Explain the seals of Revelation.

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Very difficult to do. I would say your connections are tenuous, at best, and we need to avoid drawing conclusions from flimsy evidence. The seals pretty much explain themselves. Some of the seals may encompass all of history or some may refer specifically to the time of the end (such as the sixth seal, for example). It is very difficult to know whether the 1st-5th seals encompass history or refer specifically to the time of the end.
 
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The first point would be that these seals are from Daniel's prophecy as he was told in Daniel 12:9:
9 He said, “Go your way, Daniel, for these words are concealed and sealed up until the end time.

What "end time" is the angel speaking of? That is answered in Daniel 12:1 where it's the people of Israel:
“Now at that time Michael, the great prince who stands guard over the sons of your people, will arise. And there will be a time of distress such as never occurred since there was a nation until that time; and at that time your people, everyone who is found written in the book, will be rescued.

Compare that to what Jesus said in Matthew 24:12:
21 For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.

So the seals are on this very book that was sealed up from Daniel! Jesus receives it in Revelation 5...and He starts to break the seals in Revelation 6.

As Jesus breaks the seals Matthew 24 begins...it culminates in Jerusalem's and the temple destruction, as well as the Roman diaspora of Israel!!!
 
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The first point would be that these seals are from Daniel's prophecy as he was told in Daniel 12:9:
9 He said, “Go your way, Daniel, for these words are concealed and sealed up until the end time.

No they are not.

Michael told Daniel to seal the visions because it wasn't for his time.

Has NOTHING to do with the seals in revelation.

Dan 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

Dan 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words(the prophecy he just gave Daniel) are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

Ironically, which is why you have prophecy so backwards, literally.
 
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vinsight4u said in post 1:

Explain the seals of Revelation.

Regarding the 1st seal's horseman, on the white horse (Revelation 6:1-2), that could represent the gospel of Jesus (not Jesus himself: Acts 3:21) going forth to all nations and victoriously saving souls. For Jesus is the rider on the white horse seen later in Revelation 19:11,13 (cf. John 1:1,14), and his gospel will be preached to all nations during the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24 (Matthew 24:14, Revelation 14:6). The bow (Revelation 6:2) is a weapon that is able to affect things far away, just as the gospel is able to affect things far away from where it began (Luke 24:47).

The last 3 of the 4 horsemen (Revelation 6:4-8) represent a horrible future war which will begin the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, which war will, with its aftermath of famines and epidemics, end up killing 1/4 of the world (Revelation 6:8). The "great sword" of this war (Revelation 6:4) could be Israel's nuclear weapons.

One way this war could happen is the U.S. could build up the Iraqi Army until it's huge enough and well-equipped enough to serve as a proxy army, for the U.S. and Israel, for an all-out ground invasion of Iran, in order to end Iran's nuclear weapons program and extremist regime. As part of the buildup of the Iraqi Army, the U.S. could reinstall some of the former Baathist military hierarchy to run the Iraqi Army more efficiently and ruthlessly. And if the current Shiite-dominated government of Iraq balks at any invasion of fellow-Shiite Iran, this could lead the CIA, the Mossad, and possibly also (Sunni Arab) Saudi Intelligence, to bring about a Baathist coup d'etat in Iraq. For all 3 of these intelligence agencies would love for Iraq to attack their common mortal foe Iran, and the Iraqi Baathists could agree to do this, for they see non-Arab Iran as a great enemy of Arab autonomy.

To help get the Iraqi masses and the world behind the idea of an all-out Iraqi invasion of Iran, false-flag operations could be managed by the CIA and the Mossad by which it will be made to seem that (non-Arab, Persian) Iran is attacking the Iraqi Sunni Arabs and their little children terroristically with "dirty bombs" made from Iranian-enriched uranium, so that the Iraqi Arab masses will become enraged and begin to call for all-out retaliation against (what they could call) "the vile Persians". And the world could see an Iraqi invasion of Iran as being completely justified by self-defense.

But then, right when Iraq is all ready to invade Iran, the ultra-Orthodox Jews in Israel (who by that time could be led by a great miracle-working false Messiah: cf. Matthew 24:24) could destroy the Muslim Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque (the 3rd-holiest sites in Islam) on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, to prepare the site for the building of a 3rd Jewish temple (Revelation 11:1-2, Matthew 24:15, Daniel 11:31,36; 2 Thessalonians 2:4). This could so enrage Muslims worldwide, including the (Muslim) Iraqi Army, that the Iraqi Baathist Generals could see it as a perfect excuse to abandon the plan to invade huge Iran, and instead (pretending that they're doing so in the name of Islam) turn and send their vast army against the little territory of Israel, completely defeating it (Daniel 11:15-17; in verse 17, the original Hebrew word translated as "daughter" is "bath").

But this wouldn't be the ultimate reason for the Baathist attack, which could continue on south to also defeat and occupy Egypt (Daniel 11:15). For Egypt is ruled by the U.S.-supported Egyptian Army, which the Baathists could see as being a puppet of the U.S., just as they could see Israel as being a colony of the U.S. Baathism's ultimate aim is to unite all Arab lands from Oman to Morocco into one massive, powerful United Arab States free of all foreign hegemony.

The all-out Iraqi attack on Israel could be joined by the entire (Baathist) Syrian Army (with all of its missiles, many tipped with nerve agents), as well as by all of Iran's long-range missiles and all of Hezbollah's and Hamas' missiles and guerrillas. Israel could find itself suddenly attacked from 3 directions at the same time, with tens of thousands of missiles raining down on its cities and military bases, and tens of thousands of Iraqi tanks (meant to defeat and occupy huge Iran) pouring across its borders. As Israel starts to see its little sliver of land completely overrun, and sees that its total defeat is imminent and assured, in retaliation it could drop nuclear bombs on Baghdad, Damascus (Isaiah 17:1), Tehran, and other major cities of Iraq, Syria, and Iran.

