted from the podium by a world which is jealous of America's power, and which could say (in its words): "Ha! Ha! Great America is defeated! And no one wants to help it restore its hegemony over the Middle East!" The U.S. could then turn to NATO, only to have the Europeans turn down its request to send the armies of Europe (as they could say) "into the jaws of death, and for what?" Russia and China, seeing America's isolation, could then send in military "advisers" into an ever-expanding "United Arab States" and shore it up with massive amounts of military hardware and training. Oil-thirsty China could do so in exchange for cheap oil, and oil-rich Russia could sell its military hardware in exchange for huge amounts of cash (and just to be able to thumb its nose at a defeated U.S. and keep the U.S. from taking back hegemony over the Middle East).

Ultimately, after the Baathists have completed taking control of the entire Arab Middle East and North Africa, the U.S. could find itself completely blocked out of those regions and all their oil, but could say that it is those regions that are blockaded by the huge U.S. Navy. To get around the U.S. naval blockade, China could lay an oil pipeline from the Middle East to a point on the coast of the Indian Ocean (where oil tankers could get the oil) beyond the blockade. (Also, if most of the U.S. Navy gets deployed to blockade the huge region controlled by the Baathists, China could see that as the time for it to make an all-out attempt to restore Taiwan to mainland Chinese control, and also to take control of every disputed island -- and every oil- and gas-rich undersea territory -- in the South China Sea and the East China Sea.) Russia could get around the U.S. naval blockade by sending into the Middle East and North Africa any military hardware sales it would have delivered by ship, by delivering them instead via rail and trucks crossing the Caucasus and western Iran. And Europe could get around the blockade and obtain oil from the Middle East and North Africa by building a large pipeline across the Bosporus, and possibly even by digging a pipeline tunnel under the Strait of Gibraltar.

vinsight4u said in post 271:

Where is the United States in all of this war time?

Some people may think the U.S. wouldn't create another, and even stronger, Baathist, Saddam Hussein-type military leader of Iraq, knowing full well that he could attack Israel instead of Iran.

But the U.S. could do this for a couple of reasons. First, the U.S. could figure that it really doesn't have any choice about having to build up and trust a new Baathist, Saddam-type military ruler of Iraq, because the U.S. has no other viable option regarding how to put an end to Iran's nuclear weapons program and extremist regime. The war-weary U.S. public won't support an all-out ground invasion of Iran by U.S. soldiers, which could result in many thousands of them being killed and tens of thousands of them being seriously wounded. So the U.S. needs a proxy army; it needs cannon fodder made up of a large number of foreign (i.e. Iraqi) soldiers.

Second, the new Baathist, Saddam-type military ruler of Iraq (who could be put in place in the future by the U.S.) could be extremely shrewd, in that he could be very careful to always assert (even in the privacy of his bedroom, talking alone with his wife; or speaking privately to his son on his smartphone) that he has no interest whatsoever in ever invading any other country but Iran. For he will know that the NSA, the CIA, and the Mossad will be secretly listening in to everything that he says to anyone at any time in any place, via electronic eavesdropping (e.g. by the tapping of all his smartphone signals), and via listening devices hidden throughout all of his offices, cars, homes, favorite restaurants, etc.; and via very well-bribed and/or blackmailed double agents among his closest aides and confidants. So the U.S. and Israel could begin to feel very confident that he is "their man", someone whom they can trust to take out Iran for them, and not cause any trouble anywhere else. (But then he could decide not to invade Iran at all, but Israel and Egypt instead.)

vinsight4u said in post 271:

Why isn't Israel nuking Iraq during this war?

Note that it was said in post 185 that Israel could do that.

Some people may think the Baathists would be deterred from attacking because of Israel's nukes.

But even though Iraq and Syria know of Israel's nuclear weapons and its tendency to retaliate in huge measure against attacks, Iraq and Syria could still decide to make an all-out attack against Israel, for a couple of reasons. First, by that time Iran could have successfully built (or secretly purchased from North Korea) and tested its first nuclear weapon, and have claimed to have built a few more to (in its words) "serve solely for defensive purposes against Israel's nuclear threat". Iraq and Syria could then think that Israel won't use its nuclear weapons against them, even if they do attack Israel with all their conventional forces, because Israel would then have to fear Iran retaliating against Israel with nuclear weapons.

