Death Before the Fall

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What your talking about took place long before Adam and Eve. Satan was thrown out of Heaven and down to the Earth millions of years ago. When God restores creation then the animals will no longer consume each other. "
I've always wondered where exactly it was shown that the enemy was cast down to Earth millions of years before creation.
 
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Herbivores and carnivores are structurally different. It's not that they like to eat different things, it's that their bodies are designed to eat different things.
God designed the animals to be herbivores. "God said, "I have given you every plant with seeds on the face of the earth and every tree that has fruit with seeds. This will be your food." It was after Satan was thrown down to the Earth that the animals began to change. They began to eat and consume one another. This began with the reptiles hundreds of millions of yours ago. Then 6,000 years ago. Adam and Eve joined Satan in his rebellion against God. After creation is restored the animals will not longer eat each other. They will return to being herbivores.
 
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Gxg (G²);62665153 said:
I've always wondered where exactly it was shown that the enemy was cast down to Earth millions of years before creation.
We get this from Science, Isaiah & Kat Kerr talks about this in her book:

Then there is Creation Lab, one of my favorite places to visit! So many amazing things take place there, one being the ability to stand on a platform and watch as God creates the original earth. He has recorded the history of the earth so that we may see 'significant events' as they took place; like the time the dinosaurs roamed and how the Ice Age came to be. I will never forget the day I was caught up and allowed to experience this amazing place. The domed building had many facets in its architecture that gave it a reflective quality. It was emerald in color, with copper highlights. It is a place where you can go and view creation as God unveiled it from the beginning and a place where you practice creating with the creator. There is no visible entrance, but you must use your faith and words to create it. It is very difficult to explain how you do it, but when you get there yourself, you will understand. I would rather take the space here to tell you what I saw when I stepped into the main room and the world we call Earth was born!


First you have to create an entrance to the building by using your faith. This took me a while, but I finally got inside. As I stood in the middle of the room, a platform began to rise up under my feet as excitement rose up in me. A beautiful light came from up above and showered the room in a brilliant hologram. The scene was so real, that I thought if I reached out, I could touch it, God appeared, and the Glory was so great, at first I had to close my eyes and then He began to speak to the void of space and suddenly things began to form and spin in the space (Genesis 1:1). Eventually, the earth appeared and God poured water out of His hand to measure out the ocean. I say 'ocean' because there was only one landmass on the original earth and water surrounded it on all sides. Then He spoke and amazing, strange plants were formed and put into place. The trees were huge, as were the flowers on this new earth. Some blooms were the size of a three story house and the aroma was intoxicating. How fun it was to see God create the different creatures and put them in the sea. He was about to create more animals, but did something else first, He created an atmosphere in which they could live. He spoke and a transparent shield appeared far above in the sky. This shield went completely around the world and covered the whole earth, like a huge bubble. Next, He did an unexpected thing and called forth billions of gallons of water to cover the entire area of the shield. What power that took to put it in place and yet, not one drop goes spinning of into space. Then He called forth a second layer to the shield and placed it over the water to seal it in place. They called it a Water Vapor Shield; which caused a continual heavy mist to come from the shield down onto the earth. Then the Father began to create some of the strangest animals that ever walked this planet- the dinosaurs! Some were skinny and small, about six feet high and then there were those that towered 90 feet high. The continuous mist was necessary to keep the skin of the dinosaurs from cracking and falling off. God continued to create many other creatures like birds that made beautiful sounds and many kinds of fish for the sea. The wonderful thing was that they all lived in harmony with each other, because as in the Garden of Eden, evil had not entered in. How perfect everything was and the sky was a peachy, rosy color, not blue. This effect was created from the water vapor shield and the light above it, filtering through.


Planet Earth looked like a beautiful, multi-colored marble out in space and peace remained (millions of years) until the day everything changed! There was war in Heaven and for the first time, lightning struck the earth with a loud clap! Michael had just kicked Lucifer out of Heaven and he came streaking down to earth. This continued to happen for some time as one third of the angels (whom Lucifer had deceived) were also kicked out of the celestial realm, never to return. Although they were condemned to Hell (in the center of the earth) they eventually began to come to the surface of the earth and defile it. This caused an upheaval on the planet and live was never the same again. Satan (formerly Lucifer) was furious about his failed plan to exalt himself over God's throne and so decided to take over this new earth! It says in Jeremiah 4, that he began to make the earth a wilderness. Evil then entered into the creatures God had made; they became vicious and began to turn from their original state and instead of eating the grasses and fruit they ate each other! The beautiful earth, now being controlled by Lucifer became defiled.


Time passed and when God had enough of the destruction, He did something to stop Lucifer; He caused the Ice Age! I was truly captivated, standing and watching as the mysteries of the ages unfolded before me. At the same time, a little overwhelmed because of the level of revelation being given to me. All of a sudden, I saw the Father reach across space and break the water vapor shield and billions of gallons of water hit the earth. Wham! There went the one land mass, into many pieces, floating across the sea. Some of them overlapping upon each other and burying the dinosaurs between layers of earth. Some of the now new continents formed massive mountains, which at the same time caused deep valleys to form. The water kept coming, until all the earth was completely covered. Then God leaned forward again and blew onto the earth; immediately ice began to form over the surface of the waters and life stopped as the earth, covered in darkness, entered into the Ice Age!


The scene changed (millions of years later as the earth lie dormant under the ice) and I saw streaks of light come from Heaven and the Spirit of God was hovering over the frozen planet, waiting. Then I saw God lean forward and He blew upon the ice and instantly the earth was defrosted. Once again water covered the whole earth (Gen 1:2) and there was no land mass visible to the eye. God spoke again and light was! It was so fantastic, as I watched God

re-create the earth, different atmosphere, animals and even man, but eventually they sent me back down to earth. If you accept Christ and make it to Heaven; you can go to Creation Lab and see this too.
 
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