There could be so many nuclear explosions sending so much radioactive dust and ash so high into the atmosphere that it could be blown eastward and fall on hugely-populated South Asia, ruining so many crop fields and immune systems there with radiation that 1/4 of the world's population could end up dying from the war and its aftermath of famines and epidemics. This could fulfill the horrible war which (again) will begin the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, which war will, with its aftermath of famines and epidemics, end up killing 1/4 of the world (Revelation 6:4-8). The "great sword" of this war (Revelation 6:4) could be Israel's nuclear weapons. This war could be blamed not only on the religious fundamentalism of Islam and Judaism, but also on religious fundamentalism in general, and so could lead to a worldwide crusade against all forms of religious fundamentalism, including Christian fundamentalism, i.e. the (correct) idea that the Bible is wholly true (2 Timothy 3:16, Matthew 4:4) and that all other religions are cursed (Galatians 1:8-9, John 14:6, John 3:36, Acts 4:12).

vinsight4u said in post 1:

Explain the seals of Revelation.

The 6th seal (Revelation 6:12-14) could be fulfilled in our future by a huge volcanic eruption (possibly of the Yellowstone Caldera) which will occur during only the first stage of the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24. This eruption could begin with a large earthquake (Revelation 6:12), signaling the sudden rising of magma within the volcano. When it erupts, it could shoot so much ash and smoke into the sky that the sun will appear darkened and the moon blood-red (Revelation 6:12b), like happens during large forest fires. The volcano could also shoot blobs of red-hot magma into the sky, which as they fall back down could appear like falling stars (Revelation 6:13). And it could shoot so much super-heated ash and smoke so high and so quickly into the sky that they could form a gigantic mushroom cloud which will make the sky (the first heaven) look like a scroll being rolled up (Revelation 6:14). Earthquakes connected with the eruption could be so large that they set off a chain reaction of other earthquakes in nearby faults and volcanoes, which could set off even more earthquakes further away, and so on, so that earthquakes will end up affecting every mountain and island, moving each of their positions at least a little bit (Revelation 6:14b).
 
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Regarding the 1st seal's horseman, on the white horse (Revelation 6:1-2), that could represent the gospel of Jesus (not Jesus himself: Acts 3:21) going forth to all nations and victoriously saving souls. For Jesus is the rider on the white horse seen later in Revelation 19:11,13 (cf. John 1:1,14), and his gospel will be preached to all nations during the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24 (Matthew 24:14, Revelation 14:6). The bow (Revelation 6:2) is a weapon that is able to affect things far away, just as the gospel is able to affect things far away from where it began (Luke 24:47).

<snip> only for clarity

The former paragraph astonishingly so so close, ie, good job! Most totally miss this.

Humble pie Jack
 
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2nd seal - what should we note?
Well, since the sword is - a great sword, the rider had to be strong to hold it.

How about something from the third seal?
Okay, take a look at how all four beasts are together in this seal.
It is only the third seal time, yet the fourth beast is already there.
John has been going to a place - a place where all four beasts end up.
The fourth beast time is actually starting as a voice in the time of the third seal.


3rd seal - a voice
hurt not the oil and the wine

4th seal - the voice

5th seal - little season

People always try to understand the seals WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING THE CONTEXT.

In this case, the context of the first seal is the vision of the throne room.

Unless this vision is understood, it will be very difficult to understand the seals.

This vision will not be understood as to the Author's intent, unless one can answer three questions correctly:

1) WHY was Jesus not immediately seen at the right hand of the Father the moment John saw into the throne room?

(There are a dozen verses telling us that is where Jesus went.)

2) WHY was "no man found" in the FIRST search John watched to completion and failure?

3) WHY was the Holy Spirit still in the throne room in chapter 4, when Jesus said He would send Him down the moment He ascended?


If we cannot understand these questions and come up with the right answer, we will not understand the TIMING of the seals. Without knowing WHEN the first seal was / is / will be broken, how could we hope to know what it represents?

Actually, Bible2 was VERY CLOSE on seal 1. (Good job, Bible2!)


LAMAD
 
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Rev.6:2 like Apocalyptic type parables needs to be undressed, ie, the white horse & rider, and what is said of him is to be viewed as a composite. "I saw when," etc., properly fixes attention upon the moment of the first great act, ie, the opening of the first Seal; again in v.12 on the moment of the opening of the 6th Seal - combining Context + Text + Grammar + Aspect of the penner John.

The very wording of these two, "And I saw when," etc., distinguishes these two Seals from the intervening 4 and their simpler-phrasing, "And when he opened," etc.

"Seven Seals" indicates what God does in and with the world now, ie, this moment.

Humble Pie Jack's opinion

btw the 1st Seal is the power of the Word of God (Scriptures) conquering the enemies of the Lamb this moment.
 
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The first horseman was St. Constantine who rode a white horse and conquered with a bow. He appeared on the scene when the sign of the Son of Man appeared in the clouds.
The second horseman was Roman Catholic kings who took peace from the earth during the Crusades.
The third horseman was the British Empire which conquered with economics. And the UK was founded by King James who rode a black horse.
The fourth horseman is the US, founded by George Washington who rode a pale horse named Blueskin, Our weapons bring hell and death to the enemies of Jesus.
 
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