Endogenous Retroviruses and Human Evolution v. 2

[DerelictJunction]

Juan might get it.

Remember:

There's a little bit of Juan Valdez in every can.

No. Neither God nor Juan has ever taken any of the money.

 

[DerelictJunction]

I'm sure you wouldn't settle for anythng more.

I'd settle for an explanation of why evidence for the building of creation doesn't match what the evidence would be if God had followed the instructions for building creation.

 

[whois]

What is "significant"? That is what you never seem to address.

one gene can be a significant factor in evolution.
the AB blood group in humans for example.
plus, this single gene will undergo further mutation, duplication, and transposition causing further effects.

From the one paper you did reference, there was only 3 detectable HGT events (other than ERVs) since the human lineage split from the primate common ancestor. Just 3.

let's not forget the 200,000 ERVs.
with all the different games that genes play, i'm surprised you can make anything from it, and you know, you probably COULD make almost anything you want from it.

 

[lasthero]

let's not forget the 200,000 ERVs.
with all the different games that genes play, i'm surprised you can make anything from it, and you know, you probably COULD make almost anything you want from it.

How?

 

[Loudmouth]

one gene can be a significant factor in evolution.

Can be? Were any of the 3 genes inserted into the human lineage by HGT such genes?

the AB blood group in humans for example.

Those are shared by more than just primates. They weren't one of the 3 HGT genes in the human lineage for the primate group.

plus, this single gene will undergo further mutation, duplication, and transposition causing further effects.

Evidence that this happened with any of the 3 genes inserted since the beginning of the primate lineage?

let's not forget the 200,000 ERVs.
with all the different games that genes play, i'm surprised you can make anything from it, and you know, you probably COULD make almost anything you want from it.

Please, show how 200,000 ERVs are mistakenly classed as being orthologous between the human and chimp genome. Show us how non-orthologous ERVs could be made to look orthologous.

 

[Jimmy D]

In this thread I will be presenting evidence supporting the evolution of humans from an ancestor shared with other apes. Specifically, I will be presenting endogenous retroviruses (ERV's) as genetic markers that can be used to scientifically test the hypothesis that humans share a common ancestor with apes, and that our genomes have diverged from those other species in a manner consistent with evolutionary mechanisms.

If someone wants to challenge this argument, they must present observable evidence and a testable hypothesis.

I've only skimmed this thread, has anyone successfully done (or even attempted) this yet?

 

[timewerx]

It's very common for someone to have 3 or more exposures
to information before remembering having read it before.

As an inventor and scientist myself, it is also very common for me to come up with ideas of my own

 

[florida2]

Nothing in nature is random. What we normally call “random” is not truly
random, but only appears so. The randomness is a reflection of our
ignorance about the thing being observed, rather than something inherent
to it.

To be accurate, radioactive decay is random.

 

[SkyWriting]

To be accurate, radioactive decay is random.

Nothing in nature is random. You are correct in that
decay is unpredictable. But nothing is truly random
in nature.

 

[Loudmouth]

I've only skimmed this thread, has anyone successfully done (or even attempted) this yet?

No.

 

[Loudmouth]

Nothing in nature is random. You are correct in that
decay is unpredictable. But nothing is truly random
in nature.

Still waiting for someone to deal with the ERV evidence.

 

[Loudmouth]

Bumpity. I have referenced this thread elsewhere and have encouraged people to post here.

 

[Loudmouth]

I have seen several threads that claim that I have not presented evidence for evolution. Here it is. Start at post 1.

 

[AV1611VET]

I'd settle for an explanation of why evidence for the building of creation doesn't match what the evidence would be if God had followed the instructions for building creation.

According to God's way, no animals would have died.

So if it took a billion years of animal evolution prior to the Fall, God would certainly not have told them to replenish the earth.

It would already be overflowing.

 

[Loudmouth]

According to God's way, no animals would have died.

Actually, that would be according to what people say of God's way.

 

[AV1611VET]

Actually, that would be according to what people say of God's way.

I'm not so sure.

I think TEs believe there was death, decay, and destruction going on well before the Fall.

 

[Loudmouth]

I'm not so sure.

I am very sure. It is people making these claims, unless you think you are God.