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Did God Create More Than JUST Adam and Eve?

Discussion in 'Non-denominational' started by Tainted Scrolls, Jul 27, 2013.

  1. Tainted Scrolls

    Tainted Scrolls Newbie

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    So I grew up in a non denominational church and that is still what I consider my faith to be...I don't know if this question falls under our beliefs but I like to ask the question anyway. I run a youtube show but do not get a lot of hits and this is why I bring it here.

    PLEASE keep in mind that I am breaking everything down on a chapter by chapter basis, I did not take into account anything that was written after GEN ch.2 and these videos are not posted to be FACT, they are posted to bring up questions.

    These are a few points I went over.

    Genesis Chapter 2: Did God Create more than just Adam and Eve in the Beginning? - YouTube

    So what do you guys think? You can discuss it here or on the youtube comments either way is fine with me.
     
  2. miamited

    miamited Ted

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    Hi TS,

    On it's face your question is fairly ludicrous. God created everything that is! However, I understand that you mean to limit your question to the human race and so my answer to that would be that God Created the physical form of Adam, Eve, and Jesus, and all of the angels. Although I guess we wouldn't consider the angelic realm to be human.

    That's it!

    God bless you,
    In Christ, Ted
     
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  3. thesunisout

    thesunisout brother Supporter

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    When it talks about God creating Adam in Genesis 2, it is talking about what happened on Day 6. We know that because of what it says in Genesis 2:5

    Gen 2:5 When no bush of the field was yet in the land and no small plant of the field had yet sprung up—for the LORD God had not caused it to rain on the land, and there was no man to work the ground,

    So based on Genesis 2:5 alone your theory about other men being created could not be accurate. What happens in Genesis 2 is that the narrative jumps from describing what happened on the 7th day back to what happened on the 6th day. We first get an overview of the 7 days of creation and then God goes back to highlight some important events that happened when He created man on the 6th day (and possibly many days after that).
     
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    Bjornke Regular Member

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    You know, when I first read Genesis, I too always wondered this. Did God create more than just Adam and Eve because it seemed to me like the number of people rose very rapidly. However, it did cross my mind that perhaps Adam and Eve had more children than what was just show to us and recorded. However, it was very confusing to me at first too. However I have always taken the "just Adam and Eve" stance for a while now. It would appear to me that it makes more sense, since there is mention of just Adam and Eve, otherwise God would have stated Adam and Eve plus Bob and Marry in Asia.

    Thanks,

    Brandon
     
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    intojoy New Member

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    What does the Bible say?
     
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    4LivingCreations Newbie

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    OP, yes, it's possible, but has less spiritual impact than reading under the surface.

    Gen 2 is not a continuance of Gen 1, it is a reiteration of the same process with details on mankind rather than the entirety of creation. The proper break between the two is between 2:3 and 2:4

    FYI, it is possible for all modern races to have come out of genetic quirks along the way since the flood. A recent study shows that all our DNA is altered from an original "black" man's by way of mutation.

    Pushing that aside, the literal story is the hook that can draw one out, but most don't actually bite, because most do not war with spiritual things.

    Read symbolically, just the first day alone describes also the birth of a newborn baby and the subsequent opening of his eyes, the birth of a universe with it's matter and gas and the formation of stars, the start of being "born again", etc.

    The history of mankind up until now is still the sixth day.
    Likewise, the last 1000 years are still the sixth day.
    Mankind is not a finished work until we all love God and each other.

    The entire bible has symbolic and poetic grace, instructions, etc, from God, hidden from those who assign negative attributes to Him and who do not exercise brotherly love.

    You mentioned the word "deep", you are spot on. Read deep and ask Him to teach you His symbolic language. Ask by loving others and doing the works of Christ, and not accusing God of wicked things.

    Peace.
     
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  7. PROPHECYKID

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    It is very possible that God created more people than just Adam and Eve, but this would have happened after the fall of Adam and Eve. There is no way this can be proved from Genesis 1 or 2.

    However, what we notice is that after Cain killed Abel and
    had to flee, there were other people who he joined himself to. These people do not seem to be direct descendants of Adam but I could be wrong there.

    Gen 4:13 And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.
    Gen 4:14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.
    Gen 4:15 And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
    Gen 4:16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
    Gen 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

    So the land of Nod. Cain was the firstborn of Adam. Can found a wife in the land of Nod. Since it does not seem like the only person in the land of Nod was Cain's wife, then there probably were other people created after the fall. That I can only speculate as the bible is not clear on this. But it is possible.
     
