Common ancestor between chimps and humans

[JonFromMinnesota]

QV this thread please: How many forms of evolution, are there?

Yes. But this thread is about evolution of species (Specifically common ancestry). There is only one type of evolution of species.

 

[AV1611VET]

There is only one type of evolution of species.

What's it called?

 

[JonFromMinnesota]

What's it called?

Evolution by natural selection. Some have tried to say that micro is true but macro is not. That's demonstrably false.
Are you just trying to goad me into a debate? I already know your views, what would be the point?

 

[justlookinla]

He explained it to you right here:



You've demonstrated two things justlookinla.
1. You don't know how to use the scientific method. This part is obvious to every reader.
2. You don't know what evidence is, also obvious to every reader.

You are simply playing pigeon chess.

You've demonstrated that you don't understand the words "how" and "process". There was nothing in the post about the how and process.

And you've also demonstrated, by the worthless links you posted earlier, that you believe baseless claims are scientific evidence.

 

[Aman777]

What was presented to you is evidence for evolution. Address it.

False, since ALL of Evolution is discredited because the Theory FALSELY ASSUMES that Humans must have evolved from the common ancestor of Apes on Planet Earth.

God's Truth, which will stand when this world is on fire, tells us that Adam, the first Human, was made on another world (kosmos) long BEFORE the Big Bang of our Cosmos. This makes it totally Impossible that Humans evolved from creatures which were made BILLIONS of years after Humans were first made. Gen 2:4-7

The Scoffers of the last days before Jesus returns won't believe that Adam's world was totally destroyed in the Flood. Are you a Scoffer of the last days of this Earth?

 

[JonFromMinnesota]

False, since ALL of Evolution is discredited because the Theory FALSELY ASSUMES that Humans must have evolved from the common ancestor of Apes on Planet Earth.

Discredited by whom? Yourself? You're smarter than 99.9% of all scientists?
Humans are apes by the way. We're part of the hominidae family or "The great apes".

Lets take a look at the most compelling evidence that we share a common ancestor with chimpanzees.

I'm referencing Ken Miller as to avoid any bias you might claim. He's a Christian.

 

[Aman777]

Discredited by whom? Yourself? You're smarter than 99.9% of all scientists?]

God is, and He is smarter than all of the scientists who have ever lived or ever will live, put together.

Jon:>>Humans are apes by the way. We're part of the hominidae family or "The great apes".

Speak for yourself. I'm a Human (descendant of Adam) and we were FIRST made long before ANY other living creature. Gen 2:4-7 Only the believers in Apeism and some worshippers of man made science, would swallow such tripe. Do you think man's classification system is BETTER than God's? Such arrogance will not stand in the face of God's Truth. In the end ALL of your faith in man's "Science" will be discredited.

Jon:>>Lets take a look at the most compelling evidence that we share a common ancestor with chimpanzees.

False, since Adam was made BILLIONS of years BEFORE any other living creature. Your information is absolutely WRONG since you have confused Humans with the sons of God (prehistoric people), who evolved from the water. Gen 1:21 You don't seem to understand that ONLY Humans have the superior intelligence of God Gen 3:22 which MUST be inherited from another Human (descendant of Adam). Skipping this process is ANOTHER evidence of the False beliefs of the ToE.

Jon:>>I'm referencing Ken Miller as to avoid any bias you might claim. He's a Christian.

 

[JonFromMinnesota]

False, since Adam was made BILLIONS of years BEFORE any other living creature. Your information is absolutely WRONG since you have confused Humans with the sons of God (prehistoric people), who evolved from the water. Gen 1:21 You don't seem to understand that ONLY Humans have the superior intelligence of God Gen 3:22 which MUST be inherited from another Human (descendant of Adam). Skipping this process is ANOTHER evidence of the False beliefs of the ToE.

Scientific, verifiable, testable evidence beats out claims without evidence. Sorry.
Provide evidence or your claims are simply dismissed.

 

[whois]

Scientific, verifiable, testable evidence beats out claims without evidence. Sorry.
Provide evidence or your claims are simply dismissed.

how's this for "scientific, testable evidence"?:
The concept of natural selection as the foundation of evolutionary change has been largely superseded, mostly through the work of Motoo Kimura, Tomoko Ohta, and others, who have shown both theoretically and empirically that natural selection has little or no effect on the vast majority of the genomes of most living organisms.

