Hi there,
So I am thinking about Evolutionary principles and such and one of the main things they say is that there is no end point. This is all well and good but then they throw the baby out with the bathwater and they say "so God is irrelevant". Well the truth is, what we thought "God was" is irrelevant, but "what God is" is way relevant. Why?
God is more evolved than we could ever be. What does this mean? This means that genetic drift in the gene pool, is never more than He already expects, never more than He is capable of directing. If you are going to adapt something, He is already more adapted; if you are going to change form, He has already changed form more. There is no comfort in this, naturally, as it does nothing to allay the need to evolve and the suffering that entails, but it does mean that we can have confidence in the outcome.
This is something that is lacking in the Evolutionist camp. They want to say Evolution goes where it will, does what it will, that there is no rule that it follows, no higher power that it turns to. How mistaken that is. Do we know for example that a bear that grows extra claws was not guided by God to believe in the power of his ferocity? Do we know for another example that a flying possum didn't expand its wing capacity in faith that God would deliver him from trial by it? We do not.
So in fact, Evolution may be a window by which we are about to discover the hidden messages of God, in all of nature. The small caveat of course, is that we do not think it happens by accident. This means two things, in my opinion, one, we did not come from monkeys because God does not change his mind about his children, two, we are not destined for endless change because God does have a goal in mind. These two things set us completely apart from Evolutionists, and yet, if we believe that God evolves, we are still able to communicate with them.
The thing is this is naturally a presumption on scripture that when it says "God never changes" it means "the Evolution of God, from one power to the next, is fixed". This is a very strange statement, even to me (and I have been accused for whatever reason of a lot of strangeness). It suggests that God Himself is on a journey and we are struggling to catch up, to know what to expect from the next phase. Perhaps there is some truth to it, but for now, it is more than believers have ever had to deal with. The fact that the impetus for this change of world view is being imposed from the outside only makes this worse.
So we have it that now, not only do we not "know" God (as Paul taught), but the "God we do not know, is extensively unknown, from one manifestation to the next". Put in this light, it sounds incredible. It sounds as if God does not want to know His children, that He is leaving them in the dust of Evolutionary change. Until you consider that He is still leading His children and in fact, He is guiding them to respond to the next changes in the Evolutionary process - an upper hand in the survival stakes, if you will.
In a way this makes sense, after all, there is no selection pressure for God, how could He not be more advanced than us? If there is no selection pressure applying to you and everywhere around you things you want to live are dying, of course you are going to communicate with them how not to die. And if you communicate that then surely you know how not to die all the more. But what about the heart of the message?
Do we say Christ is evolving? I could go on but at this point I think you will have enough to say of your own. Suffice it to make clear that I have no idea what this means, all I have done is communicate my perception of the problem. The solutions may be many, but for me, the strangest thing is to say not only is the God I believe in changing without me, the thing He has given to me to sustain me, is changing without me. Don't you find that odd? What do you get out of it, after all?
So I am thinking about Evolutionary principles and such and one of the main things they say is that there is no end point. This is all well and good but then they throw the baby out with the bathwater and they say "so God is irrelevant". Well the truth is, what we thought "God was" is irrelevant, but "what God is" is way relevant. Why?
God is more evolved than we could ever be. What does this mean? This means that genetic drift in the gene pool, is never more than He already expects, never more than He is capable of directing. If you are going to adapt something, He is already more adapted; if you are going to change form, He has already changed form more. There is no comfort in this, naturally, as it does nothing to allay the need to evolve and the suffering that entails, but it does mean that we can have confidence in the outcome.
This is something that is lacking in the Evolutionist camp. They want to say Evolution goes where it will, does what it will, that there is no rule that it follows, no higher power that it turns to. How mistaken that is. Do we know for example that a bear that grows extra claws was not guided by God to believe in the power of his ferocity? Do we know for another example that a flying possum didn't expand its wing capacity in faith that God would deliver him from trial by it? We do not.
So in fact, Evolution may be a window by which we are about to discover the hidden messages of God, in all of nature. The small caveat of course, is that we do not think it happens by accident. This means two things, in my opinion, one, we did not come from monkeys because God does not change his mind about his children, two, we are not destined for endless change because God does have a goal in mind. These two things set us completely apart from Evolutionists, and yet, if we believe that God evolves, we are still able to communicate with them.
The thing is this is naturally a presumption on scripture that when it says "God never changes" it means "the Evolution of God, from one power to the next, is fixed". This is a very strange statement, even to me (and I have been accused for whatever reason of a lot of strangeness). It suggests that God Himself is on a journey and we are struggling to catch up, to know what to expect from the next phase. Perhaps there is some truth to it, but for now, it is more than believers have ever had to deal with. The fact that the impetus for this change of world view is being imposed from the outside only makes this worse.
So we have it that now, not only do we not "know" God (as Paul taught), but the "God we do not know, is extensively unknown, from one manifestation to the next". Put in this light, it sounds incredible. It sounds as if God does not want to know His children, that He is leaving them in the dust of Evolutionary change. Until you consider that He is still leading His children and in fact, He is guiding them to respond to the next changes in the Evolutionary process - an upper hand in the survival stakes, if you will.
In a way this makes sense, after all, there is no selection pressure for God, how could He not be more advanced than us? If there is no selection pressure applying to you and everywhere around you things you want to live are dying, of course you are going to communicate with them how not to die. And if you communicate that then surely you know how not to die all the more. But what about the heart of the message?
Do we say Christ is evolving? I could go on but at this point I think you will have enough to say of your own. Suffice it to make clear that I have no idea what this means, all I have done is communicate my perception of the problem. The solutions may be many, but for me, the strangest thing is to say not only is the God I believe in changing without me, the thing He has given to me to sustain me, is changing without me. Don't you find that odd? What do you get out of it, after all?