Second, the (possible future) Jewish destruction of the Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque could so enrage the rank and file of the (Muslim) Iraqi and Syrian Armies that they could demand an immediate invasion of Israel, and threaten an all-out revolt against their generals if they refuse to lead them in the attack. Fearing for their own lives at the hands of their own soldiers, the generals could initiate the attack against Israel, figuring that even if Israel goes ahead and nukes Baghdad and Damascus in retaliation for the total defeat of Israel, by that time the Iraqi and Syrian armies will all be in Israel, out of harm's way from Israel's nukes, for Israel isn't going to nuke its own land.

But what good would it do the Baathists to gain "Palestine" and Egypt while losing Baghdad and Damascus to Israeli nukes? The Baathists could figure that the loss of Baghdad and Damascus (which they could evacuate ahead of time) is worth it in order to completely defeat Israel and Egypt, thereby removing much of the foundation of U.S. hegemony over the Arab world. And by the time the U.S. makes its counter-attack to "restore" (i.e. to take back) Israel and Egypt, the Baathists could have become so well dug-in, and so well equipped and advised militarily by the Russians (in the name of "Arab self-determination"), that the U.S. counter-attack to restore Israel and Egypt could fail, and leave the Baathists in control, and in a position to extend their power over all the rest of the Arab nations.

vinsight4u said in post 271:

Why isn't Israel nuking Iraq during this war?

Some people may think the awesome Israeli Air Force would be able to take out any Iraqi forces streaming toward Israel.

But the Israeli Air Force could be unable to hit enough of the massive Iraqi invading force (either with tactical nukes or conventional weapons) to prevent the little territory of Israel from being overrun. For between Baghdad and Israel is a lot of flat desert across which massive numbers of Iraqi tanks, armored personnel carriers, and rapid-fire, rapidly-moving tracked howitzers could stream west toward Israel in very wide and staggered formations, which Israel's Air Force could have difficulty taking out quickly. And interspersed liberally among the Iraqi forces could be large numbers of highly mobile and technically advanced (U.S.-made) Iraqi SAM (surface-to-air missile) units, which could manage to take out most of Israel's Air Force as it is attacking the Iraqi forces. Any Iraqi force configuration which the U.S. will have provided to the Iraqi Army, with the idea of making sure that Iraq could defeat all of Iran's air and ground defenses and overrun Iran's relatively huge territory, could also be capable of (instead) defeating Israel's air and ground defenses to the point of Iraq being able to overrun the little territory of Israel.

 

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Nothing has killed every living creature in the sea (Revelation 16:3b), which would include every living creature that causes red tides. So the 2nd vial can't have happened yet.

We are in the early stages of the 7 plagues. All of the fish in the sea will be dead by 2048, scientists say.

All surface sources of fresh water haven't become blood (Revelation 16:4-6). So the 3rd vial hasn't happened yet.

Like I said, we are in the early stages of the 7 last plagues.

Even though global warming exists, it doesn't cause men to be scorched with fire shot out from the sun (Revelation 16:8). So the 4th vial/plague can't have happened yet. It would be a solar-flare coronal mass ejection of solar plasma which could make its way down to the surface of the earth due to the earth's magnetic field being disrupted during a magnetic pole reversal which could occur near the end of the future tribulation.

Global warming is increasingly causing men to be "scorched."

The darkness of Revelation 16:10 will be literal darkness, like the plague of Exodus 10:21 was literal darkness. Also, there will be no atheism allowed anywhere when the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect the beast) takes over the whole world (Revelation 13:7b) in our future and declares himself to be God (2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36), and the whole unsaved world worships him and Lucifer (Satan, the dragon) (Revelation 13:4,8, Revelation 12:9). Also, Revelation 16:10 says the Antichrist's "kingdom" will be darkened, and his kingdom will include the whole world (Revelation 13:7b). The whole world hasn't been darkened, so the 5th vial hasn't happened yet.

It's talking about the darkness of atheism (and other non-JudeoChristian isms) increasing, especially in Germany.

The Euphrates drying up in Revelation 16:12 has never happened, because it's not referring to only part of the river drying up, but all of it, so that the armies of "the kings of the east" (Revelation 16:12) (that is, the vast armies of China, India, Pakistan, Japan, Iran, Indonesia) can easily cross the dry riverbed and gather for battle in Israel (Revelation 16:14,16, Revelation 19:19-21, Zechariah 14:2-3). That's something else which has never happened. So the sixth seal can't have happened yet.

