There are no accurate scientific facts about the origin of the universe! This is news? No interpretation of Genesis should be contrary to the rest of the bible. No interpretation of Genesis shold make the truth of the order of creation given already in chapter one a lie. No interpretation of the bible anywhere should make God look like a nicompetentpoop God.
What you expect it to be is of zero importance. What we KNOW does matter. Part of what is known is that God is true, whether sillyscience discerns that, or cares..or not.
Explain how believing Jesus created the sun and moon and man from the dust, etc is making God look bad? God can take care of Himself, thanks. All He asks is that we believe.
Doesn't matter what you believe. You have no science, and your idea of creation is sick. God twiddling His thumbs while the big bang creates the universe in a way contrary to His word.
There is an outstanding example of what I was talking about. As it has been a matter of recent discussion, you know full well that I do not subscribe to a view of creation in which God sits back "twiddling his thumbs" while naturalistic processes create and people the universe absent the continuous action of divine providence. As far as I can tell, you repeat this accusation merely to be disagreeable.
What's the difference between a bathroom, and a science forum? Most of us assumed one would know that before posting.
Why not tell us what you subsribe to about creation then, briefly? In the other thread I recall some were basically claiming God created through the big bang and that live evolved and that was supposed to be God creating man. You seemed to be a cheerleader for them, so I assume you have similar views. Clarify.
I don't believe any of that could have gone on without the continuing and sustaining providence of God. The idea of a God who starts thing off and then sits back and twiddles his thumbs is a Deist notion unsuitable for a Christian.
The "Garden" story is an etiological folk myth which survived for an unknown amount of time in oral tradition before it was written down and redacted into the Pentateuch sometime around the end of the Exile. Its inspired author(s) had no idea of the scientific view of how man actually came into existence and no real need to know, anyway, even if they could have comprehended it; they were inspired to follow an entirely different literary agenda which transcended such bald facts.
So that is your best attempt at addressing how we know what the laws were when the meteors crashed, or rock melted on Mercury, or etc. OK. Very good try, don't be discouraged.
No it is front and center. If God wrote a book to man telling He created one way, and you claimed He actually didn't, the natural question is what part do you claim He had in the evolution of man or big bang? What, He clapped hands in a show of amazement? He was busy doing more important things..etc??
Thanks for openly admitting absolute non belief here.
There we have it! The inspired people God used for the bible had it wrong you say!!!!!! Their inspiration then could not be from God. You obviously hold man's silly wrong wisdom above God's word and inspiration of Scripture. The sad thing is, science as it turns out, had it wrong and really did not know after all. Some folks became turncoats for nothing!
You think the natural world stays in existence and runs all by itself, do you?
Yes, I'm a non-believer. I believe in God's authorship of the universe and that He has been active in human affairs throughout history. I believe in my salvation through the real death and bodily resurrection of His son Jesus Christ. Unfortunately I disbelieve in the only really important point of doctrine, the literal inerrancy of Genesis. Thank you for dictating the Christian faith to me.
The sad thing is, science is something you know very little about, as your "dissection" of that science paper clearly shows.
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There's a problem with assuming physical records of the past are not accurate because there is the possibility that some oddly specific past state could have existed which just precisely mimicked what we would see with the laws of physics being reliable. The trouble is "the past" doesn't begin with some distantly removed past. 5 seconds ago is the past. Last tuesday is the past. If you are assuming the events of last tuesday really happened, but not the events of an eon ago, you are essentially drawing some arbitrary line and ignoring everything from before that.
Religious big words aside, yes God wrote a book, much of it is direct quotes of the Almighty, old and new testament, some even done by His finger. Jesus fulfiled the prophesies of that book and confirmed it was from God by rising from the dead. The apostles all knew this.
what does this have to do with the issue of you answering what God was doing in your fable of creation by speck!? Should we take it that you think He possessed the hot soup speck and made it pop out all that is the universe today or something?? Be clear...no matter how ridiculous your position may be.
So the odd appearance in our affairs eh? Ha. Not a real personal Friend and God. Sounds more like a pipe dream.
So the one that raised from the dead was not the One that created the wold and all things as John says? If He was, then why didn't he scold Moses on the mountain that day he appeared to Him and Peter and John?? 'Hey, Mo you really got the record and order of creation wrong..'?? Why did Jesus refer to 'the creation'? If the world was first here, and later the moon sun and stars, then that makes a big bang impossible right there. Forget all the rest of the reasons.
Let me guess, you can't quite say what!!!!!? Like your post clearly shows. I double dare you...
No there isn't. Unless you had knowledge of how it was and could show us, you MAY NOT ASSUME that at all. Let alone build anti Christ fables of another creation on it.
The time when things in the record of Scripture about the past really changed fast and a lot is after the flood, specifically in the days of Peleg. Your last week parable crumbles to dust.