Kimura, Ohta, Jukes, and Crow dropped a monkey wrench into the "engine" at the heart of the modern synthesis — natural selection — and then Gould and Lewontin finished the job with their famous paper on “the spandrels of San Marco and the Panglossian paradigm”. The rise of evo-devo over the past two decades has laid the groundwork for a completely new and empirically testable theory of macroevolution, a theory that is currently facilitating exponential progress in our understanding of how major evolutionary transitions happen. And iconoclasts like Lynn Margulis, Eva Jablonka, Marian Lamb, Mary Jane West-Eberhard, and David Sloan Wilson are rapidly overturning our understanding of how evolutionary change happens at all levels, and how it is inherited.
evolutionlist.blogspot.com/2009/11/modern-synthesis-is-dead-long-live.html

yes, i already know you will completely ignore it.

 

[brinny]

Common ancestor between chimps and humans

Shalom everybody,
I was reading on Smithsonian institutes page on human origins and I saw this picture. If you look to the lower right it says " the last common ancestor of humans and chimps. We do not yet have its remains."

i find this MOST interesting:

" the last common ancestor of humans and chimps. We do not yet have its remains."

what is this supposed to even MEAN?

 

[AV1611VET]

Common ancestor between chimps and humans


i find this MOST interesting:

" the last common ancestor of humans and chimps. We do not yet have its remains."

what is this supposed to even MEAN?

Probably that it's a missing link.

That's evolution for you.

Everything works like clockwork going backward, until suddenly you fall off a cliff.

 

[brinny]

Probably that it's a missing link.

That's evolution for you.

Everything works like clockwork going backward, until suddenly you fall off a cliff.

why would there be such a "claim" if there have been no "remains" found of said link (ancestor) mentioned.

Why claim there's a common "ancestor" if there's no basis to say there is?

 

[AV1611VET]

why would there be such a "claim" if there have been no "remains" found of said link (ancestor) mentioned.

Why claim there's a common "ancestor" if there's no basis to say there is?

As the saying goes:

Necessity is the mother of invention.

(Or is it: Desperate measures require desperate methods?)

 

[brinny]

As the saying goes:

Necessity is the mother of invention.

(Or is it: Desperate measures require desperate methods?)

That's EXACTLY how it appears.

This could be a parody on SNL.

 

[AV1611VET]

That's EXACTLY how it appears.

This could be a parody on SNL.

-- Love your avatar, by the way!

 

[brinny]

-- Love your avatar, by the way!

hahaaaaa thanks!!

 

[justlookinla]

Scientific, verifiable, testable evidence beats out claims without evidence. Sorry.
Provide evidence or your claims are simply dismissed.

Maybe they'll provide worthless links like you and then refuse to face their failures while claiming to have offered evidence.

 

[JonFromMinnesota]

Maybe they'll provide worthless links like you and then refuse to face their failures while claiming to have offered evidence.

Is this all you have to say? You sure love repeating it.
Still waiting for you to address the information

 

[Aman777]

Scientific, verifiable, testable evidence beats out claims without evidence. Sorry.
Provide evidence or your claims are simply dismissed.

Sure. Here is scientific, verifiable, testable, evidence which NO godless evolutionist has been able to refute:

1. We live in a Multiverse composed of 3 Heavens/universes. Gen 1:8 and Gen 2:4
2. The Big Bang of our Cosmos was on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4
3. The first Stars lit up on the 4th Day. Gen 1:16 This was confirmed by WMAP in February of THIS year and shows that it was 550 Million years AFTER the Big Bang
4. All living creatures came forth from the water on the 5th Day Gen 1:21 beginning some 3.77 Billion years ago
5. Today's Humans inherited the superior intelligence of Adam which is like God's intelligence Gen 3:22 It's the difference between dumb animals and Humans
6. ONLY Humans and God have the ability to SPEAK. NO animal can do this because it takes superior intelligence to speak.
7. History confirms that the first Humans (descendants of Adam) arrived on Planet Earth only 11k years ago http://www.fsmitha.com/h1/map00-fc.html
8. In less than 11k years mankind has gone from Caves to the Moon and back AFTER inheriting Adam's superior intelligence

All of these things are written in Genesis and AGREE with the latest discoveries of Science and History. NO man of 3k years ago could have POSSIBLY known these scientific discoveries, which are just now being confirmed. It's empirical PROOF of God, UNLESS you can explain to everyone HOW ancient men knew these things. I don't think you can.

I predict that you will hum and haw but will NOT be able to explain these Facts. Fool us and at least try, so that the newbies here can see the bankrupt nature of godless evolution. God has caught the believers in the False ToE in His Snare or Trap because today's all knowing scientists FORGOT about the Flood which totally destroyed Adam's world, where Humans had our origin. ll Peter 3:3-7

 

[JonFromMinnesota]

All of these things are written in Genesis and AGREE with the latest discoveries of Science and History.

Cite peer review publications that state history and science agree with Genesis.

Also the idea of a multiverse is infinite or finite universes. It doesn't give a specific number. You don't know what you're talking about.