The dried up portion of the Euphrates need to be only wide enough for an army to pass on dry ground. 50 miles is more than enough.

Revelation 16:21 refers to 100-pound hailstones which will be literal hailstones, just as the plagues of hailstones from God in Exodus 9:25 and Joshua 10:11 were literal hailstones. Also, the 100-pound hailstones in Revelation 16:21 will plague mankind in general, and only after the never-fulfilled first 6 vials have all been fulfilled in our future. Also at the 7th vial, right before Jesus returns (Revelation 16:17,19, Revelation 19:2-21), there will be a huge earthquake which will affect the whole world (Revelation 16:18-20). And Revelation's symbolic (and worldwide) "Babylon" (Revelation chapters 17-18) will be destroyed when the cities of the earth are destroyed at the time of the 7th vial (Revelation 16:19). None of these things has happened yet. So the 7th vial hasn't happened yet.

LOL. Literal hailstones weighing 100 pounds is impossible.

Note that there's no such thing as the "Battle" of Armageddon. Instead, after the armies of the world gather at the "place" called Armageddon (Revelation 16:14,16) (Har Megiddo: Mount Megiddo in northern Israel), they will travel south to pillage Jerusalem, right before Jesus returns and defeats them (Zechariah 14:2-21, Revelation 19:19-21).

Ar Mageddon means City of the Sanctuary. A great battle over Jerusalem, the city of the 3 sanctuaries, is foretold which ends in that great city being divided 3 ways.

 

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In Revelation 16:2, the original Greek word (helkos, G1668) translated as "a sore" means "an ulcer" (Strong's Greek Dictionary). So the sore could be a festering skin ulcer. It could appear right at the place on the skin where people had received the Antichrist's mark on either their right hand or forehead (Revelation 13:16, Revelation 16:2).



Most Aryans don't get skin cancer. And skin cancer isn't limited to Aryans, and can be even more deadly in non-Aryans. Also, the first vial (Revelation 16:2) refers to awful sores which don't have to be cancerous, and which will appear on only those people, and on all those people who will have received the Antichrist's mark and worshipped his image (Revelation 16:2). And these people will include all races, for the Antichrist will be worshipped by all races of the earth (Revelation 13:8, Revelation 13:3b-4). Neither the Antichrist, nor his mark, nor his image has come yet (Revelation 13:4-18). So the first vial (Revelation 16:2) can't have happened yet.



Regarding "Aryans, the image worshiped by Hitler", are you referring to "the image of the beast" in Revelation 13:15? If so, how do Aryans fulfill the details regarding the image of the beast in Revelation 13:14-15, Revelation 19:20, Revelation 20:4, Revelation 14:9-11, Revelation 16:2, and Revelation 15:2? Why couldn't it be an android image of the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of the beast) which the Antichrist's False Prophet (Revelation 13:11-16, Revelation 19:20) could cause to be made after the Antichrist receives a terrible head wound (Revelation 13:3,14b)? For this injury could leave the Antichrist's facial and bodily appearance permanently marred, and could render him unable to speak clearly, like someone after a bad stroke, so that the Antichrist won't want to appear or speak in public again.

Did you ever see that movie "Dave"? It had a President who was in a coma, so his handlers found a regular guy who looked exactly like the President, and had him be a public stand-in for the President. He was able to speak just like the President did. It could be like that with the Antichrist's image. It could be the Antichrist's "Dave", his double, that appears and speaks (Revelation 13:15) before the world instead of his wounded self. But instead of letting people think that the Antichrist's android image is the Antichrist himself, the False Prophet could tell people from the beginning that the image isn't the Antichrist himself, but still fully represents him.

In Revelation 13:15, the original Greek word translated as "life" or "breath" (pneuma, G4151) can mean "spirit" in the sense of consciousness (1 Corinthians 2:11a, Luke 1:47), so that the android could appear to have a spirit, to have consciousness. The way this could be achieved would be through the android having wireless connections to huge banks of supercomputers running advanced artificial intelligence software. The False Prophet could claim that the Antichrist's consciousness dwells within the android by means of neural networks imprinted with the Antichrist's brain patterns. But this could be a lie, in that the android won't actually have the Antichrist's consciousness, or any true consciousness, but will only appear to have consciousness, by its being able to pass even the most stringent Turing Test. This is a test whereby one speaks with a computer and can't tell whether it has consciousness or not, because all of its answers are the same as if it had consciousness.

