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Darn reality!

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by nightflight, Dec 26, 2012.

  1. nightflight

    nightflight Veteran

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    Reynolds’ Law « The View from Alexandria
     
  2. JCSr

    JCSr Gunshine State

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    Don't worry. America is quickly becoming third world because that is the way of conservatism.
     
  3. nightflight

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    Conservatives aren't in charge. Don't you read the papers?

    Telling, so telling though that you admit America is heading towards becoming a third-world toilet. Glad to see some honesty from at least one progressive.
     
  4. JCSr

    JCSr Gunshine State

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    No, I don't.

    Yep. It is obvious the way in which the conservatives want to lead the country. It will be the haves and the have nots. The intolerance for the poor is apparent.
     
  5. TScott

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    I think it's typical that the neo-Conservative will only embrace things if they are delivered in the simplest of terms. That is how I see your Reynolds Law. It is also completely inaccurate in describing the modern progressive agenda, which is less to do about giving people middle class status and more about assuring that they at least have the opportunity of obtaining that status.
     
  6. Paradoxum

    Paradoxum Liberty, Equality, Solidarity!

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    What is the problem? Helping people improve their lives (college), is bad? I'm not sure about the reasoning behind the houses.

    What important liberty is being lost for equality? It doesn't seem like a very clear blog post.
     
  7. USincognito

    USincognito Stop QWERTYface! Supporter

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    I, for one, welcome our new third-world toilet overlords.
     
  8. SnowCal

    SnowCal 50 Cent Party

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    Are we really discussing a blog post over 2 years-old?
     
  9. Billnew

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    Consevatives are leading America to a third world status?

    Conservatives are dragging their feet, but they are following the liberals.

    We are not failing because we don't tax enough or spend enough on our poor. We are failing because we give to much away. Which is primarily liberal but conservatives don't mind giving away to get votes.

    We provide support to over 50% of our people, and demand the people that earn the majority of money pay more to those that don't earn money at all.

    We promise people that don't pay taxes to give them a portion of money from people that do to get them to vote for the people running our country into the ground.

    Conservatives want to cut spending? No, Conservatives want to decrease the rate of growth, basically they want to slow our dive into the abyss.

    Liberals want to increase taxes so they can give away more, but not make any meaningful cuts. If they agree to any cuts they will be basically slowing the dive into abyss too.

    The people demand more handouts, the politicians offer more handouts to get votes, the debt always gets bigger and the politician that speaks of reason and reducing handouts can't win.

    When you can vote for Santa or reason, people will go with Santa, even though Santa can't continue to give everything away.

    People seek out shelters and off shore accounts so their money is safe from politicans hands. The more you take from someone able to take their money and leave, the more incentive to leave.
    When the rich leave who will make the payment on the debt? The higher middle class, when they leave or become middle class, who pays next?
    Mid-middle class.

    Sharing the wealth doesn't mean lifting everyone up, it means dragging everyone down to the same level.

    Reality means living with in your means, not borrowing from the bank of China to make our welfare recipients happy.

    Class warfare just hides the inevidable reality, someone has to pay the bill. You take more from the rich, you take more from investments, which means less money to expand, less expansion means unemployment remains high.

    Until we stop electing Santa elephant or Santa a...Donkey, we will not reform. The two will fight to be the best Santa while dropping a few coins to say they made cuts.
    The voters that pay for the benefits are out numbered by the ones that get the benefits, which means the non-earners get to say how much they get to take from the earners. Who cares if we raise taxes, we don't pay taxes. We need more money to live on, so take more from those that make money or just borrow it.
     
  10. EdwinWillers

    EdwinWillers Buh bye!

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    ...only [repeat] the conservatives aren't in charge - progressives are - hence any trends towards third world status are purely a function of their success - and their wholly visible intolerance for the poor.
     
  11. EdwinWillers

    EdwinWillers Buh bye!

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    Darn reality.
     
  12. whatbogsends

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    Because the economic collapse which pushed our descent into overdrive happened under the progressive George Bush, who had a Republican congress for 6 years...
     
  13. JCSr

    JCSr Gunshine State

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    Darn real reality.
     
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    The conservatives still run the House, and as anyone who does read the papers (or ever took Freshman Civics) knows, without the House nothing happens.

    Nice try though.
     
  15. EdwinWillers

    EdwinWillers Buh bye!

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    It helps to follow the conversation a tad rather than eavesdrop on a single post before commenting.

    But I agree - nice try.
     
  16. IzzyPop

    IzzyPop I wear my sunglasses at night...

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    Liberals haven't been in power in the US in decades. Fornthe umpteenth time, I would love to see an actual liberal get elected and then see ya'lls knickers really get twisted.
     
  17. The biggest problem is that neither side has the brass to do what's best for our nation, and the President is too afraid he'll look bad. Wouldn't want that legacy tarnished would we?

    The first President Bush raised taxes as a Republican President, and that's why Clinton gets all the credit for the economy. He commited political suicide by doing it, but he knew what was best for the nation.

    As a whole, no one wants to give up money and everyone wants something. Until people make a sacrifice, to include politicians, our nation is going to continue to tailspin. As the saying goes, you can't make an omelet without cracking a few eggs.
     
  18. EdwinWillers

    EdwinWillers Buh bye!

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    Yeah, yeah, yeah, and no one knows what socialism is either... we get it already.
     
  19. TScott

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    I agree, it would be nice if you would do that rather than take cheap shots at other posters-the converstaion is who is running things, and through congressional leadership and filibuster the Conservatives have been running things for the past 30 years. That's why everything is a mess.
     
  20. TScott

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    this^^