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  8. Bjornke

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    One thing the bible is clear about though is that God created mankind.
     
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    intojoy New Member

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    Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. (Romans 5:12-15 KJV)
     
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    intojoy New Member

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    No God did not create more humans besides Adam and Eve, everyone born into this world came from them.
     
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  11. food4thought

    food4thought Loving truth

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    Quite simply, Adam and Eve had many children... MANY children. If you consider that they probably had perfect reproductive systems, Eve probably got pregnant every time they had sex (when she wasn't already pregnant). I seriously doubt it took Adam and Eve a 100 years (more or less) to have sex lol. I think the Bible only mentions those children of Adam and Eve that are of importance to the Biblical narrative... Cain married a sister, or perhaps a niece.

    I agree with the previous poster who mentioned that Genesis 2:5 indicates that there was no other men on earth but Adam. Any other men created before the fall would violate the plain meaning of Romans 5; and I fail to see the need for introducing the idea that God created other men after the fall for pretty much the same reason, and because of the likelihood of Cain marrying within the family.
     
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    Ok taking all that into consideration, I heard two other theories from other people since I have brought this up.

    1)The creation of man was just a metaphor for the fall of man. God saw the earth and it was good(wholesome, perfect, without sin) God created Man...Man Brings sin into the world so on and so forth.

    And this one I heard from a Jewish man...I am not sure if this is a common Jewish belief or just his but...
    2)Eden was a sub type world and was not a physical place here on earth. There was people already here on earth and God created Eve with the intent to cast them to earth to spread the message of God (Save the people of earth) and when he told them not to touch the tree it was more of a "dont you touch that tree guys" with full intent of having them eat of the tree.
     
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    So after further reading I am pretty convinced that Adam was a real man but not convinced that Eden was a real place
     
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  14. BryanW92

    BryanW92 Hey look, it's a squirrel!

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    If you don't believe in a literal 7 day creation (and I don't), then God created animals and the Theory of Evolution claims that man descended from animals (i.e. evolved humans). After that, God creates Man in His image (i.e. created humans, as opposed to the evolved humans). Cain was the son of Adam and Eve and of a pure bloodline to God. The wife from Nod was an evolved human. This would have been the start of a hybrid bloodline that lived alongside the evolved humans. After the flood, Noah's family (with a bloodline back to Adam and God and a bloodline to the evolved humans) survived and none of the purely evolved humans survived.
     
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    Now that is interesting right there. What type of belief would that be called?
     
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    Some variant of Theistic evolutionism (Christians who believe that evolution exists and God has a hand in it. That's just a basic definition that all theistic evolutionists agree on, though they differ on some things, such as whether or not Adam and Eve are historical people or instead allegories, etc).

    If you want to know more about it, you can check it out here

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theistic_evolution
     
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    jpcedotal Old School from the Backwoods - Christian Style

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    The Bible clearly states when allegories and parables and symbolism are present and when they are not.
     
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    Wish I had known about this one earlier. I found your YouTube video, but didn't know it was posted here for comment.

    Couple things you should know about the original hebrew in this one. First, the word translated mankind in Genesis chapter 1 is actually the word, Adam. It's the very same word you find in Genesis chapter 2 for the man Adam. Why do you think that is?

    The answer is pretty straightforward. We are often known by the name of our ancestors. Israel was a person, as well as the name of his descendants. Semites are descendants of Shem. The term hebrew is derived from one of Abraham's ancestor's named Eber.

    But all of us come from Adam, thus this has become the hebrew word for mankind. The term in Genesis 1 cannot possibly be referring to pre-adamite men, as they would not be called Adam. They would be something else. But in Genesis one, we have Adam (man) being made on day six.

    You'll recall that Eve, who was also made on day 6 is also considered Adam. She's a woman, but also an adamite. For she too comes from Adam, namely his rib.

    You see, there's a break in the narratives starting in Genesis 2:5, in which a completely different story starts. The creation narrative is over, and now the writer zooms in on day 6 and man's creation. Rather than talking about plants in general, we now shift to garden plants, plants that grow in the field—cultivated plants—plants that need a farmer. We also are introduced to specific animals that would live in the garden—beasts of the field.

    There is no contradiction between Genesis 1 and 2, merely a change in focus. Hope that helps.
     
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    Men were hunter gatherers before they were farmers so there could have been men on earth that didnt know how to work the land.
     
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    PBA A grateful disciple of Christ's

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    All of humanity after Adam (who was created from dust) and Eve (who was formed from the rib of Adam), originated in Adam and came forth through Eve.
     
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