But the android's "consciousness" could appear far more advanced than any human's, for it could have access to huge databases containing every fact known to man, so that the android will appear to be omniscient. In this way, it could convince the world that it is not just a machine, but a material incarnation, a machine avatar, of the true God, a literal "deus ex machina", a literal "God from a machine". And this machine "God" could boast not only of his mental powers, but also of his physical powers: he could be extremely strong. And he could boast of the "immortality" of his machine body, which could be made of titanium, covered with some practically-everlasting flesh-like silicone. People could just be completely awestruck by his (what they could call) "omniscient wisdom, his strength, his indestructibility". They could consider him more than worthy of worship by (in their words) "mere humanity, which is so mentally and physically limited, made out of mere flesh and blood, which is so weak and so mortal". The world will actually worship the Antichrist's image (Revelation 13:15), just as it will actually worship Lucifer (the dragon, Satan) and the Antichrist (Revelation 13:4,8, Revelation 12:9).

The Antichrist's image could be placed standing in the holy place (the inner sanctum) of a 3rd Jewish temple in Jerusalem, so that the image will become the abomination of desolation (Matthew 24:15, Daniel 11:31). And in order to make it easy for everyone in the world to be able to see the image and worship it (Revelation 13:15), it could appear on every smartphone, television, computer, GPS navigation system, and electronic billboard at set times each day. And to make it possible for everyone to interact with it personally, it could appear as a computer generated image on each individual's smartphone, speaking in and understanding each individual's language, conversing with each individual with personalized messages and responses devised by supercomputers running artificial intelligence and language software.

And it could discuss with them even the most intimate details of their lives, for it could have access to huge databases compiled by the Antichrist's worldwide intelligence, law enforcement, economic, and health agencies, databases containing all the facts about everyone: who their family and friends are, where they live and work, who their neighbors and coworkers are, how much they make, what cars and properties they own and use, where they go, where they shop, what they buy, where they eat out, what shows and videos they watch, what they read, what they say, what they post on the internet, what their health problems are, etc., so that the Antichrist's image could seem to know everything about everyone.

And the worship of the image could be connected with a daily surveillance and subjugation of everyone. For the image's supercomputers could make his image automatically appear on everyone's smartphone at set times every day to be worshipped. And smartphones contain GPS chips which can be secretly pinged in order to determine the exact location of the smartphones. So when the image appears on everyone's smartphone, the image's supercomputers could ping the GPS chip of everyone's smartphone and know exactly where everyone is.

Also, smartphones contain cameras and microphones, which can be remotely opened secretly in order to see and hear what is going on around the smartphones. So when the image appears on everyone's smartphone, the image's supercomputers could open the cameras and microphones of everyone's smartphone to determine what everyone is doing and saying, and the image could then demand that the individuals worship him as God, saying some set prayer of praise and adoration. And if any individual refuses, the image's supercomputers could detect that individual's noncompliance, and notify the nearest police officers of that individual's exact location, and order the officers to arrest that individual for blasphemy and treason. The offending individual could then be given a chance to be "reformed" (i.e. in a brainwashing camp, or through physical torture, if necessary), but if he proves recalcitrant, he will be executed (Revelation 13:15) by being beheaded (Revelation 20:4).

The beheading process itself could be made into a televised and webcasted spectacle, to serve not only as a dire warning to anyone thinking of refusing to worship the image, but also to serve as an amazingly-horrific entertainment for the masses, like how the ancient Romans made it an entertainment for the masses to gather them into the Colosseum in Rome and let them watch Christians being thrown to lions and devoured alive.

Huge beheading structures could be built, by which twenty "traitors" could be beheaded at one time by one fall of one blade. The "traitors" could be bound in a row along an upright "U"-shaped device with a track for a large guillotine blade, which could start out in a resting position at the top of one side. The blade could be so massive and so sharp, that when it is released, it will easily slice down through 10 necks on one side of the "U" and continue on by its own momentum up the other side of the "U", shearing off another 10 heads. This all could happen so quickly that it will appear as if all 20 heads are struck off almost in unison, followed immediately by 20 geysers of blood rushing out in unison for all the Antichrist's "faithful" to gawk at and cheer over in the comfort of their own homes before their televisions and computers.

