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EWTN Statement on Today's Obama Announcement

Discussion in 'One Bread, One Body - Catholic' started by Michie, Feb 10, 2012.

  1. truthHurts77

    truthHurts77 Newbie

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    how totally unconstitutional

    i thought the Supreme Ct was going to rule on this... or have they???
     
  2. Yes, they are expected to issue a ruling by the end of June. If they rule against the President's healthcare plan, then the HHS mandate is null and void.
     
  3. Erose

    Erose Newbie

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    Yeah this is the kicker isn't it. First they promised that the government would not use tax money to fund abortions. Lie. Now they are going to force all of us who are against abortion, contraception, sterilizations, etc. to pay for it though our health insurance premiums.

    Nothing is free and someone sure as hell is going to pay for all of this "free" stuff and it is going to be all of us that are not using all of this free stuff and many of us are against all of this free stuff.

    I guess we can say now that religious freedom in American along with property rights is going to the wayside. Hum, I wonder where the first gulag will be set up.
     
  4. Erose

    Erose Newbie

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    Haven't you got the memo, the Constitution is no longer used by this government, except maybe for toilet paper.
     
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  5. truthHurts77

    truthHurts77 Newbie

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    then all of us please PRAY

    for the Supreme Court
     
  6. truthHurts77

    truthHurts77 Newbie

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    that is why we all need to do what we can to get people to vote this comunist OUT!!!!

    and we all need to PRAY him out!!!
     
  7. JacktheCatholic

    JacktheCatholic Praise be to Jesus Christ. Now and forever.

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    And if they approve it?

    What will that mean for the US of A?

    What will that mean to Christians?

    What will that mean to Catholics?

    Are we strong enough in Christ to uphold our baptismal and confirmation vows?
     
  8. JimR-OCDS

    JimR-OCDS God Cannot Be Grasped, Except Through Love

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    Well remember one thing, it was the Supreme Court whcih ruled against the ballot question in California, which prohibited hospitals from administering health care to illegal immigrants who show up in the ER.

    THat being the case, they're probably not going to rule against the health care mandeate, because it's a measure that will have everyone insure and not burdening the rest of society with expensive ER cost for things like the flu.

    Jim
     
  9. AMDG

    AMDG Tenderized for Christ

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    Jim, you *do* know that this health care mandate is just going to *increase* the overburdening of the ER. Having a piece of paper that says that a person can get health care insurance isn't going to mean much when the people can't find any medical care except the ERs.

    What will it mean for Christians if the mandate is null and void because Obamacare has been overturned? I have this sneaky feeling that until Obama is out of office, Christians are going to have to be very vigilant--I mean after the Supreme Court ruled for freedom of religion in January (that the religious institutions can decide on their own employees without government interference) you'd think Obama would know better than to try to tell religious organizations what to do. Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to learn very easily -- first we have the HHS mandate, and then the "accomodation" (about which he never even spoke to the Bishops much less tried to compromise.)
     
  10. JacktheCatholic

    JacktheCatholic Praise be to Jesus Christ. Now and forever.

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    Yes, if Congress passes this (and Jim is probably correct in thinking they will) then Christians will have to be vigilant and ready to make sacrifices like never before. Now... if Obama gets a 2nd term, I hope the Holy Spirit gives me and my family the strength and courage to be steadfast in our Faith no matter the consequences. :crossrc:
     
  11. JimR-OCDS

    JimR-OCDS God Cannot Be Grasped, Except Through Love

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    No it won't and in fact here in Massachusetts where we have Romney Care, which is essentially the same as Obama Care, the ER's are treating emergencies, rather than common ailments.

    As Romney himself said, and he was right on, before his health care plan, the ER's were over burdened with people who had no health insurance, showing up with the flu and other common illnesses.

    The ER where we had to take my mother, they shut down and told ambulance drivers to go to the next clossest one which was two cities away, because they were over burdened with uninsured people.

    So, you statement is nothing more than fear mongering and not based on reality.


    Why would that be the case? If you have health insurance, you can go to a doctor or health clinic, rather than an ER.


    It will mean the same, millions without health insurance.

    Well, get use to the idea of Obama having a second term, because I don't see any of the republican candidates having a shot at winning in November.

    Also, Obama is still working on the issue of artificial birth control. From what I heard over the week, by the end of the month there will be a conscience exemption clause in the package.

    Jim
     
  12. AMDG

    AMDG Tenderized for Christ

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    Jim, I know whereof I speak. Even as I drive down the street each day, I see doctor's offices that are not taking patients. My own doctor is already cutting down his office appointments so that he can devote his time to the local hospital. (The fact remains that at least a third of the doctors will retire because of this mandate--it's not worth it to them PLUS at least a third are Catholic so will not in good conscience be able to provide health care and that leaves the ERs as the only source of health care even available.)

    You know, I posted a newspaper article (from the capital of my Dem controlled state) about even the rationing that is on line to occur some months back. BTW, I checked it out with my daughter (who is poorer than me and so will be affected the most) and she said that she is already feeling it.

    It's just common sense. "One can't put twelve pounds of flour in a six pound bag."

    BTW, Obama has already blown his cover, he's already tipped his hand by trying to force religions to do things against their conciences. Whether or not there is exemption on the abortifacients, other religions are aware. What is it going to be next. Forcing kosher deli's to serve ham? Rounding up Christians so that they don't bother the secularists? Continuing to destroy the Black families and black religions by telling us what "the gospel according to Obama" is?
     
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  13. Needing_Grace

    Needing_Grace Chief of Sinners

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    Be afraid. Very.

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