Drinking and Hypocrisy...

[Leimeng]

~ Since soo many people are concerned about drinking alcohol or consumption of said nectar in excess, I was wondering if anyone has the same issue with those who consume food in excess? After all, how many sicknesses and financial and family problems and deaths are incurred each year by eating too much?
~ Does the consumption of liquid candy bars (soda) daily bug you?
~ Do you find that God gets any more glory out of people who are so large and out of shape that they cannot walk across a parking lot or up a flight of stairs without being out of breath than He does by people who do or do not drink the occasional adult beverage?
~ Or is it just another example of hypocrisy?
~ Continue to discuss amongst yourselves...

Peace,

Leimeng

Flatulo Ergo Sum ~~~

(***Insert Personal One Liner Here***)

 

[nephilimiyr]

I'm thinking this thread will die real quick because I have seen no one saying the things about drinking alcoholic drinks that you say. Maybe I'm wrong but the ones who said they don't drink gave reasons as that they don't want to or they don't like it. But yeah, discuss amongst yourselves, whoever you are...

 

[Svt4Him]

Even if the op was based on facts, it's not hypocrisy to point out one sin over another. You drink, you get drunk, you may sin. You eat, you get fat, you may sin. You smoke, you may smell like you've been to hell, and you may sin. If I think one of them is a sin for me to do more than another (i.e. because God miraculously set me free from smoking, if I smoke now, it's sin) it doesn't mean I'm a hypocrite towards the others. A hypocrite is one who says drinking is wrong but then takes a pull from the 'secret bottle' in the bottom drawer.

 

[JimB]

I'm thinking this thread will die real quick because I have seen no one saying the things about drinking alcoholic drinks that you say. Maybe I'm wrong but the ones who said they don't drink gave reasons as that they don't want to or they don't like it. But yeah, discuss amongst yourselves, whoever you are...

I think the OP is driving at, is that there is a lot of concern being expressed about the dangers of drinking alcoholic beverages that are not focused on people with over-eating. I drink an occasional beer and maybe a glass of wine but they do not present a problem for me because I only drink one beer or one glass of wine—I do not drink a case of beer or a whole bottle of wine. That would be excess.

But when it comes to eating, I will find myself ordering the 16 oz. rib eye (plus a baked potato with all the trimmings) instead of the petit 9 oz. filet with veggies or the super-giant size, fully-loaded pizza instead of a single slice. And my balloon-size waistline tells me that maybe I am overdoing the eating thing. This is especially true when I discover that my cholesterol levels are too high and have been warned that eating (not drinking) could kill me.

Whatever finger we point at drinkers we need to stand at a mirror and point at our own bloated reflection.

IMO.

~Jim.

People don’t fail; they just give up trying.​

 

[BenAdam]

This is me after I lost some weight.

 

[Alpine]

~ Since soo many people are concerned about drinking alcohol or consumption of said nectar in excess, I was wondering if anyone has the same issue with those who consume food in excess? After all, how many sicknesses and financial and family problems and deaths are incurred each year by eating too much?

Yes, but how many people drive into other people after consuming too much food? How many people abuse their spouses after too much food? How many people stop working and sit around doing nothing because they eat too much food?

Everyone has to eat to survive. One does not have to drink to survive.

 

[SUNSTONE]

Gluttony and the tolerance of gluttony is a major problem in america.

MSN reported an article on some of the problems that come from gluttony.
One point that stood out is that airline companys would actually make a profit if it wasn't for over wieght people.

 

[JimB]

Yes, but how many people drive into other people after consuming too much food? How many people abuse their spouses after too much food? How many people stop working and sit around doing nothing because they eat too much food?

Everyone has to eat to survive. One does not have to drink to survive.

Good point. But one does not have to over-eat to survive.

Still, telling others it is wrong or sinful for them to drink any beverage is a bit over the line and no reason for anyone to impose their values on others.

For why is my liberty judged by another man’s conscience? (1 Cor. 10.29)

Drinking to the point of impaired reflexes and judgment is wrong. I think we all agree on that.

~j~

People don’t fail; they just give up trying.​

 

[Cassidy]

Some overweight people are overweight due to genetics or medical issues...like thyroid problems and Polycystic Ovaries (hormonal). I don't think it's right to look at an overweight person and automatically judge them as being a glutton.

 

[SpiritPsalmist]

While I agree that a lot of people eat way more than what they need not everyone who is overweight is that way because they eat too much. I have a friend who upon spending a great deal of time with me said that of all her friends I was the one who ate the least but I was the one who struggled with the weight. In the past few months I have almost totally cut out pastas and breads and sugars. I have not lost any weight. I cannot afford to gorge on the food I do buy. I make it last....however, I don't lose any weight. I rarely drink a soda or eat a candy bar or whatever else is seen as taboo for a fat person.

Last year I lost 24 pounds and I've managed to somewhat maintain it. It's a battle though. If I ate the way all overweight individuals are portrayed I'm sure I would be even more overweight than I am right now. However, I don't eat like that. I eat less than most of my skinny friends. I have been told by the doctor that I have an inactive metabalism but I don't have the money to get insurance in order to get on the medication which even when I was taking it only caused me to gain weight. For some people it's just not as easy as some skinny people think.

Yes, I think it's wrong to eat more than is needed. It's just that not everyone falls into the assumptions that are made.

 

[JimB]

Some overweight people are overweight due to genetics or medical issues...like thyroid problems and Polycystic Ovaries (hormonal). I don't think it's right to look at an overweight person and automatically judge them as being a glutton.

I agree. But it is just as wrong to assume that everyone who enjoys an occasional beer is destined for alcoholism.

~j~

People don’t fail; they just give up trying.​

 

[Cassidy]

I eat less than most of my skinny friends. I have been told by the doctor that I have an inactive metabalism but I don't have the money to get insurance in order to get on the medication which even when I was taking it only caused me to gain weight. For some people it's just not as easy as some skinny people think.

I know this to be true for some people. Some people can't even eat the same amount as skinny people without gaining...if must be awful! On the flip side you get skinny people who eat like a horse and can't gain the weight at all....I think that would be an overactive metabolism.

 

[SUNSTONE]

Do you listen to your doctor when they tell you that you should get atleast ATLEAST 20 minutes of cardio exercise 3 times a week.
That's the absolute minimum.

You go through a Christian Bootcamp for 6 weeks, eating fish/chicken only 3 times a week and eating oatmeal, rice, veggies(and similar products) and water only. At the same time working out (no running or heavy weight lifting), you'll shrink.

 

[Cassidy]

I agree. But it is just as wrong to assume that everyone who enjoys an occasional beer is destined for alcoholism.

~j~

People don’t fail; they just give up trying.​

Very true!