Also, immediately after the show is over, at the site where it took place, teams of surgeons could rush in to "harvest" all the fresh organs and other body parts from the beheaded bodies to be used for transplants (beheading being the best way for a body to die if you want to harvest its parts). What is left of the bodies could then be stuffed into shipping containers, which, once full, could be stacked like stones into a gigantic "Pyramid of Death", which could eventually reach some 30 stories high and contain tens of millions of bodies. A huge plaque could be erected in front of the Pyramid that will read: "This is a monument to the shame of YHWH, who created everything to die". (Of course, the truth is that he didn't, for he created Adam and Eve immortal; it wasn't until they sinned that they became mortal: Genesis 2:17. And YHWH will restore immortality to saved humans through Jesus Christ: Romans 6:23. Also, any such plaque would be hypocritical, for it will be the Antichrist who will have murdered the people entombed in the Pyramid, not YHWH. And so it will actually be a monument to how those who hate YHWH and his wisdom, love death: Proverbs 8:36b.)

Regarding the worship of the Antichrist's image, to help foster a group dynamic, every neighborhood and village in the world could be helped to create a group worship center in which everyone in that neighborhood or village will have to gather together at a set time each evening to bow down and prostrate himself or herself before a life-size, lifelike image of the Antichrist, which could be a computer-generated, animated, holographic or widescreen 3D HDTV image of him clothed in beautiful golden robes and standing majestically before them (or sitting on a magnificent golden throne), and speaking computer-generated customized messages to them as a group.

This worship could be accompanied by the most beautiful symphonic music (cf. Daniel 3:5), or whatever is the most beautiful music to the local people, to help them (in the words of the Antichrist's propaganda machine) "be uplifted into the true spirit of praise and worship of our Great Lord and Master. Praised be His Majestic Name forever and ever!", etc. And what with the wonderful music, and all their fellow worshippers around them, and customized messages of encouragement spoken in a deep, soothing voice by a life-size, holographic or 3D HDTV image of the Antichrist to certain members of each "worship group", it could be that some people in each group will start to really get into the evening worship sessions, and even begin to (in their words) "truly feel the Living Presence of our loving God among us, loving us so tenderly, so personally! Oh, how I love Him! He is So Great!"

But the world's worship of the Antichrist's image (Revelation 13:15), no matter how blissful it may become for some people, and the world's worship of the Antichrist and Lucifer (Satan) the dragon (Revelation 13:4, Revelation 12:9), will last for less than 4 years (Revelation 13:5, Daniel 12:11-12) before Jesus Christ returns from heaven and completely defeats the Antichrist and Lucifer and the Antichrist's False Prophet (Revelation 19:20 to 20:3), and Jesus then sets up his own, 1,000-year physical kingdom on the earth with the bodily resurrected church (Revelation 20:4-6, Revelation 5:10, Revelation 2:26-29).

Most Aryans do get skin cancer if they live long enough, especially those who worship the suntanned Aryan image.

 

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interpreter said in post 274:

Literal hailstones weighing 100 pounds is impossible.

Nothing is impossible with God (Mark 10:27). He's all-powerful (Jeremiah 32:17). So he could easily generate powerful-enough updrafts, or send forth angels, to keep 100-pound hailstones aloft before he casts them down upon the world (Revelation 16:21).

interpreter said in post 274:

Ar Mageddon means City of the Sanctuary. A great battle over Jerusalem, the city of the 3 sanctuaries, is foretold which ends in that great city being divided 3 ways.

Per Strong's Concordance and Greek and Hebrew Dictionary, in Revelation 16:16 the original Greek word "Armageddon" (G0717) comes from the Hebrew words "har" (H2022) and "Megiddown" (H4023).

The Hebrew word "har" (H2022) when used before a place name means "the mount of", like it's used in Judges 2:9 to refer to "the mount of" Ephraim. And the Hebrew word "Megiddown" or "Megiddow" (H4023) refers to the place called "Megiddo", which is in northern Israel (Joshua 17:11, Judges 1:27, Judges 5:19; 1 Chronicles 7:29).

So "Armageddon" (G0717), "har" (H2022) "Megiddown" (H4023), refers to the "the mount of Megiddo". This is a hill that overlooks a large valley in northern Israel. It's in this valley of Armageddon that the world's armies will gather (Revelation 16:14,16), using it as only a staging area before they proceed south to pillage Jerusalem right before Jesus returns and defeats them (Zechariah 14:2-21, Revelation 19:19-21).

