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Does the Holy Spirit have a truly divine and a truly avian nature?

Discussion in 'The Lord's Table - Liberal Catholics' started by tadoflamb, Jan 11, 2017.

  1. tadoflamb

    tadoflamb Poster Boy

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    Seems to me, that could be the case.
     
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    Martinius Catholic disciple of Jesus

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    I am not surprised "bird boy" would think that way. But one must realize that the Holy Spirit could appear as anything. A dove, yes, but also as a person, in a dream, as thoughts, and in any physical manifestation or "bodily form". So the HS is not avian per se.
     
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    It's interesting that "Jonah" is the Hebrew for "dove"; and that Jesus spoke of Himself as the "sign of Jonah": Luke 11:29-30
     
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    Fish and Bread Dona nobis pacem

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    How long has the symbol of a dove been associated with peace? Would a 1st century Jew speaking of himself as the "sign of Jonah" have been understood by those around him as saying that he is a sign of peace?
     
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    I'm not sure we can answer that question; but if I were to hypothesize, since the day the dove returned to Noah with the olive branch?

    No, they would have understood Jonah being sent to preach the judgment coming to Nineveh, and the call to repentance in the face of judgment.
     
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    Great, you completely dismantled and destroyed my pet heresy in two sentences. Thanks a lot.