The Hebrew word "Megiddown" or "Megiddow" (H4023) means "rendezvous" (Strong's Hebrew Dictionary), as it's derived from the Hebrew word "gadad" (H1413) which can be translated as "gather themselves together" (Psalms 94:21) or "gather thyself in troops" (Micah 5:1) or "assembled themselves by troops" (Jeremiah 5:7).

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A great battle over Jerusalem, the city of the 3 sanctuaries, is foretold which ends in that great city being divided 3 ways.

At the end of the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, as a result of a literal earthquake which will occur at that time, Jerusalem will be split into 3 parts topographically (Revelation 16:18b-19a), just as subsequently at Jesus' 2nd coming, he will split the Mount of Olives into two parts topographically (Zechariah 14:4) and will make other topographical changes to Jerusalem (Zechariah 14:10).

Even today, "The Jerusalem municipality is installing the country's most advanced network of sensors to warn of potential earthquakes"; "local geologists have warned that the region is due for a major earthquake" ( Earthquake Sensors Installed in Jerusalem Schools - Inside Israel - News - Israel National News ).

Near the start of the future tribulation there could be a major earthquake in Jerusalem which could damage the Muslim structures on the Temple Mount so badly that the ultra-Orthodox Jews in Israel could see it as a sign from God the time has come for them to remove those structures (or their rubble) and build a 3rd Jewish temple there.

 

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Nothing is impossible with God (Mark 10:27). He's all-powerful (Jeremiah 32:17). So he could easily generate powerful-enough updrafts, or send forth angels, to keep 100-pound hailstones aloft before he casts them down upon the world (Revelation 16:21).

We are now dropping 100 pound "hailstones" on the Taliban who are part of the 7th head of the beast.

Per Strong's Concordance and Greek and Hebrew Dictionary, in Revelation 16:16 the original Greek word "Armageddon" (G0717) comes from the Hebrew words "har" (H2022) and "Megiddown" (H4023).

The Hebrew word "har" (H2022) when used before a place name means "the mount of", like it's used in Judges 2:9 to refer to "the mount of" Ephraim. And the Hebrew word "Megiddown" or "Megiddow" (H4023) refers to the place called "Megiddo", which is in northern Israel (Joshua 17:11, Judges 1:27, Judges 5:19; 1 Chronicles 7:29).

So "Armageddon" (G0717), "har" (H2022) "Megiddown" (H4023), refers to the "the mount of Megiddo". This is a hill that overlooks a large valley in northern Israel. It's in this valley of Armageddon that the world's armies will gather (Revelation 16:14,16), using it as only a staging area before they proceed south to pillage Jerusalem right before Jesus returns and defeats them (Zechariah 14:2-21, Revelation 19:19-21).

The Hebrew word "Megiddown" or "Megiddow" (H4023) means "rendezvous" (Strong's Hebrew Dictionary), as it's derived from the Hebrew word "gadad" (H1413) which can be translated as "gather themselves together" (Psalms 94:21) or "gather thyself in troops" (Micah 5:1) or "assembled themselves by troops" (Jeremiah 5:7).

It's Ar not Har and Ar means city. Megiddo or megiddon means sanctuary.

At the end of the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, as a result of a literal earthquake which will occur at that time, Jerusalem will be split into 3 parts topographically (Revelation 16:18b-19a), just as subsequently at Jesus' 2nd coming, he will split the Mount of Olives into two parts topographically (Zechariah 14:4) and will make other topographical changes to Jerusalem (Zechariah 14:10).

Even today, "The Jerusalem municipality is installing the country's most advanced network of sensors to warn of potential earthquakes"; "local geologists have warned that the region is due for a major earthquake" ( Earthquake Sensors Installed in Jerusalem Schools - Inside Israel - News - Israel National News ).

Near the start of the future tribulation there could be a major earthquake in Jerusalem which could damage the Muslim structures on the Temple Mount so badly that the ultra-Orthodox Jews in Israel could see it as a sign from God the time has come for them to remove those structures (or their rubble) and build a 3rd Jewish temple there.

In the Revelation, a great earthquake is a great war. And it is fought over Jerusalem, the city of the three sanctuaries.

 

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